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[Matt]

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Have a look at this list texan death row inmates and thier final statements before execution...

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/executedoffenders.htm

Whilst there's a lot of pleading for forgiveness, apologising to the families and prayers, some of thier last statements are truly unsettling. What i find most disturbing is that the odd one or two protest thier innocence of the crime they are convicted for right up to the very end. This is one reason why i believe prisoner execution is wrong. How can you be 100% sure of a persons guilt? I wouldnt be suprised if at least one innocent person a year is executed in the USA.

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One of the reasons I'm very glad we don't have death as a punishment in sweden.

There's always a big amount of innocent prisoners executed, but apparently that's something the big death sentence states in USA can risk to "send the bad guys to hell"..
 
Uhm... I don't know... even if they were criminals...
 
Pretty intresting...why idoes Islam seem to be so popular in american prisons?...(maybe ive been watching to much Oz ;))
 
h00dlum said:
Pretty intresting...why idoes Islam seem to be so popular in american prisons?...(maybe ive been watching to much Oz ;))
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maybe because its a religion that is more tolerant and makes more sense than christianity...
 
Time to look up some of the crimes. I bet these people did some pretty horrid things.
 
"I deserve this. Tell everyone I said goodbye."
Fair enough.

Its pretty interesting though, doesnt make many of them seem like hardened criminals.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Time to look up some of the crimes. I bet these people did some pretty horrid things.
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Most of them yes.... but i garuntee you some of those executed are innocent of the crime.
 
gh0st said:
doesnt make many of them seem like hardened criminals.
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They're all still humans.. well, except the crazy ones.. but yeah, still human.
 
[Matt] said:
Most of them yes.... but i garuntee you some of those executed are innocent of the crime.
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Doubting it in recent times.

It's happened, yes. The chance of it in today's age is very, very, very little. The death penalty is usually instilled when there is no hint from anyone at doubt of guilt, lest the people get life.
 
[Matt] said:
maybe because its a religion that is more tolerant and makes more sense than christianity...
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tolerant?
*thinks about WTC*



*edit* im still crying haven so so sad in a long time
 
I think there has only been a couple people that were wrongly convicted, which is terrible but shouldn't be a reason to get rid of the death penalty.
 
[Matt] said:
maybe because its a religion that is more tolerant and makes more sense than christianity...
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No.. heh, just no. To say Islam hasent had the trials and tribulations (such as Christianitys crusades, and so forth) that Christianity has had is absolutely absurd.

Mostly, its just outrageous that you would say one religion is better than another. Or that a RELIGION BELIEVING IN A SPIRIT NO ONE CAN SEE makes more sense than another.
 
Why... oh, why! Why does every 2nd discussion end up like this...

Marcus said:
Do you always have to be so combative?!
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:(
 
That's just downright depressing. I don't understand how taking the life of another in turn for the life or lives they supposedly took can be seen by anyone as anything more than a barbaric form of revenge. It's hardly just to inflict the same pain the victims felt on the families of the supposed killer- hardly just and hardly fulfilling for anyone. Humans are prone to flaw, we make mistakes. Our justice system is prone to flaw, it makes mistakes. We are not fit to deal out a punishment as final as death.
 
I once got in a fight with my dad about this I say its wron the
I say U CANT TOUCH A HUMANS LIFE
thats my opinion its really sad dont konow whta else I could say
 
So... in my opinion this list shouldn't be published; even if those people were criminals they're still human (as bliink said) and deserve at least their last left dignity. Plus the victim's relatives might find this too unpersonal for themselves.
 
Anyhow back on topic...

My primary reason why i do not believe in the death penalty is that i dont believe that its a punishment. When faced with the rest of thier lives in a cell with no chance of seeing the outside world again, many prisoners simply commit suicide. Here in the UK quite a number of notorious criminals have commited suicide rather than be incarcerated in prison. On new years day 1995 mass murderer Fred West was found hanged in his cell. on Jan 13th 2004 Mass murderer harold Shipman was also found hanging in his cell.

When we're faced with the tough life altering choice we choose the easiest option, the choice that will in the end offer us the best outcome. I know if i was facing the rest of my life looking at the four walls of a cell with a bucket to piss in I would not be able to stand it and try to find someway to end my life because that would be the easier option. Why do you think suicide watch is compulsory for prisoners convicted of serious enough crimes? In my eyes death isn't as much of a punishment as denying a person thier freedoms. When a prisoner is executed they simply escape what i regard to be a proper punishment....
 
i was thinking this was goign to have something to do with the new year.

i was going to say "i never did get to stab someone in the eye with a pencil : ("

damn misleading titles.

still, if i was goign to be executed, i would scream penis continuously until they did execute me.

for people being executed for horrendous crimes, they sound like the type of person you'd have over for a nice cup of tea.
 
When a prisoner is executed they simply escape what i regard to be a proper punishment....
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I disagree. Though I read this quite a lot times on this forums already... maybe there's a way to make those people 'normal'/sane again. Maybe after 10-40(?) years of prison they've changed. Of course this had to be assured somehow. Hmmmmm...
 
WTF attempted murder and they get executed? That's ****ed up.

In my opinion only people that go on killing spree's should deserve capital punishment, I mean how can some justice system take away someone's life for "attempting" to murder an FBI agent.
 
people on death row are regularly freed and decided innocent because the actual criminal has been found. its happened often enough...
this is sad
 
Eunoch said:
people on death row are regularly freed and decided innocent because the actual criminal has been found. its happened often enough...
this is sad
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Yeah I think the proscuters and dectives are on alot of pressure to find the suspect.

By reading the final statements you can see how much they have changed during their time spent at death row.
 
Thats some powerful shit. Thanks for sharing, Matt.

Texas is one f'd up state.
 
Recoil said:
I disagree. Though I read this quite a lot times on this forums already... maybe there's a way to make those people 'normal'/sane again. Maybe after 10-40(?) years of prison they've changed. Of course this had to be assured somehow. Hmmmmm...
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In the US we do have a system like that, even for murderes, but for it to be done right would cost WAY to much money, no country would have the money to support a system like that. All our system ends up doing is letting out people half way through their sentence, then they get sent back to jail after they commit another crime and then they get released again and commit another crime.
 
Yeah good ol' Texas!

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=56558
They hold the record!
And this, well, this is definately interesting...
guinnessworldrecords.com said:
CHECK THIS OUT…
When President George W. Bush was Governor of Texas 152 executions occurred in five years.
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hmmmm.... He did let one guy go though.
Henry Lee Lucas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lee_Lucas
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial2/lucas/
Of course this is a little too, controversial for this board, (should be in politics :)

Its all about who you believe I guess...
 
firstly i havent read the rest of the coments but wtc has nothing to do with islam but it isnt a very tolerant religion i can tell u that much ....
and btw christianity isnt a religion ..
anybody know why they go about writing the races of everyone :S ?
 
i say instead of doin death penalty they do what they did in clockwork orange, the lobatomy thing :rolling:
 
There was 1 guy there, who killed and raped a 7 year old girl....im very glad that he is no longer in this world.
And if it where up to me, every1 of his kind should be put to death, all though they shouldent sit 4 to long on death row, costs to damn much.

just my 10 cents of worthless knowledge.
 
Yeah, you'd think there'd be more "It was worth it..."
 
Yeah and I am suprised that the comments criticizing the Texas justice system were not taken out.
 
just my 2 cents for all those death penalty supporters:
don't you think, it's a little controversial to say:
"hey.. you killed someone! that's the worst crime you can ever commit. it's against everything we believe in!... .. we gonna kill you for that!"..
hmm.. doesn't sound very logical to me.
 
Mr-Fusion said:
I'm just amazed so many of them say sorry.
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They're scared shitless of dying, most of them are born-again Christians, and they don't care what people think of them. I'm sure that with the knowledge that you WILL be killed at a set date forces them to come to terms with themselves and realize that what they did was wrong.

Plus they don't want God to send them to hell, methinks.

shit, if I was on death row I'd find religion for sure
 
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