A general rant

[ray_MAN]

I hate it when people abbreviate things to the point of slicing and dicing the English language.
eg: "u r so gay"
Are people that busy, that lazy, to spare four more letters to make the sentence a real English one? I find myself able to boost my English by maintaining the use of proper grammar, even on the web. Also, what's with intentional misspellings?
eg: "hay"
Why can no one move their finger a bit to the right and in the upwards direction the change the "a" to the proper "e"?
Also, notice that there is no punctuation. Why does no one ever use punctuation?
13 year-old kids are not boggled enough to have to use obscene abbreviatons to make things shorter. It's also ridiculous when full-grown adults must use this mockery of English. Please, if you are one of these people, change your ways. I can understand if you are foreign, and English is not your primary language, but I am speaking mainly to the English users.
This was a general rant that was not intended to harm anyone in any way. Please, do not attack me or flame me. I am just trying to help.

 

[Pesmerga]

Here's my rant :

People like you.

 

[oldagerocker]

I agree wit u. I fink wot u say dis vry fortful.

Yeah, its annoying as hell and kids are growing up now more illiterate than ever because now they have this Text Speak... thats their langauge. Proper english is now for the higher classes, like going to grammer school and learning latin.

The adults do it because they're just trying to be young and cool

 

[ray_MAN]

Unfortunately, yes.

 

[SimonomiS]

I think everyone on this forum agrees with you.
Worst excuse ever: "Its only the internet/text-world, why bother?"

 

[theGreenBunny]

HAY GUYZ WHAT'S GOING ON!

Not the use of 'hay' in this sentence. This was not a real misspelling, it was intentionally spelled as such to make it more ridiculous/absurd and therefore funny. Either way, such language should only be used in a humorous fashion to pick fun on those who use it all the time. Things like 'u' and 'r' annoy me to no end.

 

[ray_MAN]

I admire you, TGB. You have better English than some Americans I know, but you still are foreign. Amazing.

 

[NonStopableForce]

I agree, so some point, but the occasional u, or something is fine, i dont really notice it. But when its something like...

I agree wit u. I fink wot u say dis vry fortful.

I dont even bother trying to read it.
Like WTF does it say anyway?

-NSF

 

[xLostx]

Omg Hi2u!!

 

[Shippi]

It's annoying.. on text messages, ok, understandable. But online, you've no excuse really.

 

[Vorac1ous]

I agree ray_Man, it is very agitating to look at that nonsense that is (or might not be...)the English language.

 

[ComradeBadger]

It's annoying.. on text messages, ok, understandable. But online, you've no excuse really.

Yea I use it in txts - but that's different - there is actually a problem with kids doing coursework in txt speak :|

 

[ríomhaire]

agrd i ht wn ppl do dat

but seriously, I also hate that.

 

[Shippi]

Yea I use it in txts - but that's different - there is actually a problem with kids doing coursework in txt speak :|

That's awful :|

Texting is just about the only time some people I know read though, i'm not suprised they start doing schoolwork in text speak

 

[pheint]

I got temp-banned on the SOE forums for telling a guy to learn to use real words before posting his replies. Apparently a moderator didn't find it as funny as I did.

 

[ACLeroK212]

I agree. To me, it seems that it almost takes more effort to think about it and type like that then to just type out how it's supposed to be typed, which should be second nature. But if using e-slang like that seems like second nature to someone instead, then that just further proves that there really is something wrong with using it in the first place.

 

[Kangy]

Well, my final opinion on the matter is that if somebody doesn't respect the reader enough to type a little more and make it easily readable, then whatever they've written obviously doesn't matter.

(And people who use it in coursework should be shipped off for slave labour.)

 

[bvasgm]

Exactly. If you can't be bothered to type your message in proper english, why should I take the time to read it?

(And people who use it in coursework should be shipped off for slave labour.)

Agree 100%

 

[kirovman]

Yeah I hate it. When I read that kind of thing from people online, they suddenly drop 40 iq points in my estimation.

Text messages I kind of abbreviate.
Sometimes say 'u' instead of 'you', but I believe that's the only substitution I make.

It's even worse than Americanised English

 

[Kangy]

I hear in the US that there's actually a small method of teaching English where the idea presented is actually more important in marking and encouragement terms than the use of punctuation, correct spelling etc.

This makes me mad. x_x

I don't really mind text messages reading like that. Crappy character limits mean you generally find yourself trying to fit a big message into the limit to save yourself typing two texts.

 

[ACLeroK212]

Americanised English

If you're going to make fun of our use of the English language, I suggest spelling AmericaniZed right.

 

[ComradeBadger]

That's awful :|

Texting is just about the only time some people I know read though, i'm not suprised they start doing schoolwork in text speak

Throw them a copy of War & Peace

:E

 

[SimonomiS]

I don't really mind text messages reading like that. Crappy character limits mean you generally find yourself trying to fit a big message into the limit to save yourself typing two texts.

Yeah thats annoying, but I know people who shorten it when theres loads of space left. :| I only shorten things into text speak if I run out of space or write a long text, don't feel like wasting money for going over the limit by one or two letters...
But with e-mails, on forums and on instant messages; There is no reason to shorten words using text-speak at all!
I just don't get the reasoning behind it.

 

[ACLeroK212]

I hear in the US that there's actually a small method of teaching English where the idea presented is actually more important in marking and encouragement terms than the use of punctuation, correct spelling etc.

This makes me mad. x_x

News to those of us in the US. I have heard of no such thing.

 

[Eminent]

I agree, I can't stand it. The only writing I do these days is on forums, so I use it keep my English skills intact. Unfortunatly my English skill suck anyway and I can't spell anything that isn't spelt as it's sounds, I honestly think I'm dyslexic (had to look that up in the dictionary) so please excuse me the odd spelling misshap.

 

[kirovman]

If you're going to make fun of our use of the English language, I suggest spelling AmericaniZed right.

Lol. Your view is PolariSed by your institutionaliSed mis-appropriated spelling.

Yes, we don't use zzzs in those words, we're not bees.

 

[ACLeroK212]

Lol. Your view is PolariSed by your institutionaliSed mis-appropriated spelling.

Yes, we don't use zzzs in those words, we're not bees.

Mis-appropriated spelling? Argue it with the dictionary then.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=americanised

 

[SimonomiS]

Lol. Your view is PolariSed by your institutionaliSed mis-appropriated spelling.

Yes, we don't use zzzs in those words, we're not bees.

http://www.bfbs.org.uk/britishisles/anglicisation.html

Books which originate in Great Britain are sometimes americanised (spelt americanized in the USA) for the USA with American spellings.

 

[kirovman]

Mis-appropriated spelling? Argue it with the dictionary then.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=americanised

Biased source.

Anyway I was always taught we use the s in Britain, the yanks use the z.

If you think your [sic] so right, then let's see some legitimate proof.

http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/b/brsp-amsp.html

In the US many nouns become verbs by adding -ize (standardize). These same words usually end in -ise in Britain, despite the British dictionaries which show -ize as the main form with -ise as an alternative. One consistency is the American -yze words (analyze) are all -yse in Britain.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[ACLeroK212]

Biased source.

Just face it. Your wrong. I don't care where the dictionary comes from, it's all the same language and they don't make up words.

If you think your so right, then let's see some legitimate proof.

 

[oldagerocker]

The Americanz have been zozialized into uzing zee'z in there zpellingz inztead of ezzez.

 

[KoreBolteR]

not exactly, my little cousin knows the difference between txt speak and proper english..

but i suppose the real thick ones may have a problem..but hey, what are you gonna do to change it?

its impossible, english slang evolves.. changes through time gradually making it easier to write or say, shorter.

 

[kirovman]

http://www.bfbs.org.uk/britishisles/anglicisation.html

Just noticed that, better evidence than mine.

Anyway where were we?

Ah yes, Grumble grumble, bloody txt spk kids. Almost as bad as those 1337 kids.

 

[spookymooky]

If it bothers you, just consider it a dialect, Im sure Mandarin Chinese isnt looked down on by speakers of...other..Chinese.

 

[SLH]

Guys, guys, don't fight amongst yourselves, we should be uniting against txt ppl!

 

[oldagerocker]

The written language of chinese is the same... its just the spoken thats different afaik, like a scotsman and a londoner will sound utterly differnt, but be speaking english still.

 

[SimonomiS]

not exactly, my little cousin knows the difference between txt speak and proper english..

but i suppose the real thick ones may have a problem..but hey, what are you gonna do to change it?

its impossible, english slang evolves.. changes through time gradually making it easier to write or say, shorter.

Eventually ending up with Newspeak?

 

[kirovman]

If it bothers you, just consider it a dialect, Im sure Mandarin Chinese isnt looked down on by speakers of...other..Chinese.

No, instead Mandarin (putonghua, Beijinginised) Chinese look down on the other dialects. But Mandarin is the standard dialect, accents often portray you as lower class or ill educated in China, if you use them in Beijing say.

The written language of chinese is the same... its just the spoken thats different afaik, like a scotsman and a londoner will sound utterly differnt, but be speaking english still.

No it's much more diverse than that, Mandarin speakers will often have no idea what Cantonese speakers are saying (writing is the same though). Good analogy though.

 

[StardogChampion]

Girls are the worst for using txt speak. I admit I used to use things like "u" when I was younger, but I'm 19 now and I haven't used txt spelling for years.

A lot of girls I know still use it. They're 19 and still typing as if they're 14/15. They're idiots though.

 

[Eminent]

Never used "txt speak" and never will, if anyone sends me a text like that I'll tell them to send it again in english. Luckily though most of my friends use real words so it doesn't happen that often.