Another Question Reguarding Xbox Version

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Question to Hl2.net Staff About Xbox Version

Hi to all again, i made a thread like this like a month ago or so, but anyway this is still on the same subject but with a different sort of question, so i was reading the faq of halflife 2 on this great site, and by the way congrats on the GOLD anouncement (if its already a concrete fact and verified by valve that is).

So my question is this, im quoting :

" Will I be able to play Half-Life 2 on my X-Box? What about my PlayStation 2?

You would be better off buying it for the PC first of all. The X-Box version is completed but it won’t be released until after the PC version. As for the PlayStation 2 and other consoles, nothing has been set in stone yet, but Valve has hinted that we may see it on the PlayStation 2. "


It says the xbox version is completed along with the pc version? where did this information came from? Is it true? Im hoping it is because these are good news, can anyone from the site, or the person that wrote the awesome faq enlighten me on this matter.

Thanks a bunch, once again.
 
The HL2.net staff have some connections......

/me whistles...
 
the moderators (namely Munro) pay VALVe in sexual favours for information :eek:
 
They playsation 2 rumour was proved a fake. If it does come out it will be anouther repeat of the last castle wolfensterin- blurry textures and terrible lighting. The ps2 can simply no handle the lastest pc games. Getting it on your pc, even if it is low-end, is a much better idea. Or XBOX. Pc still better.
 
Kristafon said:
They playsation 2 rumour was proved a fake. If it does come out it will be anouther repeat of the last castle wolfensterin- blurry textures and terrible lighting. The ps2 can simply no handle the lastest pc games. Getting it on your pc, even if it is low-end, is a much better idea. Or XBOX. Pc still better.
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Or you can wait for PS3, which will probably be as good as the current "Medium leveled" computer at the time of arrival and then be outdated swiftly, just as the PS2.
 
I think that is ALL old information and it should be taken with a grain of salt. I can see HL2 coming out for xbox, but not anytime soon. I'd guess soonest we'd see it on xbox (if at all) would be 4-6 months after HL2's release.
 
ps2 1999
top end pc- 800MHz
console- 300MHz

ps3 about 2005/2006
top end pc- 4GHz
console- 1.3GHz???

not challenging anybody, this just got me thinking
 
The playstation 2 /3 thing i can understand perfectly, but my main point of doubt is that the xbox version is completed, its not been advertised for a long time now, ever since in gamespot or other site it mentioned that valve had the game running on it, besides that i cant recall anything else said about it, thats why its strange and got me curious about the statement in the Faq.

Still looking for an answer if there is even one :D take it easy good people.
 
zul said:
I think that is ALL old information and it should be taken with a grain of salt. I can see HL2 coming out for xbox, but not anytime soon. I'd guess soonest we'd see it on xbox (if at all) would be 4-6 months after HL2's release.
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It is working on XBOX now and has been since may. There WILL be an XBOX version.
About two months after pc.
 
Its funny really as HL2 is optimized for ATI and the XBox has a GF3 in it.

kristafon said:
ps2 1999
top end pc- 800MHz
console- 300MHz

ps3 about 2005/2006
top end pc- 4GHz
console- 1.3GHz???

not challenging anybody, this just got me thinking
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just means speed isnt everything. A console is just for games as well, you dont get loads of crap running in the background. It also depends on how the power is used. Look at the apollo missions, an everyday calculator these days has more computer power than what those shuttles had. It just depends on how its used.
 
TiagoC said:
Hi to all again, i made a thread like this like a month ago or so, but anyway this is still on the same subject but with a different sort of question, so i was reading the faq of halflife 2 on this great site, and by the way congrats on the GOLD anouncement (if its already a concrete fact and verified by valve that is).

So my question is this, im quoting :

" Will I be able to play Half-Life 2 on my X-Box? What about my PlayStation 2?

You would be better off buying it for the PC first of all. The X-Box version is completed but it won’t be released until after the PC version. As for the PlayStation 2 and other consoles, nothing has been set in stone yet, but Valve has hinted that we may see it on the PlayStation 2. "


It says the xbox version is completed along with the pc version? where did this information came from? Is it true? Im hoping it is because these are good news, can anyone from the site, or the person that wrote the awesome faq enlighten me on this matter.

Thanks a bunch, once again.
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Right now, there is currently no screenshots or videos of the xbox version. I doubt they will make an xbox version. If they do it will be at least a year after they release hl2 for PC. Second, Xbox version will look bad compared to PC. third, the xbox has a 500 or 700mhz processor when hl2 requires a 1.2 GHZ processor. Xbox really won't be able to handle hl2 and i really truely doubt halflife2 will come to the xbox!





Oh, and whoever said there IS an XBOX version. Please show the source of information where you found that.

In conclusion There is no information about an xbox version of Half-Life 2 even close to being done[/edit]
 
ViolenceJack said:
Its funny really as HL2 is optimized for ATI and the XBox has a GF3 in it.
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Have you seen the Xbox 2's processor?

3.5GHz triple core 64-bit PowerPC.

It's amazing.

Sorry to be a bit off topic. The graphics chip looks good too :)
 
I beg to differ - Im not much of an xbox fan but from what I've see and heard - they did a stunning conversion of far cry for it ? -
 
Pauly said:
Right now, there is currently no screenshots or videos of the xbox version. I doubt they will make an xbox version. If they do it will be at least a year after they release hl2 for PC. Second, Xbox version will look bad compared to PC. third, the xbox has a 500 or 700mhz processor when hl2 requires a 1.2 GHZ processor. Xbox really won't be able to handle hl2 and i really truely doubt halflife2 will come to the xbox!

Oh, and whoever said there IS an XBOX version. Please show the source of information where you found that.

In conclusion There is no information about an xbox version of Half-Life 2 done or even in progress.
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Heh, actually it was confirmed by Valve that HL2 will be coming out for the XBOX.

Do a quick search.
 
vegeta897 said:
Heh, actually it was confirmed by Valve that HL2 will be coming out for the XBOX.

Do a quick search.
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Do you have a link? Like an official press release? I remember valve saying they were going to do an xbox version, but that was like in July 2003
 
Pauly said:
Do you have a link? Like an official press release? I remember valve saying they were going to do an xbox version, but that was like in July 2003
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There you go! Just because it is old news doesn't mean its not true...

Like I said, do a SEARCH. The forums SEARCH function.

Most of you guys REALLY need to use that button more often.
 
vegeta897 said:
There you go! Just because it is old news doesn't mean its not true...

Like I said, do a SEARCH. The forums SEARCH function.

Most of you guys REALLY need to use that button more often.
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JimmehH said:
Have you seen the Xbox 2's processor?

3.5GHz triple core 64-bit PowerPC.

It's amazing.

Sorry to be a bit off topic. The graphics chip looks good too :)
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Isnt the Xbox 2 just a PC though kind of like the phantom.
 
ViolenceJack said:
Isnt the Xbox 2 just a PC though kind of like the phantom.
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Not as much as the original Xbox. It shares more in common with an Apple Mac than a PC although the arcitecture is different in key areas. It won't be as easy to port games with this I don't think.

Although XNA and the Windows Graphics Foundation might help in that regard.
 
half life 2 will not be released for the xbox. that may have been their plan last year, but i guarantee things have changed by now. xbox2, maybe.
 
But thats the thing, if its supposed to be on xbox2 why is it "completed"??? lol I know i wont be getting a straight response for sure but what the heck, thanks again for all your help.
 
TiagoC said:
But thats the thing, if its supposed to be on xbox2 why is it "completed"??? lol I know i wont be getting a straight response for sure but what the heck, thanks again for all your help.
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Who are you quoting for the "completed" info I'd like to see that. I sincerely doubt it'll be made for Xbox...GF3 and <1Gig processor....I doubt HL2 would look at all good on that. Just get it for PC you'll do a lot better...besides FPS suck on console. Halo was like the only half decent one, and it was only considered that good because it was so much better than other console shooters. Compared to computer shooters it was crap.
 
Pauly said:
Right now, there is currently no screenshots or videos of the xbox version. I doubt they will make an xbox version. If they do it will be at least a year after they release hl2 for PC. Second, Xbox version will look bad compared to PC. third, the xbox has a 500 or 700mhz processor when hl2 requires a 1.2 GHZ processor. Xbox really won't be able to handle hl2 and i really truely doubt halflife2 will come to the xbox!





Oh, and whoever said there IS an XBOX version. Please show the source of information where you found that.

In conclusion There is no information about an xbox version of Half-Life 2 even close to being done[/edit]
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THERE IS GOING TO BE AN XBOS VERSION AND IT IS WELL ON THE WAY
WHY WONT PEOPLE LISTEN
jeezzz
it will be able to handel, why, here you are-
Lo-res Dont need as much rendering power
Lo-res equals Lo-res textrues- dont need much ram
Lo-res equals short viewing distance- object far away dont need as much rendering power as above
No operating system- less ram and processing power needed

This is why pc games work on low power cosoles

EDIT see scan- i hope this dosnet count as copyright, look at pic first before removing please
 
HL2 Xbox Version

Lol, there are alot of PC biased people in this forum. Think about it - if the Xbox is so slow compared to PC standards these days, then how is it able to runs games like Halo, Halo 2 , Doom 3, Ninja Gaiden, Chronicles Of Riddick and many, many more graphically intense games without any problems at all?

Many people have said this MANY times, but comparing the Xbox and a PC is futile because the Xbox has games Made for it, for that ONE specific hardware config and also doesnt have to compete with windows for processing power and memory, where as the PC does. There is an box version, and it will probably be running in DX8 with a few effects disabled in order to run glitch free on the Xbox, but it will still be awesome none the less.

I own both an Xbox and a PC (2.8ghz P4 9800 Pro) so dont think that im biased, it's just that some of you should see what the Xbox is capable of before making judgements about what it can and cant do.

Just my two cents.
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000A1OS2/pd_ka_1/026-4771203-5750048

And to the people saying hl2 will run or look like crap on an Xbox you dont know a single thing abotu hardware. Whilst the xbox is a DX8 based machine with a graphical processor based on the GeForce 3 that graphical processor has twice the rendering pipelines that an AGP Geforce 3 has. Also if you run the HL2 stress test on an nvidia based DX8 card there is visually hardly any difference from DX9. From what i can see the only difference is that the bump mapping is slightly smoother on the walls and the water ripple effect isnt as pronounced on DX9. I actually prefer the water ripple effect on DX8. Suprisingly the HL2 VST runs rather well on my GF4ti which is essentially a speed bumped GF3. I achieved 52fps the last time i ran it and that was at 1024x768 resolution. You have to remember that the Xbox has a native resolution of 640x480 so therefor could probably run just as fast if not faster.

You also have to try and remember that the Xbox is a dedicated gaming machine which can run games better that a PC with specs twice as good. Halo runs great on an Xbox whilst on my gf4 based system it sometimes dies down to as little as 15 frames a second indoors during the pixel shader heavy indoor scenes.
 
...forgot one thing also... Because a DX8 card doesnt have to render as many effects as a DX9 based card per frame DX8 cards can run faster than equivalent speed DX9 cards in most cases. Strange but true....
 
With Xenon supposedly coming out in the U.S next year it wouldn't suprise me if it gets moved across, it wouldn't be the first game its happened to.

Also that FAQ is old so how the hell could the Xbox version have been complete when the p.c version it was being ported from wasn't?
 
The graphics in Halo were crap at least for PC standards and it was ported very badly. Not only did the graphics look crap but for some bizarre reason you needed a really good PC to run it. Plenty of games games came out on PC before Halo that looked better and ran like 100x better.

firestorm2yk said:
Lol, there are alot of PC biased people in this forum. Think about it - if the Xbox is so slow compared to PC standards these days, then how is it able to runs games like Halo, Halo 2 , Doom 3, Ninja Gaiden, Chronicles Of Riddick and many, many more graphically intense games without any problems at all?
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Because there quality is lowered so they run without problems. There not going to set the games out the same as PC because if its got problems its got problems and no one will be able to play it.
 
ViolenceJack said:
The graphics in Halo were crap at least for PC standards and it was ported very badly. Not only did the graphics look crap but for some bizarre reason you needed a really good PC to run it. Plenty of games games came out on PC before Halo that looked better and ran like 100x better.



Because there quality is lowered so they run without problems. There not going to set the games out the same as PC because if its got problems its got problems and no one will be able to play it.
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Look at the scan of the magasine. It sais HL2 is working NOW with high detial, even with a decent framrate.
 
Kristafon said:
Look at the scan of the magasine. It sais HL2 is working NOW with high detial, even with a decent framrate.
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No it doesnt. Read it again, including some of the stuff that was deleted badly. This person doing that article thought it looked like HL2 running on max detail. Maybe he could answer me how the DX9 features were running. Basicly all he was saying is it looked good or he was taking the piss. Maybe the full article would help.
 
What article are you guys talking about if you dont mind?


edit- nevermind got it now
 
sigh, when will you people understand that the core specific hardware specs are not a bottleneck to a console systems power.

AT.

ALL.

It angers me sometimes when I come on here to debate about how the X-Box could quite indeed handle HL2, as long as the core design team wasn't terrible.

Do a search for the old debate topic in which I went on for 20 pages about how the Gamecube and X-Box can be compared to top tier pc systems, when in the hands in a talented development team.

You do NOT look at the cpu/gpu etc and say OMG it can't run it. There are about 100 more factors involved.

Again, you do not look at the core specs and say if a system can handle a pc game "port" or not. Consoles do not work like pcs, at all. There are so many alg. propeties, render agents, and code paths that can be used to create nearly anything you have in mind.

It's just like the old debate about how the Gamecube has shown the most power out of all of the console systems at the moment. Factor 5, impressive company. People don't seem to believe that either just because the X-Box has a higher base core of specs. This is coming from people with zero cpu science field experience, and almost little 3D render path code experience.
The amount of polygons, T/L shader effects, and env mapping put into those Rogue Leader games is freaking amazing.

I've worked with both GC/XBOX DXL kits and you can indeed produce nearly anything visually on par the current top tier pc games. Consoles use a lot of tricky code paths to render portals, scale objects, and even float operations in and out of the gpu and cpu.

Anyways....off topic now.

Again, as someone who is indeed in the gaming industry, it angers me to find time and time again somebody who says X system cannot handle Y game because of the spec traits.

*Turns into the hulk*

Ok my rant is finished. I havn't slept in about 36 hours. I apologize for any errors in my writing.
 
ViolenceJack said:
No it doesnt. Read it again, including some of the stuff that was deleted badly. This person doing that article thought it looked like HL2 running on max detail. Maybe he could answer me how the DX9 features were running. Basicly all he was saying is it looked good or he was taking the piss. Maybe the full article would help.
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Run hl2 VST in both DX8 and DX9... visually they are VERY similar indeed. DX9 effects just looks a little smoother...
 
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