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You're all a bunch of wierdo's, and if any of you butt in front of me while I'm waiting in line to purchase it, I'll hit you with my Collectors Edition Box. :E

Threads like this provide an opportunity to discuss the pros and cons of various games. It can be a good thing so long as narrow minded people stay away, we can all look at them honestly, and judge them on their own merits. :cheers:

I believe you're thinking of F.E.A.R.

Why can't members of a forum judge a game honestly based on it's own merits? I'll never understand this. Oh well, the game visually seems ok. What is it about the game that seems to have so many people talking about it?

Actuall I haven't seen it, perhaps I should check it out.

The flaw in that logic is this: In a lower res screen, the model will be comprised of less pixels and thus not any easier to hit as I see it, so it becomes moot. Essentially, it takes up the same amount of the screen, just has less detail. On a side note, is Half-Life 2 still using hit boxes?

Have we confirmed yet that it comes with an Alyx blow up doll? :devil:

It was enough for me to finally upgrade. :D

Ok, here's a question that directly relates to the main point of argument at hand: Does any one here think that unified lighting will NOT be the way it is done for all 3D games at some point in the future? I believe that it will be the norm at some point, and the only thing that will slow...

So far the discussion seems to be this, and correct me if I'm wrong: -Source has all the stuff except unified lighting(ul) Now this is what is confusing me, the argument that ul is coming in source is speculation at this point as I've seen no evidence to support this, none. However, there is...

Hmmm, never heard of that one. Learn something every day I guess. :D

Hey, isn't that Carmack quote from the Legacy vid? I'll have to dig that out and watch it.

So you think that the Unreal 3 engine won't play on the average pc of the time that it comes out? That's speculationas as far as I can tell, and I'll wait and see I guess. But, thus far the Unreal engine has been quite good and I see no reason to conclude that they will suddenly screw it all up...

Heh, I bought mine in December specifically for these 2 games. It's been hard waiting. :angry: I've been making due with UT2004se and learning how to mod. On a side note, If anyone is interested in learning to mod for games, I highly recomend the UT2004 dvd version for the absolutely amazing...

Good question. From what I understand, that's the kind of thing that the creator, John Carmack, likes so that what he makes. Keep in mind that Doom 3 is far more than just the game, it's also a showcase for the engine that game developers can license for big bucks. Remember Half Life was created...

I'd like to add that the argument that they look like plastic is a straw man argument anyways, the discussion is about the lighting model. To address the "plastic" thing, I'm sure with right combination of diffuse and specular maps, almost any material should be able to be quite reasonably...