anti-games activists at it again

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Violent game furor


"You may have thought "Grand Theft Auto" was the last word in video game violence.
Think again.

The latest in shoot-'em-up video game technology, "25 to Life," allows players to attack police with an arsenal of Molotov cocktails, broken bottles and baseball bats. When weapons fail, players make strategic moves using civilians as human shields."


"It's the worst in a series of violent and gruesome games that lower the common denominator of decency," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who is trying to block the game from hitting stores in September.

"25 to Life" makes "other controversial games like 'Grand Theft Auto' look like 'Romper Room,'" Schumer said.


"It's outrageous that a company like this would try to desensitize our children," Lynch said.



funny, according to this the game is rated M



stupid mother's typical response:

"But concerned mom Tori Cage, who was shopping with her 9-year-old son, Dquan, said the game should never hit store shelves.

"They should ban them totally," said Cage, 27, of Maywood, N.J. "


idiot, it's rated Mature ...your kid wouldnt be able to play it for another 9 years






more fear-mongering:

"The game, he said, is likely to "produce cowards that will hide behind a gun."



when will parents take responsibility for what their kids are playing?
 
CptStern said:
when will parents take responsibility for what their kids are playing?

The day Hulk finds out the Invisible man is in fact humping his wife.

or whatever
 
when will parents take responsibility for what their kids are playing?
When all games help kid with Math and English and well overall school.
 
boy that invisible man has big ...errrrr ....shoes to fill
 
CptStern said:
boy that invisible man has big ...errrrr ....shoes to fill
LOL.


It would be funny if one of these mom's who bought the M rated game then railed about how bad it is desensitizing her son got charged with endagering her child or something via it ;p
 
I completely agree ...if a parent bought their kid a bottle of booze, the cops would have her in cuffs in no time ..yet parents still buy their kids inappropriate games ..it's THEIR fault
 
heh, I just noticed that one of the select kids they quoted in the article was named Jesus. :p


But yeah, it's funny how they conveniently avoid the fact that it's rated M for mature (17+). These kind of games are the equivalent to a porno movie. It's not for kids.
 
I think Mrs. Cage has other things she needs to worry about for little Deekwan, like rap music.
 
Foxtrot said:
I think Mrs. Cage has other things she needs to worry about for little Deekwan, like rap music.
and drugs, gangs, peer pressure, and most of all rap music again.
 
A True Canadian said:
heh, I just noticed that one of the select kids they quoted in the article was named Jesus. :p


But yeah, it's funny how they conveniently avoid the fact that it's rated M for mature (17+). These kind of games are the equivalent to a porno movie. It's not for kids.
Jesus is actually a pretty common name here. (Hay Zeus not Jee Zus :p )
 
more quotes:


Daniel Donovan, Staten Island D.A.: "This is not a game. This is a teaching tool, to teach young, impressionable minds that there are rewards for criminal activity and for killing our police officers."


wow, and all this time I was playing games for fun, when I should have been training for a life as a criminal


"Senator Charles Schumer, (D) New York: "The standards are lower and lower and lower until we have no standards at all."


bombing a country back to the stone age is ok, but god forbid we play demoralising games


http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_061905_videogame.html
 
After visiting the official I site I understand thaat the game allows you to paly both as Law Enforcment and the criminals, its screenshots are not that impressive and if I understand correctly its coming out for PC which means I might get it if its reviews are good.

They are probubly giving this game a 75% boost in sales at least.
 
25 to Life sounds like a cool game -- just keep it away from the stupid people, and will be fine.
 
Doesn't suprise me. Parents who should be fixing the problem go out and blame the companies that make the games...they know that it's their resposibility to show their children what they can see or do.
 
yo stern since you have kids and stuff maybe you should be invited to some kind of interview. no body could take youre arguments down Im sure. ever contacted one of these wacko groups?
 
Some people just arent going to understand games. I've killed thousands of nazi's, vietcong, terrorists, american soldiers, civilians, old ladies, animals, blew up hundreds upon hundreds of vehicles, beheaded cripples with shovels, and liberated france dozens of times.

Am I a worse person because of it? Most of these games I've played well below their rating, and I've never killed another person. This is just a huge, knee-jerk reaction from the extreme moral groups, and not so surprisingly, chuck schumer.
 
These people just want something to blame because thet can't handel the fact that some people are assholes that shoot eachother.
 
Lemonking said:
yo stern since you have kids and stuff maybe you should be invited to some kind of interview. no body could take youre arguments down Im sure. ever contacted one of these wacko groups?


the guy is a senator ...it's not a wacko group. Their members include Hilary clinton and joseph lieberman ...the gaming community needs to wake up and take a stand against these groups before it's too late
 
try to resist at playing the partisan game ...I dont care who it is
 
I don't know if these relate, but this reminds me of that kid that died in a Disney land ride, and so many people suddenly got into the mindset of "OH my God! All Rides Must Be Bad! The Warning Signs need to be bigger to grab our attention!" Everyone was mad that the warnings were not attractive enough to catch thier eye, so it wasn't thier fault that they didn't read them. Jesus people, its your responsibility to consider the warnings if you do something. If a parent sees a game endorsing Sex, Killing, Drugs, and little animals getting punted over a fence. (The highlight of any game.) Don't get it for you freakin kid.
 
Our societs has worse issues to solve, PC entertainment is hardly an issue.
 
What really annoys me is that the major anti-games activists have no understanding whatsoever of the industry they are so opposed to.
 
Who here has got good writing knowledge...emm...Stern! let's all make some good arguments gather them together and send them to a big and respected newspaper house (Times,...or something)! the thing is that the letter must be really well composed and fluent...! what do you say? wee need to stand up, Stern's right!


->adult games are like adult videos, if handeled imprudently, you may eitherway become a psychopath!


the text must at least be 250-300 words long!
 
I still find it funny that people will accuse games of desensitising the youth when alot of what goes on in games is nothing compared to some of the things on TV. Imparticular a tv show down here called "Big Brother Uncut" which is pretty much just hardcore nudity on free-to-air TV. Last week they apparently showed a couple having sex on the show, and for some reason, after 5 years of this show airing on tv, now they begin paying attention to it.

Christ, at least video games are interactive and more social then sitting infront of the T.V. watching endless reruns.
 
more reporting of the brouhaha surrounding 25 to life:


"Not only is Schumer urging retailers not to sell the game, but he is also asking that Sony and Microsoft end its licensing agreements with Eidos. "Little Johnny should be learning how to read, not how to kill cops," Schumer said. "The bottom line is that games that are aimed and marketed at kids shouldn't desensitize them to death and destruction."

gamespot



if little Johnny cant read at the age of 17 (the game is rated Mature) then there's a bigger problem besides playing violent video games


this guy just makes my blood boil ..wtf? is he an idiot or is it just scare mongering? the game is rated MATURE ...little johnny's parents shouldnt be buying him the game



jverne: I'm more of a researcher than a creative writer, although I'd be happy to research, compile and edit any material that could be used to defend the gaming community against this witch hunt
 
Foxtrot said:
I think Mrs. Cage has other things she needs to worry about for little Deekwan, like rap music.
:dozey:
 
CptStern said:
"Not only is Schumer urging retailers not to sell the game, but he is also asking that Sony and Microsoft end its licensing agreements with Eidos. "Little Johnny should be learning how to read, not how to kill cops," Schumer said. "The bottom line is that games that are aimed and marketed at kids shouldn't desensitize them to death and destruction."

this guy just makes my blood boil ..wtf? is he an idiot or is it just scare mongering? the game is rated MATURE ...little johnny's parents shouldnt be buying him the game

jverne: I'm more of a researcher than a creative writer, although I'd be happy to research, compile and edit any material that could be used to defend the gaming community against this witch hunt
wow, funny that my brother hasn;t really heard of this game, even though they say they're marketing it to kids, hell I've barely heard about it and I'm an adult
this is just more parents looking to blame anything other than themselves for their kids behavior, they do it with music, movies, and games
it is funny how everyone lobbying against games has probably never played a single one of the games they talk about in their life, they just get a blurb on it and go argue about it in congress, though sadly I think its that way about a lot of issues including healthcare and social security
and really, they're only hurting themselves, i mean, i know if i see a congressman talk badly about games I'm certainly not going to vote for them, cause they don;t represent me
 
I agree ....but it's alarmist language like this:

"This is not a game. This is a teaching tool, to teach young, impressionable minds that there are rewards for criminal activity and for killing our police officers."



that freaks out the soccer moms and religious zealots of this world ...that's all they see
 
CptStern said:
I agree ....but it's alarmist language like this:

"This is not a game. This is a teaching tool, to teach young, impressionable minds that there are rewards for criminal activity and for killing our police officers."

that freaks out the soccer moms and religious zealots of this world ...that's all they see
yeah, i know, they have a great way of talking about something they know nothing about and sounding educated, damn politicians, the whole lot should be forced to play every single game ever made, including daikatana.... on second thought, maybe not daikatana and barbie riding club, they may ban games just for spite then
 
I loved barbie riding club ...I always wanted to play a rich little uber-white princess who exploits horses for kicks :)
 
CptStern said:
I loved barbie riding club ...I always wanted to play a rich little uber-white princess who exploits horses for kicks :)
and i loved daikatana, it was great for..... errr..... ummm...... killing frogs and.... ehhhh....mosquitos.... yeah, it was just that good
 
What we should do is violently storm the white house with guns and bombs and stuff. That'll definately get our point across that none of us are raving violent lunatics!
 
What is it with the kids-shouldn't-play-violent-video-games attitude anyway, is a 12-year old going to be any more inspired by a video game to go on a mass-murdering rampage than a 17-year old? I can't watch half the movies I want to because I'm underage, unless I ask my cousin (she studies in Canada) to buy the dvd for me. I can't even buy the dvd locally since they censor all dvds to PG-level (serious). I'm fed up with this age discrimination.
 
this guy just makes my blood boil ..wtf? is he an idiot or is it just scare mongering? the game is rated MATURE ...little johnny's parents shouldnt be buying him the game

Stern ... that was a moment of PWN.
 
CptStern said:
jverne: I'm more of a researcher than a creative writer, although I'd be happy to research, compile and edit any material that could be used to defend the gaming community against this witch hunt


great, i'll see if i can get anyone to write!?
 
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