AMD or Intel?!

[-TaNaKa-]

Hi,

I have really tryed to know as much as possible about processors. I checked some sites and benchmarks and stuff but i still cant decide what processor i should choose in the upcoming months.

My new computer has to be mainly for gaming, and the rest comes second. As i heard AMD processors are better for the job when it comes to gaming.


So need to a few things:

1.Is AMD better for gaming yes or no?
2.The AMD Athlon64 3200+ is 2.0 ghz, a Intel P4 is 3.0 ghz, does the AMD run slower when you are multi-tasking? I mean, are there big differences?
3.Can someone explain me for example (crazy example): A game that absorbs all of the CPU on a Intel P4 3.0 ghz, will it absorb all of the CPU of the AMD also? I mean if a game demands a 2.4 ghz ( in HL2 for example ), and a AMD is 2.0 ghz, doesnt it absorb all of the CPU and runs too short? Or doesnt it have anything to do with the ghz number?

And finally, what the better processor for gaming? AMD Athlon64 3200+(1mbcache) or Intel P4 3.0 ghz(1mbcache)??

 

[Pressure]

1. Yes
2. No
3. No, nothing to do with it
4. 3200+ it's just like a 3.2 GHz Intel

 

[VeZ]

4. The 64 3200+ owns the intel 3.0ghz

 

[-TaNaKa-]

ok thats all i needed to know, thanks

I have been with AMD like always anyway, my current pc is frickin 5 years old. AMD Athlon 900 mghz, back then it was a very fast computer. I have never had problems with it, but its just too old now, it cant keep up with anything anymore :smoking:

 

[kidrock450]

5 What is better? intel EE 3.4ghz or AMD 3200 64

 

[blahblahblah]

The P4 3.4 GHz EE (Extreme Edition) is a thousand dollar processor. It will walk all over the Athlon 64 3200+.

If you mean P4 3.4 GHz E (Prescott Core), the Athlon 64 3200+ will equal the P4 in benchmarks while putting out less heat.

 

[-TaNaKa-]

I quess it all depends on what you really want to use your processor for. And it means that the Athlon 3400+ really owns then, but too expensive right now..

Mine computer at the moment. Im proud of it
Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Speed : 902MHz
Model Number : 902 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR1200 (estimated)
Type : Standard
Package : Socket A PGA
Multiplier : 9/1x
Generation : G7
Name : Athlon M4 (Thunderbird) 180nm 650-1.4GHz 1.7-1.8V
Revision/Stepping : 4 / 2 (0)
Stepping Mask : A4..A8
Core Voltage Rating : 1.750V
Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 36-bit / 32-bit
Native Page Size : 4kB

Power Rating(s)
CPU Core Power : 44W (estimated)
CPU Cooling System Thermal Resistance : 0.72°C/W (estimated)

Sensors
CPU Temperature : 55.7°C / 132.3°F
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
CPU Fan Speed : 4688rpm
CPU Voltage : 1.80V


:smoking:

 

[The Terminator]

that just your processors and temps, thats not your computer.

 

[blahblahblah]

And to answer TaNaKa's questions

1) Yes, the Athlon 64's are better for gaming than P4's.
2) No. The Athlon 64 does the exact same amount of work as a P4, except it runs at a slower clock speed.

Here is an analogy. Let's say you have two engines. One engine will have 200 horsepower, and 100 torque. The other engine will have 100 horespower and 200 lb/ft of torque. Even though the primary statistic you hear about engines is horsepower, torque is very important as well. In this analogy, both engines perform equally.

Processors are the same way. Not only is clock speed important, but the amount of work a processor can get done per cycle. AMD's can run at a slower clock cycle, but they do more work per cycle. Intel is the opposite.

3) See #2.
4) The Athlon 64 3200 + is better for gaming. If you want to match the P4 3 GHz, you can get a Athlon 64 3000+.

 

[-TaNaKa-]

Sorry, i ment Processor. My bad. Are there big differences between 3000+ and 3200+?? Because the price difference isnt that much...

 

[kidrock450]

What about a p4 3.4 extreme edition up against an AMD FX-53? Who wins in gaming?

 

[blahblahblah]

Here some benchmarks comparing the P4 EE to the FX-53. I personally would go with the FX-53 because of its slightly cheaper price and slightly better in games. However, the P4 EE is better in rendering and productivity applications.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2065

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Here is an analogy. Let's say you have two engines. One engine will have 200 horsepower, and 100 torque. The other engine will have 100 horespower and 200 lb/ft of torque. Even though the primary statistic you hear about engines is horsepower, torque is very important as well. In this analogy, both engines perform equally.

You need to race a car going by that analogy, see who wins...

 

[blahblahblah]

You need to race a car going by that analogy, see who wins...

shhhhhhh, its just an analogy.

I used extreme numbers to show that there is more than one thing that affects processor performance.

 

[ShinRa]

Here some benchmarks comparing the P4 EE to the FX-53. I personally would go with the FX-53 because of its slightly cheaper price and slightly better in games. However, the P4 EE is better in rendering and productivity applications.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2065

I have the fx-53 socket 939, theres a small difference in performance from the 940, in that it is faster. Comparing it to the P4 EE though, in gaming the fx shits all over the P4EE, however in workstations like rendering and encoding P4EE shits all over the fx. Since most people here buy comps for games, the fx is better in that sense.

 

[Asus]

Benchmarks
Pentium 4 3.4GHz Extreme Edition vs Athlon 64 FX-53 2.4GHz
Pentium 4 3.4GHz 'E' vs Athlon 64 3500+, 3700+, and 3800+
Pentium 4 2.4GHz 'C' vs Athlon XP 2400+ 2GHz

 

[sHm0zY]

AMD fo sho!! lol

 

[63]

I've only used AMD, so I am a biased b*tch

 

[-TaNaKa-]

I never used Intel also, and never will i quess. And when you for example copy a big movie file ( like 1 gig ) to a folder, then Intel is faster right? But i quess we are talking about some seconds and not minutes i think. Heck i dont need to buy a Intel for that. Gaming is important So are there big differences between 3000+ and 3200+ ?? Or too small differences and a waste of money?

 

[noluck]

copying files is hdd intensive not cpu

 

[-TaNaKa-]

Oh i didnt know, thats why my 5 year old computer is so slow at copying. damn hdd.