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havent posted an argumental post for a while so here goes, as this is a topic that drives me insane...and yes i know this kind of thing has been posted before:

Every time a violent crime is committed by youths, such as the latest school shooting in Minnesota, the media always seems to conjure up some sort of 'videogames are linked to or cause violence' argument that shines us gamers in a negative light. I mean most of us know that the typical 'hardcore' gamer is a lonely, awkward kid who is weirdly quiet at school and races home to spend hours playing games by himself, door closed and locked.
Well I'm tired of this pathetic idiocy. Anyone who spends 5 minutes playing these games understands the fallacy of the media's portrail of gamers (us). While yes it may be true that some gamers DO spend a hell of alot of time playing games, the games themselves are hardly a solitary experience. Some of the most popular games today, such as WoW and CS, are entirely about the multiplayer experience. These games dont just encourage social gaming, they REQUIRE it.

Let's use WoW as an example. First of all, MMORPGs simply dont have a viable singleplayer game. They are instead typically built around quests, and most of which are simply flat-out impossible to complete by yourself. So, naturally all the best items are dropped by the toughest monsters. In fact, some of the toughest require raids of upto 30+ people (all of the highest levels), working together for HOURS to bring it down. Before you start, you must ask buddies for a hand or make new ones through chat channels.

Also, singleplayer games open themselves up for critisism if they dont have an online component. The criteria for games nowadays seems increasingly bound to having a singleplayer and a working multiplayer environment. The draw of these games is that the game is never the same twice as you're playing against REAL people, instead of that sometimes clumsy AI running into walls and shooting at invisible pigeons in the sky. I mean, I personally feel uncomfortable playing a singleplayer when i have the opportunity just a few clicks away to play any other game with, or against, another person on possibly the other side of the world.
Perhaps its just me when i find the whole loner stereotype to be offensive as ive met more people through gaming than in real life (and so have you even though you wont publicaly admit it, and will tag along with the insults when someone else throws one at me for saying that :P). Most gamers now PREFER playing with mates and making new ones for even more playability in their favourite game(s).

Sure there will always be solomly singleplayer games, but the way things are looking now, its only going to get more social. Wireless networks are simply going to be taking over. WoW has around 1.5million subscribers and still growing, and MMORPGs have encountered unpredicted popularity increases since their development. People like to play together. It doesnt take a psycology degree to know that. Its true for kids running around in the playground playing tag. Its true for wolf pups and lion cubs. Play is an activity often best when social.

As the world becomes more connected, gamers will be on the front line using these new technologies being developed all the time.

Humans are social creatures. So to the media:

'Why should gamers be any different???'
 
Totally agree, the media is anti-gaming and it pisses me right off. I may play games a load but often now multiplayer CS:S or soon BF2, however i prefer going out with my mates so the stereotype of a gamer is bloody annoying as well.

Arrrgh why can't we be left alone?!?!
 
Bravo, well said there.

Although I am fairly sure no one on this forum will disagree, so this is kind of redundant.

Curse the media.
 
well you do get people who strike up an argument for the sake of it :E
 
ĐynastҰ said:
well you do get people who strike up an argument for the sake of it :E

Lol, k then, ur totally rong, al us gam3rs rul3, cuz we sp34k 1337 like n all. Gamin is the only good thing in this w0rld, w00t. Lets neva c daylight an play solo games only coz we r0ck!

Sorry for the spam!
 
Visit the Politics section, Stern has made 3 threads on this in the past week.
 
Heh, agreed..


I don't see the problem with games... I don't know anyone my age who does..


And yes, the sterotype sucks..
I consider myself a gamer... but I'd still rather go out with mates than play online to be honest.
 
ríomhaire said:
Visit the Politics section, Stern has made 3 threads on this in the past week.
That's no suprise... :rolleyes:
 
yeah sorry im not surprised if its been done before, or recently....but why politics?
 
ĐynastҰ said:
yeah sorry im not surprised if its been done before, or recently....but why politics?
Because it's politics.
Edit:
I think they either belong in politics or general games, preferably politics.
 
ĐynastҰ said:
I mean most of us know that the typical gamer is a lonely, awkward kid who is weirdly quiet at school and races home to spend hours playing games by himself, door closed and locked.
I'm guessing this was sarcasm, but honestly you've just described most hardcore gamers right there.

There's no way that most gamers are loners though, since there will always be casual idiots that will buy games like NFS and Fifa 200X no matter what rating magazines give them, it's these people that make up the majority.

Perhaps its just me when i find the whole loner stereotype to be offensive as ive met more people through gaming than in real life (and so have you even though you wont publicaly admit it, and will tag along with the insults when someone else throws one at me for saying that :P).
"Meeting" someone online doesn't count as meeting at all in my opinion.
 
I played Duke Nukem 3D (which has an 18 certificate) when I was 8, but you don't see me wearing steel toe cap boots and kicking people, like the local yobs who go down and take drugs
 
StardogChampion said:
I'm guessing this was sarcasm, but honestly you've just described most hardcore gamers right there.

There's no way that most gamers are loners though, since there will always be casual idiots that will buy games like NFS and Fifa 200X no matter what rating magazines give them, it's these people that make up the majority.


"Meeting" someone online doesn't count as meeting at all in my opinion.

StardogChampion, youve just told me what i was talking about. About 'meeting someone online' not being the same as meeting people in general...of course its the same. Relationships, friendships and even MARRIAGE have been known to occur due to online gaming. Sure i cant pull out some evidence from my sleeve but i know its true.

and they arent necessarily 'casual idiots' when they buy old games and the new Fifa series. Just because they prefer old games, or simply dont have the hardware to run the latest games, doesnt make them idiots at all. If anything, classics are better than the latest games, just like movies. The first is always better because it's ORIGINAL. We should salute them if anything, for still being a gamer in the present era of continuous battles of 'what game has the best graphics and AI etc etc', which is all it REALLY comes down to in my opinion sometimes. Its not like the games nowadays are anything we havent seen before....with the exception of physics and rag doll deaths...
 
Well.... you have to admit you do get a lot of 'Geeks'. I'm not sure where to put myself. I play games because theya re fun and I go out because its fun. I would profer not to put myself in such stupid stereotypes. If I did need to explain myself very simply to a person I would descrb myself as a somewhat geek simply because thats the general stereotype of myself. This quickly clears up things if you want to continue talking to the person. If you get me...
 
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