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And hey, DefaultUserName, he does have a great grasp of history, I should know, he's my brother ; ) We're both educated chaps. And he is right in saying...

Luckily the beta has no real spoilers, and even the weapons are known, pre-existing ones. There are only two small spoilers I've spotted from scanning the maps, no big storyline stuff... I think people really SHOULD discuss the implications and things like features, for instance the weird OGL...

This is foolishness. All you have to do is see if Zone Alarm asks permission... Does it? No. Do not speculate, investigate.

*sigh... This is depressing indeed.

Kamakiri I adore your avatar.

Agreed Dimitri, interesting too. I'm not wholly suprised, however, for instance, there seems to be a lot of AI missing for various enemies, even KNOWN enemies!

Yep rootbin.

/agree /nod :edit: To this thread.

offtopic* 42 it is :) Douglas Adams rocked /offtopic*

What?

So has it started? /Me confused. All I hear is Linkin Park's corporate "rocking" :) Can someone post a synopsis of the interview afterwards too? Much thanks.

Mods? This is stupidity kiddo.

No, stryyder, you're wrong. The Feds will have nothing to say about its release, lol :) Havok will not sue valve, don't you know anything about marketing? Huge numbers of people would turn against Havok. Plus, the Valve Havok code is heavily modified by VALVE. You guys need to do your...

It's fake, you guys have been had. Sorry. Keep dreaming.

How about no, headcrab. If you own HL/CS etc. you won't have to pay for it, you can, however, pay a subscription to play any and all valve products, say if you don't own any. Do a search first!

Thop, he's not. I knew this immediately as they were the first ones who posted this. On the Steam forums, from there they spread it to IRC, and from there it spread to torrent sites, nforce, and so on. They did NOT cover their tracks well at all, goes to show you how in the end, an ego always...

Agreed PhatBoyz.

You gotta love all the trolls that have shown up with this news. Grow up people, and gain some intelligence.

You, sir, are correct, thank you for this post.

They screwed you over by holding back something that isn't finished? Even IF it is steam? The late notice on the delay sucked sure, but it was a last minute decision that steam couldn't handle it.