A game like VTM?

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So, I am looking for a game similiar to Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. By that I mean a modern day-esque RPG with good voice-acting/story/animations. This is probably too much to ask for, considering I haven't found anything even remotely like it since I started playing it.

Anyway, suggestions would be appreciated.
 
As far as I know it's a one of a kind.
 
Nothing I can think of at the moment. Troika was an amazing developer, sucks that they didn't have the facilities to clean up the game, and they went under due to poor sales because of it. Not that it would have been bugfree, since none of their games were known for being polished in that regard, but they could have cleared out the game breakers.

Really hope another game comes around that can match it.
 
WELLL.... There is a possibility that a new MMO could have a similar style; The Secret World.
 
I suppose it was too much to ask for. I suppose I'll have to wait for Alpha Protocol, with character designs by Brian Mitsuda(sp?) (yes, I'm aware he has left Obsidian) he worked on VTM, as did Chris Avellone, another AP dev. So, it might end up being interesting enough.
 
Mirage said:
I suppose it was too much to ask for. I suppose I'll have to wait for Alpha Protocol, with character designs by Brian Mitsuda(sp?) (yes, I'm aware he has left Obsidian) he worked on VTM, as did Chris Avellone, another AP dev. So, it might end up being interesting enough.
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Brian Mitsoda. He founded his own indie studio called DoubleBear a few months ago. Looking forward to seeing what he comes up with.
 
Yeah, I knew he founded Double Bear. He is currently developing the "ZRPG." I just meant that before he left Obsidian, he also did some character designs/dialogue that remain in tact for AP, I believe. And seeing as how he wrote the Malkavian dialogues in VTM, as well as wrote some of the more interesting parts in the game, this makes me hope AP will have a glimmer of VTM's personality, at the very least.
 
Cool. Didn't know he did the Malk dialog. AP sounded intriguing at first, but I kinda lost interest in it after awhile. This brings back a spark of interest.
 
From what I read on Wikipedia, not ALL of his character designs will be used, and probably most of the dialog won't be either, but some of his work will be used at least. Funny, he used to be the creative lead on AP, working on the main plot, etc. After he left, I believe the plot went through a major over-haul so that explains why most of it is probably irrelevant.
 
God, Bloodlines is such a terrible a game. In pretty much every aspect. If its poor sales are really what caused Troika to go under, that pleases me greatly.

Deus Ex, though, for a similar game... that's actually good.

It was made much earlier but it still has better graphics than Bloodlines (that was the Source engine? ahahaha)... the main character's voice actor talks in a monotone but he's still better than every voice actor in Bloodlines... aaaand the story is actually interesting! Well, any game that even has a story is more interesting than Bloodlines.


And if you've already played Deus Ex... well, shame on you as it certainly didn't improve your taste in games!
 
Letters said:
God, Bloodlines is such a terrible a game. In pretty much every aspect. If its poor sales are really what caused Troika to go under, that pleases me greatly.

Deus Ex, though, for a similar game... that's actually good.

It was made much earlier but it still has better graphics than Bloodlines (that was the Source engine? ahahaha)... the main character's voice actor talks in a monotone but he's still better than every voice actor in Bloodlines... aaaand the story is actually interesting! Well, any game that even has a story is more interesting than Bloodlines.


And if you've already played Deus Ex... well, shame on you as it certainly didn't improve your taste in games!
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Worst troll I have ever seen. Man, you're just really awful at it.
 
Hmm, so I recently picked up Deus Ex in the Steam sale, and though I havent finished it (otherwise it would be in my GoTY thread), it's quickly becoming one of my favourite games of all time. After I'm done, would VTM be a good game to try after that? (I love Deus Ex's gameplay formula, so if VTM is like that I'm sold)
 
VTM is a direct descendant of Deus Ex. I just bought it about two weeks ago (I saw the game box lying around in the Nameless Mod for Deus Ex, which prompted me to seek out the game) and I can't believe I hadn't been all over this game ages ago. Almost everything about it is reminiscent of Deus Ex, I didn't even know a game that followed so much in its footsteps even existed. Unfortunately, there isn't really anything else like them.
 
Hmm, looks very tempting, maybe I can find it in a bargain bin somewhere.

The one thing that turns me off (and is probably the reason I ignored it all those years ago) was that vampires are pretty meh for me. John Dimaggio was frikken awesome though.
 
You can download it off of Steam as well, only $19.99 if I'm not mistaken.
 
Wanted Bob said:
Hmm, looks very tempting, maybe I can find it in a bargain bin somewhere.

The one thing that turns me off (and is probably the reason I ignored it all those years ago) was that vampires are pretty meh for me.
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The game's like $20 these days.

Also these are Vampire the Masquerade vampires. White Wolf's vampires. If there's any vampires you should get down on it's these vampires.
 
I have no knowledge on these sorts of vampires, maybe its the latest influx of vampires getting me down about the idea...

$20 for a newer Deus Ex? Yes please...
 
Yeah, there's been a glut of shitty vampires lately, but don't let that deter you. These vampires are awesome. There's a number of different clans in VtM, each major clan being part of a particular sect and having their own strengths and weaknesses. In Bloodlines you can play as one of the seven Camarilla clans. Basically it amounts to if you want to be a violent biker-looking vampire, a deformed spy, a charismatic charmer, batshit insane...so on and so forth.
 
VTM is indeed an incredible game. It might even be the best RPG I've ever played ... the only main downfalls being a few overlong and annoying dungeon crawls towards the end.

A word of warning to any new people getting the game: make sure you get the fan-made custom patches.
 
VTM with one of the various 'Unofficial patches'(Back when I played there were like two-three offshoots, one focused simply on fixing broken parts of the game and another focused on adding back in deleted monsters, bosses etc, stuff like that) is one fo the greatest RPGs of modern time IMO.

The haunted house mission scared the **** out of me the first time I played it.
 
Krynn72 said:
and they went under due to poor sales because of it. Not that it would have been bugfree, since none of their games were known for being polished in that regard, but they could have cleared out the game breakers.
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Well, as I recall what happened was it released at the exact same time as Half-Life 2. They were given a pretty ridiculous timeline to make it because it wasn't allowed a lot of leeway. Poor Troika, having to run on Valve's timetable.

There are unofficial fan patches that fix the gamebreakers and most other things, though. As Gargantou and Scott both said. They're definitely worth getting.
 
Hmm, seems like I will have to pick this one up sometime. Thanks for the advice guys :)
 
Yorick said:
Well, as I recall what happened was it released at the exact same time as Half-Life 2. They were given a pretty ridiculous timeline to make it because it wasn't allowed a lot of leeway. Poor Troika, having to run on Valve's timetable.
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The only thing valve had anything to do with in terms of their release date was that it couldn't be before HL2's release. So their schedule was whatever they could scrounge out of the money Activision was giving them, which obviously wasnt enough to continue development on it.
 
I am surprised VTMB is still 20 bucks, isn't it coming up to be at least 7 years old now?

Definitely worth it, but I am still surprised Steam is selling it at that price.

Anyways, anyone play the first? Any good?
 
Yeah, like everyone else said, install the right patches and you end up with one of the best RPGs ever. The last few hours are kind of boring, though.
 
taviow said:
Yeah, like everyone else said, install the right patches and you end up with one of the best RPGs ever. The last few hours are kind of boring, though.
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But damn worth it.

Really, not playing Bloodlines condemns you to a life of casual gaming.
 
I'm playing through it right now (first run). Patched with official patches only, I like my first playthroughs to be pure, how the devs intended them to be.

Maybe if I'll decide for a second run (with a Malkavian, as I heard they have a significantly different manner of speaking) I'll play with the unofficial patches.
 
Unfocused said:
I'm playing through it right now (first run). Patched with official patches only, I like my first playthroughs to be pure, how the devs intended them to be.
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No. Get the fan patches. The devs did not intend for the game to be that buggy, I assure you. You will most likely get part way through the game and get stuck with a game breaking bug that prevents you from continuing further. Get the damn patches if you know whats good for you.
 
Yeah, it's a shame that this game was overlooked by so many. The developers and their publisher are to blame though. They released a buggy game at the same time Half Life 2 came out. It was quickly overshadowed by its release. They should have delayed it for a few more months to fix some of the bugs and let the hype of Half Life 2 die a bit down. This could have been a success. Instead it faded into obscurity and the developer went bust.


If you are looking for modern day shooters/rpg's, give Boiling Point: Road to Hell a try.
A sequel was also released but they have yet to release an English version. What about STALKER? Have you tried that yet?
 
Yeah, I tried Stalker, good game but not up to the storytelling standards I am looking for. I'll look into Boiling Point, although from what I read the initial release was quite buggy.

I know this will probably never happen, but I wish Obsidian would take another shot at VTM, as while initially the sales numbers were low, I believe they reached acceptable levels through the years. I think with correct marketing, and not releasing anywhere near high profile games, it could fair well. As I said, this will probably never happen. But, I can dream.
 
Unfocused said:
I'm playing through it right now (first run). Patched with official patches only, I like my first playthroughs to be pure, how the devs intended them to be.
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You should REALLY get the unofficial patches, the devs DEFINITELY didn't intend for the game to be so buggy.

edit: hi krynn
 
Unfocused said:
Maybe if I'll decide for a second run (with a Malkavian, as I heard they have a significantly different manner of speaking) I'll play with the unofficial patches.
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Malkavian is my preferred class. They're absolutely awesome. Nosferatu has a very interesting way to have to play the game because of their disfigurements.

Krynn72 said:
No. Get the fan patches. The devs did not intend for the game to be that buggy, I assure you. You will most likely get part way through the game and get stuck with a game breaking bug that prevents you from continuing further. Get the damn patches if you know whats good for you.
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I can understand Unfocused desire to play without the fan patches, because I think they do mess with some balancing and other things, but I agree. There's nothing as infuriating as getting several hours into the game to have it break.
 
I'm in Chinatown now and the only significant bugs so far were:

-feeding on rats not giving any blood (and there's one part of the game where I could use blood from them)
-no sniper rifle even though a certain character says he's got one for me (AFAIK this can only be fixed by the unofficial patches you guys mention)
-disciplines sometimes not working correctly - ie. mass suicide sometimes killing enemies around the one I'm targeting, but not the target itself
 
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