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I got to the comments about Steam. They are stupid and have no base in reality.
He's tallking about the big boys, like his company and Epic. They're never going to go with Steam.His comments that Steam won't be successful because it's branded with Valve and companies won't take their games to Steam is completely wrong and unfounded. The past week showed us otherwise , and more 3rd party big name games are coming. So is about the the conflict of Valve putting a rival FPS on steam. Clearly , this has not been an issue with Sin , Dark Messiah and the recent COD games.
I think he's right about that. He says there isn't as much anticipation of episodes being released, compared to full games. They're treated like expansion packs instead of proper games, and I have to agree. I haven't bought Ep1.The rumor he heard about Valve and Ritual being unhappy about the sale figures of the first episode - Well , could be. Valve mentioned more than once that after all the Eps are out they will sit down and evaluate.
I don't think they're holding their horses, since he was talking about Trident (sp?). But that fell through because of pricing.Valve is trying to do something new, rather than what 3D Realms are doing. Someone has to start the whole thing off, and at the moment that's Valve. The way I'm seeing it is 3D Realms holding their horses until online distribution/Episodic content is in full swing before they take any risks. If that’s the case, and it most certainly looks it, they can just shut the **** up and go sit in the corner before they make any bullshit unfounded comments.
The next HL-based game I buy will have to be called Half-life 3, or have some major gameplay/graphic enhancements for me to buy it.
You are looking at it the wrong way. The Episodes are there primarily because of gameplay. The gameplay in Episode 1 is leaps and bounds ahead of pretty much every shooter on the market, as they release feedback is garnered and taken on board for the next release.
Sure, it is tricky, but it works. You are getting smaller games, but good games, in a small time span. I find it difficult to pinpoint the problem about this approach when people raise complaints about this. It's cheap, it's very, very good and you aren't waiting a long time.
And there's a problem?
Truth.Valve ought to spin Steam off as separate company anyway.
"Valve ought to spin Steam off as separate company anyway"
Why is that?
Yes with HL2 you got a brand new game, brand new world, brand new engine, , online multiplayer,and you could expect a shitload of mods.
With Ep you pretty much literally got a high quality mappack that lasted 1/3 of hl2, and yet still cost 20,- which is not 1/3 of 50,-, and the gameplay is 2 years old allready, it has hardly anything new over hl2. While if they made a whole game like hl3 it would probably have been a lot more original.
Episodes are noth worth the bang for your buck, the time between them is to long to appreciate a good cliffhanger, episodic content is simply inferior to whole games in every possible way.
Yes with HL2 you got a brand new game, brand new world, brand new engine, , online multiplayer,and you could expect a shitload of mods.
With Ep you pretty much literally got a high quality mappack that lasted 1/3 of hl2, and yet still cost 20,- which is not 1/3 of 50,-, and the gameplay is 2 years old allready, it has hardly anything new over hl2.
I've yet to finish episode 1 ..despite having it for a few months ..I'm at the part where you need to have your flashlight on at all times ..just seemed kinda gimicky
No, it isn't leaps and bound ahead of HL2, but it's pretty much ahead of every other game. The idea is for people to play things in smaller gaps, without having to wait. It is simply bringing content to players faster. You can take more risks with gameplay, gather feedback and construct the next piece based on reactions - all in a smaller time period. HL3 will come eventually, at the moment were getting something and were getting it sooner.
So you are basically pissing into the wind.
No, it isn't leaps and bound ahead of HL2, but it's pretty much ahead of every other game.
You're kidding me right? Its the same exact gameplay as playing through the last couple levels of HL2. Yeah, one new enemy that runs at you with a grenade. A couple new puzzles. Woo. Alright. Valve just revolutionized the FPS genre. It's fun the first time or so, but don't make it into something its not.
I agree with Samon. Ep1 is so much better than anything we saw this year in fps\action games it's not even funny.
I wish people would stop complian about length. Episodes are ~6 hours long , I finished Prey under 8 hours. 40$ more for plus-minus the same gameplay time is sad. Not to mention , the first 5 minutes of Ep1 are far better and enjoyable than all Prey was for me.
He's tallking about the big boys, like his company and Epic. They're never going to go with Steam.
You can't exactly talk considering you haven't even finished it. :|
No, I finally did![]()
No it does not make a differance, just like the fact that big rigs is a shittier game then 50cents bulletproof, does not make bulletproof any better.And yes other supposedly full-length games do make a difference. The idea of you saying that it doesn't is completely absurd. Episode 1 is £12, or $20, for truly quality gaming in a short period, whereas I might pay for something with even less length for what, £40/$50.
Don't try and tell me there isn't a difference, because there damn well is.
No it does not make a differance, just like the fact that big rigs is a shittier game then 50cents bulletproof, does not make bulletproof any better.
So does the fact that other games, made by other companies have less playtime not make a differance in this case. Why would you want valve to go the same way, just because others do it too.
Episode 1 gave you less playtime for your money then hl2, + it did not have all the extra's hl2 did. Fact is if you did not support episodes they would focus on making one big sequel which would give you more bang for your buck. Other games have nothing to do with this.
I am having a really hard time understanding Gray Fox's argument. Are you trying to compare full games to episodes? They are completely different, and intended to be so. The price of 3 episodes = the price of one full game + the gameplay additions of 3 full games and a full length storyline and probably longer than average game length.
I know they are intended to be smaller, but I disagree that you know what to expect, the length of an EP can vary just as much as full length games.Salmon said:Wait, what? The Episodes are intended to be smaller, and as such are cheaper and are not touted as full length games. Were not talking about 'two shit games', were talking about an entirely different branch of game development. You are obviously going to expect more 'bang for your buck' if you purchase full-length games because you have just shelled out £40.
The point is if you purchase EP1 for £12/$20, you know what you are getting. Whereas when you spend £40 you could just end up with a small, 6 hour game with no multiplayer and some pretty crap gaming to boot. The Episodes focus on gameplay, feedback, and something on a short term basis for gamers to play.