Abortion is wrong

[ALEXDJ]

abortion is wrong and should be made illigel everywhere

there are trying to fix their mistakes by taking away a human life

 

[Yuri]

GO AWAY TO POLITICS FORUM!!! Please do not rape General Off-topic

 

[Ikerous]

1.) I completely and whole-heartedly disagrea with you.
2.) Get outa my general off-topic! ::Hugs GOT::
3.) Will you have my baby?

 

[Tr0n]

Dude...wrong forum.

Damn can't even put it in the right forum...

 

[ALEXDJ]

how do i move it?

 

[Tr0n]

You can't only a mod/admin can.

 

[Foxtrot]

how do i move it?

You can't, but a mod can. And I agree with you, killing someone because you are a whore is wrong.

 

[Ikerous]

how do i move it?

Wait for a mod to do it
Or you could prolly report it

 

[ALEXDJ]

well, anyways nothing can justafy an abortion exept if the mother's life is at risk

 

[Yuri]

You can't, but a mod can. And I agree with you, killing someone because you are a whore is wrong.

What if you were raped?


OMG look what you've done, Alex-person! NoOoOooOO!

 

[Ikerous]

What about just a fertilized egg?
Is it immoral to destroy those?

 

[Kangy]

abortion is wrong and should be made illigel everywhere

there are trying to fix their mistakes by taking away a human life

Yeah, because rape is 100% the mothers fault, as is the faultiness of some contraceptive methods and the fact that they could not give the baby a good home.

OH SNAP.

 

[DeusExMachina]

You can't, but a mod can. And I agree with you, killing someone because you are a whore is wrong.

So everyone woman who gets pregnant is a whore than?

 

[Foxtrot]

What if you were raped?


OMG look what you've done, Alex-person! NoOoOooOO!

I agree with abortion in that situation, no need to make the women suffer even more after being raped, she also had no control in the situation.

 

[Foxtrot]

So everyone woman who gets pregnant is a whore than?

No, I just felt like making an ignorant statement which is partially true.

 

[Ikerous]

I agree with abortion in that situation, no need to make the women suffer even more after being raped, she also had no control in the situation.

>< How is 'murder' sometimes justifiable ><
It makes no sense to be against it, unless its rape
Just because you were raped doesnt give you the right to 'murder'

Then again i dont consider it murder -_-

 

[ALEXDJ]

Yeah, because rape is 100% the mothers fault, as is the faultiness of some contraceptive methods and the fact that they could not give the baby a good home.

OH SNAP.

are you tripping? rephrase please

 

[ALEXDJ]

>< How is 'murder' sometimes justifiable ><
It makes no sense to be against it, unless its rape

it makes no sense to be against it?

what are you talking about, please rephrase

 

[Ikerous]

it makes no sense to be against it?

what are you talking about, please rephrase

I did already edit it to be more clear

And i was saying it makes no sense to be against it, but be for it if its rape... murder is murder (assuming you think abortion is murder, and if you dont, why would you be against it at all?)

 

[Foxtrot]

Yeah, because rape is 100% the mothers fault, as is the faultiness of some contraceptive methods and the fact that they could not give the baby a good home.

OH SNAP.

There is a huge market for adoption, most parents have to adopt Asian children for example (not saying that is bad, but most parents want a child that is like them).

 

[Dalamari]

>< How is 'murder' sometimes justifiable ><
It makes no sense to be against it, unless its rape
Just because you were raped doesnt give you the right to 'murder'

Then again i dont consider it murder -_-

Isn't killing your enemy in war murder?

 

[Lemonking]

stupid Bolschewist
how can you be so ignorant?
just like banning guns
you are truly stupid

 

[Foxtrot]

I did already edit it to be more clear

And i was saying it makes no sense to be against it, but be for it if its rape... murder is murder (assuming you think abortion is murder, and if you dont, why would you be against it at all?)

A crime is sometimes justified by crime, killing someone is a crime right? What if it was in self defense?

 

[Ikerous]

Isn't killing your enemy in war murder?

Generally in a war situation itd be protecting yourself... ionno, it'd have to be more specific. Why...?

A crime is sometimes justified by crime, killing someone is a crime right? What if it was in self defense?

...

That would be implying the baby did something wrong...
To compare self defence to 'murdering' a 'baby' is appalling ><

 

[Foxtrot]

Generally in a war situation itd be protecting yourself... ionno, it'd have to be more specific. Why...?

Then couldn't aborting the baby from rape be considered self defense? That would not imply the baby did anything wrong, quit being so ingorant. It would imply that the mother was wronged and brought into the situation against her will, like self defense.

 

[ALEXDJ]

Isn't killing your enemy in war murder?

yes it is, and there is nothing right about it

also, abortion is a murder as well, people go sleep around and then instead of learning from their mistakes, just kill an inisent fetas and go on whoring

 

[Ikerous]

Then couldn't aborting the baby from rape be considered self defense?

::Cries:: Don't be offended if i completely stop responding to everything you say now..

 

[Foxtrot]

yes it is, and there is nothing right about it

also, abortion is a murder as well, people go sleep around and then instead of learning from their mistakes, just kill an inisent fetas and go on whoring

Exactly, I know people like that at my school.

::Cries:: Don't be offended if i completely stop responding to everything you say now..

It is OK, you are from California...heh...I don't need to say anymore.

 

[Ikerous]

yes it is, and there is nothing right about it

also, abortion is a murder as well, people go sleep around and then instead of learning from their mistakes, just kill an inisent fetas and go on whoring

Like i asked earlier, is killing a single celled furtilized egg murder?
If it isn't, where do you draw the line?
(If you do consider it murder, than.. o.<, nvm..)

It is OK, you are from California...heh...I don't need to say anymore.

Lol, randomingly insulting the state i live in.. nice :rolling:

 

[Lemonking]

cali is the center of the Universe
plain simple

 

[Foxtrot]

Like i asked earlier, is killing a single celled furtilized egg murder?
If it isn't, where do you draw the line?
(If you do consider it murder, than.. o.<, nvm..)


Lol, randomingly insulting the state i live in.. nice :rolling:

I was just saying that you have a warped view on most things, that place is full of liberals.

 

[Ikerous]

I was just saying that you have a warped view on most things, that place is full of liberals.

Yea it is, i love this place <3

I actually live in a fairly conserative community though -_-

And liberals dont have a warped view..
But theres already a different thread for discussing that

 

[Tr0n]

I plan on moving to cali once I get shit settled with my life. o/

 

[Kangy]

yes it is, and there is nothing right about it

also, abortion is a murder as well, people go sleep around and then instead of learning from their mistakes, just kill an inisent fetas and go on whoring

Some people have long loving relationships, and use contraceptives every night. That condom they used that night fell into the 99.99% that fail, and she got pregnant. They can't really afford it right then and there, and he wants to work hard enough to get that job to give a well-loved and wanted child the best life it can possibly have.

It's just not quite as simple as it is sometimes portrated.

 

[Foxtrot]

Yea it is, i love this place <3

I actually live in a fairly conserative community though -_-

And liberals dont have a warped view..
But theres already a different thread for discussing that

I am not saying you have a warped view, you just have a different view...which is warped...dirty liberal...go have butt sex!

In Minnesota it is about 50/50.

Some people have long loving relationships, and use contraceptives every night. That condom they used that night fell into the 99.99% that fail, and she got pregnant. They can't really afford it right then and there, and he wants to work hard enough to get that job to give a well-loved and wanted child the best life it can possibly have.

It's just not quite as simple as it is sometimes portrated.

Then put it up for adoption.

 

[Kangy]

Then put it up for adoption.

Maybe they don't want that child to find out that they abandoned it? Maybe they don't want to put up with the guilt that'd come with putting a child up for adoption and wondering how and where it is every day for the rest of their lives?

Heck, maybe that child would damage the chances of having other children? Maybe it could be born with a birth defect that's entirely serious?

It's just not as simple as that.

 

[Foxtrot]

Maybe they don't want that child to find out that they abandoned it? Maybe they don't want to put up with the guilt that'd come with putting a child up for adoption and wondering how and where it is every day for the rest of their lives?

Heck, maybe that child would damage the chances of having other children? Maybe it could be born with a birth defect that's entirely serious?

It's just not as simple as that.

Any child has a chance of birth defects, and it is the mothers fault if she is going to increase that chance. My mom was adopted, she has never met her real parents and I don't think she really minds. That don't want to put up with the guilt of giving the child away so they kill it? That makes no sense to me.

 

[Ikerous]

Boiling it down to specific situations won't help assess weather or not abortion is wrong... it's a matter of deciding if abortion actually is murder.

Personally, i think that a single celled fertilized egg is not a human and therefore it isn't even concievabley murder. However, when that egg is nine months into development and just about to pop outta its mom, i'd consider it a human and therefore killing it would be murder.

Obviously somewhere within that timespan it changes from not human, to human. Where? I have no idea. I can't know that. So i go off of the opinions of people that have spent their life studying child development and go with somewhere just after the first trimester.

 

[Shodan]

Like kangy says, its just not as simple or as practical to think like that, imagine you are single, have a very low income, you know there is no way that you could ever afford to bring up a child. Also, the child may be taken into care as the parent could not afford to look after them properly.

There are many things to take into consideration, before you can just say, "I've got to have this baby because I can't have an abortion, because its murder"

 

[ríomhaire]

If I got a girl pregnant I wouldn't let her get an abortion.