75 Years Since the Ukrainian Genocide

[MJ12]

Thought I'd make a thread on it because there are a lot of people who didn't know it happened, and it's the 75 year anniversary.

The Ukrainian Genocide Famine (Holodomor)
is one of the least known tragedies of the 20th century...

At the height of the Genocide Ukrainians were dying at a rate of 25,000 per day.

Nearly 1 in 4 rural Ukrainians perished as a direct result.

The Soviet Union dumped 1.7 million tons of grain on Western markets during the Genocide.
Nearly a fifth of a ton of grain was exported for each person who died of starvation.

Over 3,000,000 children born between 1932-1933 died of starvation.

The US Congress 1988 Commission on the Ukraine Famine concluded:
"Joseph Stalin and those around him committed genocide against Ukrainians in 1932-1933".

There were over 10,000,000 victims of
the Ukrainian Genocide of 1932-1933

Stalin ordered that all private farms would have to be collectivized.
By the summer of 1932, 69.5% of all
Ukrainian farm families and 80% of all farm land had been forcibly collectivized.

collectivization and to assign procurement quotas to each Soviet republic.
During the collectivization process, Ukrainian farmers resisted vigorously, often violently, especially when the GPU (Soviet secret police) and militia
forced them to turn their land over to the government. Thousands of farmers were killed and millions more were deported to Siberia to be replaced by
more trustworthy workers.

So even farmers trying to eat their own crops were killed. Starvation was essentially used as a weapon. I also read that there was a lot of cannibalism as a result of this.
There are some pretty disturbing pictures from The Holodomor. They are difficult to find though.

 

[Raziaar]

Ugh, that's terrible!

I'm sure god had a plan for them...

 

[Baserape>]

I have no problem with cannibalism.

 

[VirusType2]

Throughout my education, this was never even mentioned. (Or maybe I just don't remember.)

Never heard of it. Wow what the ****. Genocide is absolutely ****ed up.

 

[nurizeko]

Communism is a good idea.



:angel:

 

[MJ12]

 

[nurizeko]

Stalin was a good idea.

:angel:

 

[MJ12]

Stalin was a good idea.

:angel:

Very.

 

[<RJMC>]

comunist will say thats theyr punishment to no contributing to the people

 

[CyberPitz]

It's been that long already?

Time for another one, I guess.

 

[Dog--]

I don't understand how people die of starvation.. There are tons of bugs and other plants and shit you could eat, or y'know, you could leave and go somewhere else. I wouldn't care if I had a life somewhere, if I was dying of starvation I'd just leave and find food.. **** it

 

[Eejit]

Over 3,000,000 children born between 1932-1933 died of starvation.

It's already happening pitzy.

7 million infants die of malnutrition each year, and 1 billion of the world's population is malnurished.

 

[CyberPitz]

It's already happening pitzy.

7 million infants die of malnutrition each year, and 1 billion of the world's population is malnurished.

Looks like I'm never going hungry. YES!

 

[MJ12]

I don't understand how people die of starvation.. There are tons of bugs and other plants and shit you could eat, or y'know, you could leave and go somewhere else. I wouldn't care if I had a life somewhere, if I was dying of starvation I'd just leave and find food.. **** it

Dog, it's not that simple, 10,000,000 people can't just eat bugs and berries in the woods and expect to survive.
And "leaving" to go somewhere else doesn't nessisarily work either, especially when you are poor, and have a family to feed. So what? You move to somewhere else, become homeless from lack of money, and starve?

Even if moving, finding a job, and getting food were that simple, we are not talking one person, or even one family, we're talking 10,000, 000 people.

 

[highlander]

Wow :|

 

[Hazard.Squared]

Horrible, I've never heard of it though, blame public education

 

[Ennui]

I've heard of this but only because I took Russian History.

This isn't even remotely the most evil shit Stalin ever did.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Damn, I'd heard of this by name but never what actually happened. Amazing that this accounts for nearly twice as many deaths as in the Holocaust (although not the war of course) and yet it's so much lesser known.

What's that famous quote? "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic."

 

[Pivovar]

Amazing that this accounts for nearly twice as many deaths as in the Holocaust (although not the war of course) and yet it's so much lesser known.

Well, mostly cause Stalin covered the Holodomor up, but Hitler was just like "hay guyz looks what i did, im awesome aren't i?"

 

[nurizeko]

Dog, it's not that simple, 10,000,000 people can't just eat bugs and berries in the woods and expect to survive.
And "leaving" to go somewhere else doesn't nessisarily work either, especially when you are poor, and have a family to feed. So what? You move to somewhere else, become homeless from lack of money, and starve?

Even if moving, finding a job, and getting food were that simple, we are not talking one person, or even one family, we're talking 10,000, 000 people.

Not to mention that human history has long proven that when peoples move to better greener pastures, the ones already there just kill the new comers.

 

[VirusType2]

or the other way around

 

[unozero]

Damn, I'd heard of this by name but never what actually happened. Amazing that this accounts for nearly twice as many deaths as in the Holocaust (although not the war of course) and yet it's so much lesser known.

What's that famous quote? "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic."

maybe if the Ukrainians open up a few Museums it will be talked about more.

 

[Kula Meenur]

I don't understand how people die of starvation.. There are tons of bugs and other plants and shit you could eat, or y'know, you could leave and go somewhere else. I wouldn't care if I had a life somewhere, if I was dying of starvation I'd just leave and find food.. **** it

You best be joking.


Good on ya for making a thread ZT. Grandparents used to retell that over and over.

 

[MJ12]

Oh, and another thing Dog, I am sure they ate bugs and berries, because they went as far as to eat their dead. So the definately tried to survive, but they still did not.

 

[CrazyHarij]

I don't understand how people die of starvation.. There are tons of bugs and other plants and shit you could eat, or y'know, you could leave and go somewhere else. I wouldn't care if I had a life somewhere, if I was dying of starvation I'd just leave and find food.. **** it

ok you are officially a ****ing idiot, what the ****

 

[NeptuneUK]

I don't understand how people die of starvation.. There are tons of bugs and other plants and shit you could eat, or y'know, you could leave and go somewhere else. I wouldn't care if I had a life somewhere, if I was dying of starvation I'd just leave and find food.. **** it

 

[Some_God]

My grandmother lived through it and she still cried when Stalin died. It wasn't till later that she found out it was all his fault.

 

[nurizeko]

I've heard of this but only because I took Russian History.

This isn't even remotely the most evil shit Stalin ever did.

Thats the most depressing thing, the Ukranian genocide alone is enough to break weaker hearts and it was just another day in Stalinist USSR.

 

[Adabiviak]

I never knew about that myself.

 

[Dog--]

You best be joking.


Good on ya for making a thread ZT. Grandparents used to retell that over and over.

Oh, and another thing Dog, I am sure they ate bugs and berries, because they went as far as to eat their dead. So the definately tried to survive, but they still did not.

ok you are officially a ****ing idiot, what the ****

I can't help but feel some of you have ill feelings towards me.. hmm..

 

[unozero]

Thats the most depressing thing, the Ukranian genocide alone is enough to break weaker hearts and it was just another day in Stalinist USSR.

but lesb....I mean Communism!!!

 

[Kula Meenur]

I can't help but feel some of you have ill feelings towards me.. hmm..

Nah mate, but what you said got my haclkles up enough :|