Alex St. Andre speaks the words of truth

[Tagaziel]

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2277507,00.asp

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I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[-Psy-]

GPU and CPU on the same board? That could be very, very interesting.

 

[StardogChampion]

Depends how powerful they would be. What settings would you be able to run something like Crysis on with this new chip?

 

[Bad^Hat]

He certainly knows how to rant.

Interesting read. Way ****ing agreed on the aggro over Vista and shitty OEM machines, onboard graphics are a ****ing plight against PC gaming. Anyway, I'd be right behind a PC "renaissance" if it's on the cards, but until then I'm sticking with where the games are.

 

[Ravioli]

We're in a very interesting transition period. We're at the end of the game industry, and a major era in the game industry. This is the end of an ice age. Don't know what's coming after this?gonna be something new. We're seeing the end of what came before. The end of 3D graphics as we knew it, we're at the end of PC and console gaming as we knew it, it's gonna be something new from here on out.

lol??

 

[Tagaziel]

Why "lol"?

Anyways, I mixed up the thread title, I was thinkig of Ken St. Andre, Wasteland developer, while writing... such is the way of my brain.

 

[Ravioli]

Hes talking as if somekind of doomsday is coming where the sky turns red and a gate to hell opens up and all consoles and pcs gets sucked in and are locked in hell for all eternity.

Or i might be over reacting.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

The minute I heard he was one of the men behind Wild Tangent I cringed, the app used for those games integrates itself with the windows CP without even deliberately asking and is thus what I consider invasive bloatware.

You ask me what I think the future of PC gaming is? Hopefully the death of overpriced power hungry GPUs and the beginning of an era of integration that can actually push decent graphics. Luckily both AMD/Intel are working on those types of solutions more seriously than ever now, especially with the entire Vista not running on pre-builts fiasco.

 

[Asuka]

That was a amazing read. I agree with nearly EVERYTHING. Man was that intense!

 

[DEATHMASTER]

The minute I heard he was one of the men behind Wild Tangent I cringed, the app used for those games integrates itself with the windows CP without even deliberately asking and is thus what I consider invasive bloatware.

the sh17 came on my spybot hitlist, I don't like the crap. He had some points but seriously "end of console gaming"? like hell.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

the sh17 came on my spybot hitlist, I don't like the crap. He had some points but seriously "end of console gaming"? like hell.

It's a bullshit company and a bullshit program, but the man has a few good points.

 

[boglito]

I think he (and everybody) misunderstands the success of WoW as a success of PC-gaming (when it is quite the opposite) but apart from that he does have some good points.

However, his apparent faith in the PC as a gaming platform seems to be entirely based upon his own stake in it and not so much upon the actual facts. Although the ommission of physical drives in future consoles will have dire consequenses for the retail business it will not change the picture microsoft and sony are looking at. Their consoles will still be an efficient way to implement HWDRM that the average consumer cannot easilly circumvent (soldering on a modchip that voids guarantee and complicates online authentication is not easy). Implementing a similar DRM into the varying HW of a PC is going to be almost impossible, at least looking 5 or 10 years into the future.

Software-DRM is going to move forwards in the near future and that's really the only hope the PC has. Unfortunately for us PC-gamers the pirates and their useful idiots are strong in their crusade against such meassures so it might take too long.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

I think he (and everybody) misunderstands the success of WoW as a success of PC-gaming (when it is quite the opposite) but apart from that he does have some good points.

However, his apparent faith in the PC as a gaming platform seems to be entirely based upon his own stake in it and not so much upon the actual facts. Although the ommission of physical drives in future consoles will have dire consequenses for the retail business it will not change the picture microsoft and sony are looking at. Their consoles will still be an efficient way to implement HWDRM that the average consumer cannot easilly circumvent (soldering on a modchip that voids guarantee and complicates online authentication is not easy). Implementing a similar DRM into the varying HW of a PC is going to be almost impossible, at least looking 5 or 10 years into the future.

Software-DRM is going to move forwards in the near future and that's really the only hope the PC has. Unfortunately for us PC-gamers the pirates and their useful idiots are strong in their crusade against such meassures so it might take too long.

How is that a misunderstanding? WoW has people gaming on PCs. It has incredibly low front-end requirements and runs on Macs without any kind of patching or separate box. Blizzard, even before they were quite the behemoth they are today has had incredible standards for making sure they make games that work for everyone. If more developers for other genres followed suit and more hardware manufacturers complied we might have a stronger industry right about now. Valve and Blizzard are not so different, you know.

 

[boglito]

How is that a misunderstanding? WoW has people gaming on PCs. It has incredibly low front-end requirements and runs on Macs without any kind of patching or separate box. Blizzard, even before they were quite the behemoth they are today has had incredible standards for making sure they make games that work for everyone. If more developers for other genres followed suit and more hardware manufacturers complied we might have a stronger industry right about now. Valve and Blizzard are not so different, you know.

The point is that the billions WoW rake in do not really benefit anyone but activision-blizzard (aka vivendi), and they will not in some way translate this renevue into good-will for the PC as a gaming-platform. They will focus on consoles if that makes financial sense, and unless you make an MMO then it usually does. That said, remember that the market for MMO's is not unlimited and that WoW already fills most of it. There really is little incentive to get in there right now, allthough God knows many are trying, another ill effect of WoW on PC-gaming.