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based on that statement, i assume that you are new to team fortress.

Exactly. Thats why I fail to see why there is so much arguing! If you are excited about TF2, Be excited! If dissappointed, well remember TF2 is not replacing TFC. These people are acting like TFC is going to be deleted from their computer once TF2 comes out. AND there is Fortress Forever, which...

Christ its going to be a new game. To me, it looks like they are trying to make what TFC was originally meant to be. Removing 'everything skill related' was what? conc jumping and bunny hopping? I bet there are going to be some new exploits in TF2. And how can you say that they have no clue how...

10 day old news but I didn't see any topic about it. Their site is back up and they have opened a section devoted to beta tester screen shots. Check 'em out. http://www.fortress-forever.com/

I'm actually very comfortable with the change. I am very much looking forward to the idea of TF2. Change is good. People can go play TFC or FF if they are not satisfied with the outcome of the game.

What is a sapper? P.S. very sad about conc removal... But I guess that's what Fortress Forever is there for.

ARGH i want tf2 so hard. good post. good read. i cant wait til i can see heavys punching various enemies.

All about a game you have never played. I'm sure if you have thought about it, they have too. I bet they have worked something out so that the medics aren't overpowered. Even if it turns out that way, its something they can fix after release. I'm guessing a few months after release, everything...

i cant believe nades have been removed. well im sure theyll make up for it with other gameplay features... they better.

i hate consoles

downloading now. very much looking forward to it

Enough with Norris. Cool trailer. I never played the original but it looks like it has a nice TFC fast and ridiculous gameplay feeling to it. Cant wait to play.

I doubt its going to be 'just co-op' with a few extra features. At least it better not be because they're hyping it up to be something truly amazing. Cool looking enemy though: http://www.arkane-studios.com/en/the-crossing.php

They'ren't going to release it with only the two videos released now. So you they aren't 'misleading' you by calling it TF2. You can decide by yourself when later content is released. But whether you like it or not it is a sequel. "something following something else: something that happens after...

I have a wii and this is emensly exiting. the again its not very surprising. i would like to see valve make a wii game (using the pointing capabilities of course) I want valve to make an online wii game. i bet left4dead would be great online on the wii.. or tf2. just not cs. im tired of cs.

will buy. i'm quite interested to see what else will be produced with the money he earns.

was this just in the uk pcgamer? no scans fo shiz. please?

its those damn consoles *shakes fist* they could atleast release some more eye candy! (tf2 preferably)

;( well i would rather have a complete game later than an incomplete one now.

Did they eventually just come back?