Apple announces iPhone

[tehsolace]

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

Watch the Keynote video if you want to see it in full detail and in action.

I think its revolutionary... the only things I don't like (and will probably keep me from getting one) is it costs more than smart phones do now ($499 WITH a 2 year contract) and its only available from Cingular.

 

[Kadayi]

You've witnessed the now famous Steve Jobs 'reality disortion field 'in full effect. Now don't get me wrong, the Iphone is an awesome(steve talk) step forward in convergance (the hailed merging of all handheld devices into one handy dandy gizmo). But personally I think I'll wait until it's in it's third iteration before considering pruchasing one. By then they will have trebled the memory size, turned it into a full on PDA, added a webcam to it and ironed out the unforeseen bugs that plagued the initial release

 

[Steven]

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[hungryduck]

You've witnessed the now famous Steve Jobs 'reality disortion field 'in full effect. Now don't get me wrong, the Iphone is an awesome(steve talk) step forward in convergance (the hailed merging of all handheld devices into one handy dandy gizmo). But personally I think I'll wait until it's in it's third iteration before considering pruchasing one. By then they will have trebled the memory size, turned it into a full on PDA, added a webcam to it and ironed out the unforeseen bugs that plagued the initial release

it already has a 2megapixel cam.

 

[Lucid]

Interesting.

 

[Raxxman]

4 gig is rubbish as far as mp3 players go nowadays.

 

[pomegranate]

4 gig is rubbish as far as mp3 players go nowadays.

But it's very good as mp3-playing phones go. 8 gig is superlative, and as good as any flash-based player gets.

 

[Kadayi]

it already has a 2megapixel cam.

Indeed it does, but only the truly retarded would believe that the images Steve showed on the phone demo were actually shot using it. To get picture quality of that colour richness you have to shoot in high range RAW format, 8 bit JPEG simply won't cut the mustard.

 

[pomegranate]

I'm not gonna bother watching through the keynote again, but I seriously doubt any photos shown on the iPhone were meant to have been taken by the phone itself - it would have been a demonstration of the photo library function, rather than the camera function. 2 megapixel is fairly reasonable for a cameraphone.

 

[CyberPitz]

Just heard on the news that Cisco is suing them for copyright infringment of the name iPhone. Lets expect the name "ApplePhone" or something now. \=

 

[pomegranate]

Nah, I think Cisco will settle for a big payout to let Apple use the name...

 

[Kadayi]

Cisco already have an Iphone product in service, it's being going for years. It's going to be an interesting lawsuit to say the least.

 

[DreamThrall]

yeah, but they're completely different products/services aimed at completely different markets... seems kinda shiesty to me to quibble over a name

 

[Kadayi]

I believe the product Cisco sell is a phone (hence the name Iphone) they have every right to defend their trademark/product accordingly. It's not a business option not to, if you set a precedent for abuse then others will use that to take further advantage.

 

[CyberPitz]

I believe the product Cisco sell is a phone (hence the name Iphone) they have every right to defend their trademark/product accordingly. It's not a business option not to, if you set a precedent for abuse then others will use that to take further advantage.

Pretty much...I think they said they released it early last year, though I'm not too sure. I understand why Cisco wants to stop them, because if Apple has the Iphone...then that will take ALOT of business from Cisco more than likely.

 

[DreamThrall]

because if Apple has the Iphone...then that will take ALOT of business from Cisco more than likely.

It won't take business away from Cisco because they aren't competing products. Its not like some exec is gonna be like HMM I NEED AN IP PHONE SOLUTION FOR MY CORPORATE OFFICES I THINK I'LL GET EVERYONE APPLE IPHONES LOL.

 

[pomegranate]

LOL. Unfortunately Apple have become notorious for 'defending' the names of their products from people giving other, totally unrelated products similar names. So, previous negotiations besides, Apple really would be getting what they deserve if Cisco choose to be arsey about this.

 

[CyberPitz]

It won't take business away from Cisco because they aren't competing products. Its not like some exec is gonna be like HMM I NEED AN IP PHONE SOLUTION FOR MY CORPORATE OFFICES I THINK I'LL GET EVERYONE APPLE IPHONES LOL.

It isn't just about product. It's about hits on the website. If they both have the same name, and a customer wants to find an IP phone, they will search for Iphone, see apples...and if Cisco isn't right there, most people will think, oh...well I THOUGHT someone else had it, but I guess I'm wrong, and forget about it. There's one person lost.

 

[DreamThrall]

It isn't just about product. It's about hits on the website. If they both have the same name, and a customer wants to find an IP phone, they will search for Iphone, see apples...and if Cisco isn't right there, most people will think, oh...well I THOUGHT someone else had it, but I guess I'm wrong, and forget about it. There's one person lost.

Anyone looking seriously looking for an IP phone solution isn't going to be looking at Apple. Cisco is a big enough name that they won't lose business because of search engine results like that.

 

[CyberPitz]

Anyone looking seriously looking for an IP phone solution isn't going to be looking at Apple. Cisco is a big enough name that they won't lose business because of search engine results like that.

You'd be amazed at how many people don't think that Apple and Cisco would have the same name for a product...they will see it's Apples product, think they ever heard wrong or saw wrong or something, and continue on their way to someone else that they KNOW has it and doesn't share the name.

 

[The Brick]

iFone.

 

[tehsolace]

You've witnessed the now famous Steve Jobs 'reality disortion field 'in full effect. Now don't get me wrong, the Iphone is an awesome(steve talk) step forward in convergance (the hailed merging of all handheld devices into one handy dandy gizmo). But personally I think I'll wait until it's in it's third iteration before considering pruchasing one. By then they will have trebled the memory size, turned it into a full on PDA, added a webcam to it and ironed out the unforeseen bugs that plagued the initial release

I agree. Plus, they'll have had to lower the cost to reach their target market's budget. After all... this gizmo is mostly going to appeal to the iPod generation, and it won't make it big if they don't sell enough...

 

[The Monkey]

4 gig is rubbish as far as mp3 players go nowadays.

Mine's 256 MB D:

 

[CyberPitz]

Mine's 256 MB D:

Yeah, that can do ya fine if what you want to listen to changes constantly...it's not like it's a hassle to put different music on it.

 

[The Monkey]

Yeah, that can do ya fine if what you want to listen to changes constantly...it's not like it's a hassle to put different music on it.

I've had mine for three years, so yeah, it's prolly time to change.

 

[<RJMC>]

say hello to the razr 2

 

[jondy]

hello

 

[DreamThrall]

You'd be amazed at how many people don't think that Apple and Cisco would have the same name for a product...they will see it's Apples product, think they ever heard wrong or saw wrong or something, and continue on their way to someone else that they KNOW has it and doesn't share the name.

Maybe, but the point is that the type of people that will be looking for something like Cisco's product will know the difference regardless.

 

[Asus]

That is a slick phone. I am weary of the touch screen since I prefer buttons for the feedback while using a phone. I'd have to really use it for awhile to see if I like it. There is some really good stuff in there. Although being a conversion device (all-in-one)it is 'bulky' and pricey as expected. I bet you will see more people with them after they come out with a couple newer versions.

Nothing I would buy though. If I want a phone I will just buy a phone that does it's 1 job well while being small and that will always have battery life (removable battery is a must for a trustworthy phone IMO). A device that is dedicated to doing 1 thing really well even if there may be other things included. Sort of like what people look for when they pick an Ipod, Zune, or Zen music player.

 

[CyberPitz]

Maybe, but the point is that the type of people that will be looking for something like Cisco's product will know the difference regardless.

I'm not denying the fact that it's different groups looking for it, but you're arguing the point of it not mattering at all. Why is it so hard for Apple to just get a name that isn't already in use?

 

[hungryduck]

I'm not denying the fact that it's different groups looking for it, but you're arguing the point of it not mattering at all. Why is it so hard for Apple to just get a name that isn't already in use?

because steve jobs gets what he wants

and they probably want continuity within their product lines.

 

[Asus]

I'm not surprised that Cisco is suing Apple. I mean look at how many times Intel (the CPU company) sues other companies that have 'intel' (as in short for intelligence, not referring to the CPU brand) somewhere in their name although they would be clearly different companies and in different industries.

I'm not denying the fact that it's different groups looking for it, but you're arguing the point of it not mattering at all. Why is it so hard for Apple to just get a name that isn't already in use?

because steve jobs gets what he wants

and they probably want continuity within their product lines.

What is going on here?! CyberPitz's post was at the bottom of the page and it was not ignored. :O

 

[Kadayi]

A corporation like Cisco is legally obliged to defend it's copyrights. This isn't even a matter for discussion, it's how the business world works. Apple records had to take apple computers to court over the issue of music sales because not to do so would effectively invalidate their own legal position with regard to their area of business. A judgement was made that Itunes was a media distribution system, rather than a music distribution system, and that decision becomes case law and sets a precedent for future legal actions of a similar nature. Apple Records weren't expecting to win, but they needed the judgement to clarify a position. Cisco are in the same sort of situation.

 

[The Monkey]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk[/YOUTUBE]

 

[CyberPitz]

I'm not surprised that Cisco is suing Apple. I mean look at how many times Intel (the CPU company) sues other companies that have 'intel' (as in short for intelligence, not referring to the CPU brand) somewhere in their name although they would be clearly different companies and in different industries.

What is going on here?! CyberPitz's post was at the bottom of the page and it was not ignored. :O

I know I was amazed! D: