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my friend had a 4200 and bought a sapphire 9500 non pro, and it's smoking that 4200, very noticeable improvements, he loves it

somebody needs to email gabe about this, this is important stuff, and i don't think we're interperating it exactly right

i definitely agree that some games are art. what do you call those models and textures? what do you call that story with the characters? it's the same way with movies, only interactive of course, as with movies, there are some games out there just to cash in and shouldn't be...

what i like is that a major news organization is actually covering a game as a real media product in the past, all news organizations have only focused on the controversy they bring (violence and sex) or they treat them as expensive toys i'm happy to know they're getting the respect and...

he's not saying it, the offical steam site seems to point to this

sorry, didn't see where you said you reformatted also check and make sure your power extension is set up the way i described: middle molex connected to the PSU, end molex plugged into the HDD

another thing i thought of, sometimes these cards are picky, now, the power extension that comes off the card, do you have the middle one plugged into the power supply molex and the one on the end plugged into the hdd? i've heard of problems if it isn't set up that way, the way it says to

make sure it's spinning alright and such, test it with your finger to make sure there's no resistance and yeah, i would recommend at LEAST a 350 watt, quality psu, you can buy a poor quality 450watt and it could do this stuff to you, so around a 350-400 watt quality should do the trick...

if the chances do look likely, it would still give plenty of time to modify a high yield hydrogen bomb to detonate near the thing remember, it's only 1km big, if it detonates very close to it, the thing disintegrates into pieces small enough to burn up in the atmosphere, if it hits near it...

wrong Halo is not just a port, they rewrote alot of the engine as the xbox version was completely optimized for the geforce 3 ti in the xbox, Halo does take advantage of directx 9 shaders Tomb Raider does use alot of directx 9 features, pixel shader 2.0 being one of them, and the main one...

and remember, everytime somebody says that, a puppy is molested :afro: don't use cliches :cool:

well, what are your difficulties, perhaps we could help you

i used to be an nvidia fan with my 4600, but ATI has really deserved my respect with my 9800 Pro :afro:

we'll be getting an HL2 benchy before it's released, and this should be coming soon, because the release is fast approaching

3dmark03 is nothing but a bench to see your how badass your vid card is, and you can even do it truthfully with ATI! :cheers: 2001 is a much better bench, it gauges your entire system performance,not just the vid card. now if only they'd come up with a directx 9 bench like 2001

i place no faith in 3dmark2003 at all, not with nvidia least of all. the only thing i use it for is to make sure my 9800 Pro is running right and something's not fooked up in it i place some amount of faith in 2001, as it gauges your entire system and not just your card, but i don't freak...

faster in directx 8 games, and only by a small margin all evidence in dx 9 points to ATI taking the lead by quite a bit you used Gabe in the same context as the ATI ceo, therefore implying that you equated them in that post

... we are talking ingame here... at least John Carmack and Gabe Newell are, and the TROAD and HALO benches are ingame, in engine benchmarks, they aren't like 3dmark2003

yeah, well, according to this pixel shader 2.0 information coming from John Carmack, Gabe Newell, and at least 2 (could be 3) articles/benches, it's not a handful of frames, it's nvidia really letting down on the thing and i wouldn't trust ANY tests or benches with Nvidia in them, because...