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I'm actually getting pretty annoyed at publishers like EA taking the piss with the UK and not allowing their games to be available here :(

This is true. Not only that, but the last map, and the last sections in the last maps are waay harder, it's gonna be fun :)

I think it's going to be a long time or only just possible they'll release more boss infected, however, the guns side is quite possible. After playing through all weapons except the sniper rifle, my friend whored that one. I can honestly say, they're so well balance, they're all about the same...

You're definitely looking more towards a single player map in terms of work involved rather than a multiplayer map. I would suspect you'd have to add entities to certain map geometry to say where the AID can and can't do things. All in, i'd say that the work level is cut down a bit by the AID...

Re: the cinematics, without confirming with Valve, there were none in the campaigns i played, on top of that, valve doesn't do cinematics, they do in game events in engine to keep suspense, eg. the dead air campaigns plane crash at the start. The intro is new to valve as well, guess we're gonna...

Thanks guys, you saved me a lot of typing ;) As for the maps, as has more or less already been said, the mapper "merely" needs to do geometry, spawn, end and safe points. The rest *is* done by the AI director. Also please note i'm no mapper ;) As for NS2, it's looking real nice, but it's a...

They're unlikely to carry new enemies, weapons, there is a possibility, but it's gonna be rare. Maps generally, look for plenty of user made packs, they are comparatively easy to make as it's just geometry and the AI director does the rest.

You won't regret it Gorgon, it's a blast to play.

Hmm, well we can certainly mark 5 mins of that "linear" footage to the intro. Looks like maybe an outro was submitted, but i'm not sure why, that would kind of cap the game. I guess it could include things like the escape parts at the end of each campaign as well.

Interesting picture, never seen it before, looks great. Don't forget the physics based animation that the L4D source engine update adds as well (realistic swaying pony tail and jiggling belly on the boomer)

Yeah, they've always said that the source engine is constantly being updated and re-written so it's never the same engine people think it is. It's nothing like the engine they released with HL2 all those years ago.

What?! I've not heard of, or seen any cinematics at all.

That's right hool, physics based animation is a new tech that was added to the L4D version of the source engine.

Hmm, come to think of it, i can't think of specifics for the DOF in game, but it *is* in engine ;)

Yup; The game looks very close to this, i've played it. DOF and motion blur are already real time in TF2 and DOD:S

There are some very uneducated assumptions being made here, specifically comments made by watchtower and one of pvtryans comments. All the effects are able to be done and are actually done in game, period. They will undoubtedly be using best quality versions of everything, as others have said...

It was in engine footage. The post processing effects are also ingame.

The game does look like that. liPillON Characters don't die in the game, it's a movie style co-op game. It doesn't have cinematics during the game at all.

The HD version on steam looks even better than the gamespot streaming version.

That's amazing! Quality video, i've played the game already but i'm so looking forward to it now. You can see the sections that were used for the TV spots. Very cool, i'm impressed :cool: