8800GTS and My New Build

[DevgruSeal]

I'm planning out my next custom computer build, and have been doing research on some hardware to put in it.

I knew that I didn't want to start narrowing it down too soon, because new hardware would come out or be announced that would mess up my plans. It indeed happened.

However, it's starting to get closer to release of Episode 2, and possibly Crysis, so I've started to plan it out a bit more, now.

Now, when it comes to 8800GTS vs GTX, I'm probably going with the GTS.
That way I can save the money to put towards the new 9800 series, provided the benchmarks come back good.

If the money isn't worth the 9800 judging by benchmarks and reviews, I'll just buy another 8800GTS and put it to use in SLi.

My requirements are a (somewhat future proof'd) computer that will be able to handle current as well new (DX10) games, with highest settings at 1280x1024 resolution at a good framerate (At least 60FPS Avg.)

I'm also interested in getting quad core, but they're not being taken advantage of quite yet, at least not enough to justify the cost.

So, whatchu think of my plans? Gimme your opinions, and suggestions for hardware to power my gaming machine. Be nice with hardware per money. I'm not on a tight budget, but the sky isn't the limit either. I also have hard-drives to buy for my current computer, as it'll become a server for me and friends/family.

As for hard-drives, I was thinking a Raptor X 150GB 10,000RPM drive for my OS and games. I have a 250GB I can use for storage. The 74GB Raptors are too small.

If alls well, let me know which vendor I should go with (XFX, eVGA, PNY, etc), and how much video memory for the video card.

As a summary, here's what I've thought about using so far in my computer. The rest are still undecided, and I may not have listed them. I'm open to suggestions on any hardware parts, though. I prefer nVidia cards for now, as ATi doesn't have any good competitors.

Video Card: 8800GTS, and upgrading to 9800 if they're good, or 8800GTS-SLi if they're not.
Hard-Drive(s): Raptor X 150GB 16MB Cache @ 10,000RPM SATA 150
Caviar SE 250GB 16MB Cache @ 7200RPM SATA
Processor: Undecided, but I'm leaning towards a powerful Core 2 Duo. Quad cores are fair game, if they're worth it.

 

[The Brick]

Well the source engine will support multicore soon, so if you play sourcegames a lot, you can't go wrong with the quad.

Also, there's no point in getting a raptor drive unless you feel like wasting money. The performance gain vs a good 7200rpm drive are barely measurable, let alone noticeable if you don't know any better.

You won't run Crysis with avg 60fps with an 8800 (gtx or gts), so forget about that. The gts (320) is a good deal.

You'll HAVE to get a 680i mainboard if you want to keep SLI an option. None of the Intel chipsets support SLI, only crossfire.

 

[Nabobalis]

What kind of budget?

About hard drive choice, I remember someone saying that there is a drive close to the speed of the Raptor but is about 500GB. I will need to re look that first.

The GTS will do you for now as if Nvidia do release the 9XXX series at Christmas you could just upgrade. If you want good DX 10 performance you will not get it from any graphic cards out now.

But a Q6600 with a P35 mobo would be good unless you want to wait until Christmas and get Intel/AMD new CPU and Intel X38 chipset.

 

[DevgruSeal]

Yeahh, that's what I was afraid of. I would love to have one of the Quad cores with the Intel x38 chipset, but as it stands, I probably won't have enough cash to shell out for the Quads taking advantage of the x38.

Budget? I'd say under $2500-$2800. I'm not fully sure on that quite yet.

So I take it the 8800gtx/gts is too weak for running Crysis on high, hence not being able to get an average FPS over 60?

 

[Nabobalis]

Yeahh, that's what I was afraid of. I would love to have one of the Quad cores with the Intel x38 chipset, but as it stands, I probably won't have enough cash to shell out for the Quads taking advantage of the x38.

Budget? I'd say under $2500-$2800. I'm not fully sure on that quite yet.

So I take it the 8800gtx/gts is too weak for running Crysis on high, hence not being able to get an average FPS over 60?

Well will have to see when the demo/game comes out but I believe some people said a core 2 and a 8800GTX will run it high fine but they didn't state the resolution I believe.

The thing with the X38 is the wait and it stills someway off.

Plus that's allot of budget for what you want. Let me cook something up on newegg.

P.S do you need keyboard/monitor/mouse/OS/speakers/etc?

P.S.S Sli is not worth it

 

[Gray Fox]

SLI is unnecessary money waste. Forget about it, get yourself a Quad.
Also buy a cheap >100,- dx9 card now and buy a an dx10 card in June, when the new ATI also comes out, Nvidia will at least lower it's price because of that.

You also might want to invest in a better monitor, a 5:4 scale is pretty shitty for playing games. I would get a 20" widescreen, you can get a good sceptre monitor for under 200,-. Well worth it, I would take it over a Quad.


Also seeing as DX10 is supposed to primarily be more efficient, the current dx10 cards should run true dx10 games even better then they do on dx9, unless off course the gain in efficiency is only when using fancy new effects.

 

[Nabobalis]

Also seeing as DX10 is supposed to primarily be more efficient, the current dx10 cards should run true dx10 games even better then they do on dx9, unless off course the gain in efficiency is only when using fancy new effects.

Well it doesn't seem that way, so far real DX 10 performance is poor, unless the drivers improve dramatically and Vista becomes a bit better for performance.

I say get a 8800GTS, very good DX 9 performance and right now, that is what matters. Especially if you want some future proof.

 

[DevgruSeal]

Yea, that sounds like a good idea. I can still run Crysis on DX9 with high settings since I'll have plenty of processing power, too

I don't really like widescreens to be honest. Then again, that may be because when I've used widescreens they're at a pretty weird resolution, 1490 by something. I like having plenty of vertical space. Taking a look at some Sceptre's on Newegg, they're at 1680x1050, which I wouldn't mind, as it has plenty of vertical space (1050vert instead of 1024vert).

@Nabobalis:
At the moment I have a 19" NEC monitor which I just bought a few months ago to replace an older 17" Acer. I'm converting my current computer to a server, but because this monitor has two inputs and the ability to switch between those two inputs, I'm not sure that I'll need a second monitor.

But what the crap, it could always come in handy, so sure. So long as it has plenty of pixel real estate.

OS will be Vista (Ugh, but to make the DX10 jump..), a keyboard yes, mouse no, speakers no.

Another thing I don't know about yet either is Ultimate or Home Premium. Some of the features in Ultimate could potentially be used. Such as the Remote Access, and Complete PC backup.

Actually, I just read a bit further into that, and it has scheduled/network backup features, and the complete PC backup is just making an image of your drive, which I can do manually, should I need to do so.

And the remote access I could use VNC for.

For my server, I'm planning on using Windows Home Server, which also aids in scheduled and network backups.

So actually what I think I'll do for the Operating System would be to take XP with me to the new build, I suppose, and wait until DX10 traffic starts to pick up. That way by, as you said June, hopefully more Vista kinks will be fixed, and I can keep my moneys

OEM parts/software are fine by the way. It's cheaper, and I usually don't need manuals/support, since I'm tech savvy/geeky and have the Internets :E

 

[Nabobalis]

Some thing like this? $2,302.847 before rebates. Includes everything I believe. Edit: update to remove monitor mouse and sound card.

Hopefully the link works, never used newegg before.

Also a few things I wanted to change but I could not find on newegg.

Edit once again. My computer. With UK prices at the time.

Intel Core 2 Quad-Core Q6600 ?217.85
Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (1GB*2) *2. ?169.18
Asus P5K Deluxe ?136.29
8800GTX ?316.06
500 Gb Western Digital ?62.22
620W Corsair HX ?88.11
Antec P182 ?80.95
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme ?46.99
120mm Sharkoon *3 ?20.70
Pioneer DVR-212BK ?25.84
Mitsumi FA404M ?14.68
Logitech G11 ?35.19
Logitech G5 ?41.94
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64Bit ?112.74

Was a total of ~?1300 so about $2600

 

[DevgruSeal]

I think you'll have add it to the Public Wish List. The link just takes me to a blank template.

 

[Nabobalis]

I think you'll have add it to the Public Wish List. The link just takes me to a blank template.

Stupid newegg, I make the list Shared but still nothing on the public lists. Anyway the list is pretty much the same as mine but without the mouse,fans, slightly different memory and different heat sink.

Edit: Also a different DVD drive and card reader. That should be it.

 

[DevgruSeal]

Ok, here's what I've taken from that.

I changed a few things to things I have or don't need, or saw something I liked better. I'd also like to know how good of a performance beast the Seagate 7200.10 320GB drive is, or if there is a better gaming drive for around its price. Also, how does it rate against the WD Caviar SE16 WD2500KS (Which I currently have).

Another thing is I'm a bit skeptical on putting 500GB worth of data one one disk. A disk failure on a near-full drive resulting in half a terabyte of data loss would be a nightmare.

Anyway, here...
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

ASUS P5K DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400PRO

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler

After shipping, it adds up to USD$1,779.30, which isn't too bad. Although I may be missing a few things, like a soundcard. And I don't need anything special (Like surround sound support, etc) because I just use a headset.

 

[Gray Fox]

I would get a Tuniq Tower 120/Sunbeam tower 120, it cools about the same as the extreme but costs almost half if you count the price for a high quality fan.
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2943&p=3
Also get an Antec Nine Hundred Case.

and here is a list of the best PSU's http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103
If there is one part you should get the best quality, it's the PSU.

Edit: you also might give the radeon 2900xt a thought it does come with Valve Black box, and in recent reviews seems to defeat the GTS in most games and in some games it even comes close to the GTX. That said I read somewhere that the fillrate is going to be the main bottleneck for UT3, and the NV cards have higher fillrate then the ATI, so a GTS will most likely be better for UT3 and gamest that use that engine.

 

[DevgruSeal]

From what I see on Newegg, the Tuniq is only $10 cheaper than the Thermaltake in my previous post.

Also, I'll read through the good PSU list, and take the 2900xt into consideration.

 

[Nabobalis]

Ok, here's what I've taken from that.

I changed a few things to things I have or don't need, or saw something I liked better. I'd also like to know how good of a performance beast the Seagate 7200.10 320GB drive is, or if there is a better gaming drive for around its price. Also, how does it rate against the WD Caviar SE16 WD2500KS (Which I currently have).

Another thing is I'm a bit skeptical on putting 500GB worth of data one one disk. A disk failure on a near-full drive resulting in half a terabyte of data loss would be a nightmare.

Well you could easily just back up the files you deem critical. Here is a review of that hard drive. Seems good. There could be no real differenace between them expect the size.

Anyway, here...
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

ASUS P5K DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400PRO

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler

After shipping, it adds up to USD$1,779.30, which isn't too bad. Although I may be missing a few things, like a soundcard. And I don't need anything special (Like surround sound support, etc) because I just use a headset.

Well you will need to buy a fan for that heatsink. You also might want to look at going for 4GB of ram. The PSU might be an over kill, the Corsair 620W one is a very good PSU. Not sure which is cheaper though.
Also the 640MB GTS is not worth the extra according to benchmarks the 320MB will do fine.

I would get a Tuniq Tower 120/Sunbeam tower 120, it cools about the same as the extreme but costs almost half if you count the price for a high quality fan.
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2943&p=3
Also get an Antec Nine Hundred Case.

I see that and raise you this.
Even better

On choice of case, get the 900 or the P182, both are very good cases.

and here is a list of the best PSU's http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103
If there is one part you should get the best quality, it's the PSU.

Edit: you also might give the radeon 2900xt a thought it does come with Valve Black box, and in recent reviews seems to defeat the GTS in most games and in some games it even comes close to the GTX. That said I read somewhere that the fillrate is going to be the main bottleneck for UT3, and the NV cards have higher fillrate then the ATI, so a GTS will most likely be better for UT3 and gamest that use that engine.

Got any links for the 2900XT, I must admit I haven't seen any that show the 2900XT in a good light. But my choice would be a 320MB GTS. Really until Christmas or beyond.

From what I see on Newegg, the Tuniq is only $10 cheaper than the Thermaltake in my previous post.

Also, I'll read through the good PSU list, and take the 2900xt into consideration.

See above. However I will search the internet for the 2900xt though.

 

[Nabobalis]

On looking at the 2900XT reviews seem to be strange. But if you consider a 2900XT cooling and power will be a big thing for the card. But it seems worth considerings depending on the price.

 

[DevgruSeal]

I just finished reading this article on [H], and the 8800 series did better than the 2900xt.

Yea, I'm leaning towards the 8800GTS now. The 320mb version. I've looked at a few other benchmarks and the 320mb can't run 1920x1200, but I'll most likely be using 1600x1200 for a resolution over the widescreen alternative.

I can always overclock it too

Edit:
I checked prices on the Ultra-120, Ultra-120 Extreme, and the Tuniq Tower 120, and I'm going to select the Tuniq Tower, as the Ultra-120 version is out-of-stock on Newegg, and even so, it's $5 more than the Tuniq, and the Extreme is $10 more than it, and judging by the AnandTech reviews, it's not worth the extra.

Will the Tuniq need a fan purchase as well? If so, any suggestions on a good one?

 

[Nabobalis]

I just finished reading this article on [H], and the 8800 series did better than the 2900xt.

Yea, I'm leaning towards the 8800GTS now. The 320mb version. I've looked at a few other benchmarks and the 320mb can't run 1920x1200, but I'll most likely be using 1600x1200 for a resolution over the widescreen alternative.

I can always overclock it too

Edit:
I checked prices on the Ultra-120, Ultra-120 Extreme, and the Tuniq Tower 120, and I'm going to select the Tuniq Tower, as the Ultra-120 version is out-of-stock on Newegg, and even so, it's $5 more than the Tuniq, and the Extreme is $10 more than it, and judging by the AnandTech reviews, it's not worth the extra.

Will the Tuniq need a fan purchase as well? If so, any suggestions on a good one?

No it comes with one already inside the heatsink. On the AnandTech review, they redid the review and it allot better but only under high clock speed

. I saw that review but if you goggle 2900XT you get a techspot review and in that it performs close to the GTX. But having never heard of them before I'm not sure on how good the review is.

 

[DevgruSeal]

Ah, right. I went back to the review on AnandTech and realized I completely missed the rest of the pages.

I certainly intend on overclocking sometime, so that would definitely be more fitted for my use. Any good fans to use with the eXtreme?

Also, I'll take a look at that Techspot review, but the 2900xt is pretty high up there on the price ladder. $400.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

yeah, better off with an 8800.

 

[Gray Fox]

Well how much is the GTS?
In Holland the 2900xt is 350,- euro's, the GTS is 340,- euro's. But the 2900xt comes with valve blackbox, which for me makes it 300,- euro's. Since I'm buying all three new games when they come out.

Reviews:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2988
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3029 (<- directx 10)
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/05/16/r600_ati_radeon_hd_2900_xt/1
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1099
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/video/r600-part3.html
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_ati_radeon_hd_2900_xt_performance_preview/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/431/
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/449
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2260
http://www.hothardware.com/articles/ATI_Radeon_HD_2900_XT__R600_Has_Arrived/?page=1
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=8687&page=1
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/503/1/
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/ati_2900xt/
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2007/asus/EAH2900XT/b1.htm
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?type=expert&aid=406
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=511
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_2900_XT
http://theinq.com/default.aspx?article=39580
http://www.thetechlounge.com/article/407/ATI+Radeon+HD+2900+XT+512MB/
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2007q2/radeon-hd-2900xt/index.x?pg=1
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/05/14/r600_finally_dx10_hardware_from_ati/index.html
http://www.trustedreviews.com/graphics/review/2007/05/16/AMD-Radeon-HD-2900-XT/p1
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1100/1/page_1_introduction/index.html

The card made the impression on me of being an card bursting with potential, that was not being exploited. Either due to drivers or games not really utilizing directx10. Just look at the anandtech directx10 benches, the ati is on par with the GTX in dx 9 and suddenly it drops massively in directx 10. And the ATI complies better with directx10 then the Nv cards, it has some 10.1 features. I don't think it wil ever be as powerful as the GTX, but it costs so much less yet will probably come close. Then again I did read like I said before fillrate is going to be the main issue for UT3, and the NV cards have higher fillrate. Oddly enough though the 2900xt performs on par with the GTX in R6:Vegas. Also the ATI uses shader based AA, thats why you see a massive fps drop in current games when AA is turned on, so be wary of sites that only show benches with AA turned on.

 

[DevgruSeal]

The GTS 320mb is $280 whereas the 2900xt is $400. And in fact, there's a $20 rebate.

I'll be buying a much better card for DirectX 10 once some standard DX10-utilized games come out and there are some benchmarks for them, anyway.

So for now, I'll stick with a 320mb 8800GTS (it's cheaper than the 2900xt on newegg too), then decide what card to upgrade to once the more stable ones come out.

Also, Nababolis, you suggested upgrading to 4GB of memory, which I was considering as well, which kit do you suggest. I thought maybe just adding a second quantity of the Corsair XMS2 that was listed. Which brought up the price pretty steeply. There's this, though. It'd allow me to keep 8GB of RAM open, too, as it is 2x2GB, rather than 4x1GB.

I also took a look through some fans, but I'm not sure what I need to be looking at for putting on the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme (I'm going to go ahead and go with that one, since I may overclock the CPU sometime)

Also, here's the updated specs:
Antec 900 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA 3.0Gb/s
eVGA 8800GTS 320MB
Corsair 620W PSU
2x(Corsair XMS2 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 800) (See above paragraph relating to the RAM)
Asus P5K Deluxe LGA 775
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
Windows Vista 64-bit
Termalright Ultra-120 Extreme

Taking it to $1,908.31 after shipping costs, and rebates have been applied.

 

[Nabobalis]

Well how much is the GTS?
In Holland the 2900xt is 350,- euro's, the GTS is 340,- euro's. But the 2900xt comes with valve blackbox, which for me makes it 300,- euro's. Since I'm buying all three new games when they come out.

Reviews:
SNIP

The card made the impression on me of being an card bursting with potential, that was not being exploited. Either due to drivers or games not really utilizing directx10. Just look at the anandtech directx10 benches, the ati is on par with the GTX in dx 9 and suddenly it drops massively in directx 10. And the ATI complies better with directx10 then the Nv cards, it has some 10.1 features. I don't think it wil ever be as powerful as the GTX, but it costs so much less yet will probably come close. Then again I did read like I said before fillrate is going to be the main issue for UT3, and the NV cards have higher fillrate. Oddly enough though the 2900xt performs on par with the GTX in R6:Vegas. Also the ATI uses shader based AA, thats why you see a massive fps drop in current games when AA is turned on, so be wary of sites that only show benches with AA turned on.

I say for this current gen of cards are good DX 9 performance cards and for real DX 10 performance I will wait for the second gen of cards.While the ATI is more future looking, both will not be that great for DX 10. So go cheap now with a 8800GTS and then when Nv release the 9XXX or ATI die shrink the 2XXX or release the 3XXX, that for me is when I care about DX 10 performance.

The GTS 320mb is $280 whereas the 2900xt is $400. And in fact, there's a $20 rebate.

I'll be buying a much better card for DirectX 10 once some standard DX10-utilized games come out and there are some benchmarks for them, anyway.

So for now, I'll stick with a 320mb 8800GTS (it's cheaper than the 2900xt on newegg too), then decide what card to upgrade to once the more stable ones come out.

Also, Nababolis, you suggested upgrading to 4GB of memory, which I was considering as well, which kit do you suggest. I thought maybe just adding a second quantity of the Corsair XMS2 that was listed. Which brought up the price pretty steeply. There's this, though. It'd allow me to keep 8GB of RAM open, too, as it is 2x2GB, rather than 4x1GB.

I also took a look through some fans, but I'm not sure what I need to be looking at for putting on the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme (I'm going to go ahead and go with that one, since I may overclock the CPU sometime)

Also, here's the updated specs:
Antec 900 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA 3.0Gb/s
eVGA 8800GTS 320MB
Corsair 620W PSU
2x(Corsair XMS2 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 800) (See above paragraph relating to the RAM)
Asus P5K Deluxe LGA 775
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
Windows Vista 64-bit
Termalright Ultra-120 Extreme

Taking it to $1,908.31 after shipping costs, and rebates have been applied.

The fan used in the review on AnandTech is a very good fan. About 4GB ram, I say go 1GB*4 it is cheap than going with 2GB*2 but it does leave you able to go for 8GB, that I can't see anyone really needing for a few years to come. Also if you were to put 8GB I think the latency would suffer further. However going 2*2GB might be a better option for overclocking. As the motherboard ram over clocks better when placed in the black dimm slots only. I have a 4GB*1 set up because it saved me allot of money. I do think however you should consider this RAM while after MiR its only 3$ more than the Corsair and it is better.

DVD/RW drive? Also all from newegg?

 

[Gray Fox]

If your going to upgrade in a few months anyway, buy a cheap card like I did. I bought the XFX 7900GS XXX overclocked for 100,-. You will be able to run any game for the next year with smooth framerates considering your other specs. There is no need for a 8800 GTS.

 

[The Brick]

As for the ram, look for a good 4gb kit (2x2gb) from a major brand. PC2-6400 C5 is the least you want to get with overclocking in mind.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146691
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227248
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144076

Those are some 2x2gb kits I recommend.

 

[DevgruSeal]

@Gray Fox:
I'll just stick with the 8800GTS. It's still within an ideal budget range, and I intend to do some light DX10 use, in games such as Company of Heroes. STALKER also performed better on it than the 7900, apparently. At least according to the benchmarks I found.

@The Brick:
The links are broken.

 

[The Brick]

Fixed.