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oh c'mon, no one's saying that stuff about faces of death except you. wouldn't it be great to be able to stab through boxes, or smash through a peice of furniture with a fork lift and drive it around to hit something with it? not being able to penetrate an object under lots of various...

Remember that half-life was the first game to show a body fly apart into a giant splat of gore, blood, and leg bones on the floor. after a round was over with the gluon gun, the walls, floor and ceiling were completely covered with blood splatters and body parts.

Here's the big question though. When will games start to have deformable models? Remember in the video when the strider skewers the guy on the street? Although the animation is good, the effect is cheezy because they obviously don't keep going with physics since they didn't have any physics way...

yeah but from a game server admin's point of view it's seriously annoying. most of the stuff on the hl ded server mailing list is gripes about the way valve is leaving admins out the cold about whatever the lastest thing is.

Valve is notorious for not updating their web pages and news sections. Apparently that's still true concerning the 'updates' log in steam. Valve is usually a love/hate type of company. You love them for the products they put out, but hate them for their lack of consistency on the little things...

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nevermind, found it: http://gamemag***/?act=showart&id=5309

anyone manage to snag these before they left those sites?

yeah filerush.com has them all towards the bottom.

*cough* or get it here. http://www.filerush.com/torrents/hl2-kleiners_lab.exe.torrent

yeah i've got a fileplanet account also. for the most part i've switched to bit torrent as my main source now though, as it's free and usually faster once there's a nice amount of seeds. so far there's been 432 downloads from my site, with 86 going, and more than 60 seeds... all for the kleiner...

why would someone upload their huge cache file, when multiple people have already posted links to the kleiner video for us?

filerush.com has 3 of our own seeders, 24/7. :) although not really worth starting over if you already jumped on the original torrent..

If someone who has it going would like to be more specific, or pm me with that, i can host it on filerush.com for everyone else here... it's been years since I last hex edited a file.

For those interested, here's the filerush.com bit torrent download link: http://www.filerush.com/torrents/hl2-docks.exe.torrent

In case anyone's having problems, you can get it via bit torrent here. My steam update is taking forever. http://www.filerush.com/torrents/hl2-g-man.exe.torrent