Are you guys posotive that valve aren't just BS'ing us about the MP?>

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yah maybe the stupid old mods in SOURCE is all they have?

Ever stop to think if they really had a real MP for us they would have shown us it this E3 2004 just to win e3 2004 again?

i mean you can't seriusly think they will pull something out of their sleeves at the LAST MINUTE. when is the last time a game did that? never..its not smart.

So im convinced we wont be seeing a hl2 themed assault mode or ctf mode or atleast vanilla DM.

oh well.

Its a 80/20 chance. 80 to what i just said :D :D

sorry for being so pessemistic, but look at all the clues.
 
AFAIK the leak had a functioning DM mode. You will definitely see a DM mode.
 
I love your avatar. And Btw, don't worry, we will get a special MP.
 
yah what... 16 player DM without vehicles ?

meh. i really DO NOT think it is something special or unique. IF IT WERE gabe would have shown us it.
 
My myths article addresses this a bit too.
 
he's probabley bene told. afaik= as far as I know.

anway...

Ever stop to think if they really had a real MP for us they would have shown us it this E3 2004 just to win e3 2004 again?
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To win e3 with a multiplayer mode would require soemthing pretty special... why try and make a big thing outta something like hldm or hlctf then?
 
I thought it wasn't so much a built in DM but i read that multiple players could join the same map and kill each other and. .. oh wait yeah thats dm.
 
if they lied to us about MP id prolly kill valve employees: SHOW ME YOUR LEADER!
 
I actually tend to agree with the thread poster, if Valve really had some amazing MP mode then we would know about it. It makes no sense at all to hide it from us, because these days MP sells games. I think Valve were hoping we would all go nuts about the source mods, and now that they realise it's a complete cop out they are keeping their mouths shut hoping we wont realise.

Thats just a theory but I think it's probably right.
 
Perhaps they planned it like this to give modders the chance to create something great? Now i know the beta has a very limited dm mode, but i have a feeling that has been scrapped.

They got the source ports, Team Fortress 2, then CS2 and Dod2 way down the track. I think that's enough multiplayer!
 
Hmmmm, it would be interesting if it is....Team Fortress 2. Oh but we all know TF2 will be sold seperately you say? Well i wouldn't be too sure about that
 
I don't see what's so wrong about source mods. Infact I prefer they make it easy for other people to make the mods instead of themselves. Thats what made Half-Life good, the multiplayer sucked (refering to HLDM and the OPF multiplayer). The mods are what made it good, and thats what I am looking forward too. I could careless about some multiplayer that came with it besides the ones converted to source.
 
the sheer fact that its an FPS PC game must merit there to be some multiplayer. I mean the only inclination we have to beleive that the SOURCE ports would be its only multiplayer mode is speculation and speculation alone. When oyu really think about it, we know only Veerry little. I mean we've seen all of the supporting characters maybe once. All we know about D.O.G.G. is based on a 3 second spot in a shaky cam video. Heck we haven't even seen the bottom half of the G-man maybe.

The point is that what we know is the mere tip of the iceberg, so it is pointless to becker about anyhting.
 
I agree with Psycho. Sure, multiplayer was good in HL, but the ports were what made the multiplayer so great (in my opinion.) I for one am MUCH more excited for the single player aspect of the game, and wouldn't be bothered at all if no MP was included. But to each his own.
 
If there is a DoD source, I'm happy. A NS Source would be golden, but that's up to Flayra, not Valve.
 
It cant be very hard to dump all the cool stuff weve seen about HL2 SP into an otherwise mediocre DM....thats all they did for HL.
 
Surely a DM mode, no doubt. TF2 is also a possibility but if not included, then hopefully it will be released a few months after.
 
But they cant rely on mods to make it strong like they did with HL1... that's slack. TF2 is going to be freaking awesome though.
 
A lot of people think TF2 will be like TFC or it wont live to it's expectations, most people who are saying this know nothing about it. I know for a fact this game could possibly be ranked #1 online passing counter-strike or atleast coming in close, that's for sure. Mark my word, id bet my life on it. Everything that has been mentioned about TF2, features....etc...are something everyone is going to want, with the gameplay being a huge factor with teamplay and being coperative.
 
That's right. :)
But right now deathball for ut2k4 has my attention... hehe.
 
What I've always said about TF2 is that we have absolutely no idea what to expect. TF1 was, compared to modern MP games, pretty darn generic: almost like the barest bones idea of class based MP with mostly CTF/control point gameplay. TF2 will obviously have to be a lot less generic, and have a lot of specific features and themes that will make it stand out. But from just TF1, we have no idea where that direction would be. Even the early media, which is all we do have, wasn't very forthcoming (sounded a bit like Natural Selection only with Marine v Marine and less of a RTS focus), and that was five years ago and another engine: who knows where they have taken it now.
 
We are all debating about what kind of MP it will have. But take a step back and think how weird it is that we even have to wonder about this. Why would any company keep a major portion of their product a secret until launch? I'm not talking tech specs or code or special sauce or anything normally proprietary. Just regular features. It's like Ford saying we have this great new car and it has a really fast engine, but we aren't going to tell you the horsepower until right before it's released and hopefully you've ordered one already. It's mindboggling. No legitimate company could get away with this. This thing is so hyped that Valve is going to have to come up with the most revolutionary game, SP and MP, in the last five years, at least, or it will be considered a failure. Even if it's a great game. But then, you already knew that, didn't you?
 
I quote from a old interview in the PC Gameplay:
Pcgp: I now know that there will be a Multiplayer part, was MP important to you?
Gabe Newell: Yes ofcourse, the multiplayer portion (?correct word?) is one of the reasons why the original Half-Life became so succesfull. We will fully support the modcommunity and there will be plenty of new multiplayermodes and maps but I can't reveal much of that now. But you can be sure that it will all be included
This is what he said (translated duh). I am sure some people with the PC gameplay can check it out as well..Edition 88 page 76.
 
he also said hl2 was commin sept30th 2003 during those days :D :D :D

i still think the mp will be old mods in Source.

i really wanted a hl2 themed assault!!!!!!!!!!
 
I agree with Gossoon, except it's more like Ford announcing that they are about to launch a car that will change the world, but not telling us if it's a sedan or coupe, 4 cylinder or V8, what the interior options are or how much it's going to cost.

I think it's fairly obvious that Valve have nothing up their sleeves for multiplayer, and they will continue to stall until the game is released, at which point the will hope like hell people will buy the game without realising that there is no new fancy MP mode.

If this is the case (which, admit it, is looking more likely by the day) then believe me, this game will not succeed. Doom 3 will sell many times better than HL2 if something amazing doesnt happen (and no, Valve, crappy old free mods that you didnt even make will not sell the game).
 
If HL2's MP is only shitty source mods and a future release of TF2, CS2 and DoD i'm going to be seriously pissed off.

I want MP in the HL2 universe, not another shitty WW2 shooter, not another shitty CS game and not TF2.

Sure I WANT TF2 I want it alot, I just don't want it as HL2's MP portion.

I hate both CS and DoD with a vengence, I think they're terrible games.

I'd be happy with DM, TDM and CTF gameplay modes AS LONG AS IT WAS WITHIN THE HL2 WORLD WITH THE HL2 WEAPONS AND MODELS.
 
and no, Valve, crappy old free mods that you didnt even make will not sell the game).
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You're probably fooling yourself there, given that one of those mods they didn't even make is CS, and another is DoD, and another is TF. All of which they technically DID make, because the people on those teams now all work at Valve.

Besides, I think they do have some sort of MP we haven't seen yet. Again, they kept saying prior to Sept. 30 that they wanted it to be a surprise. And they are still saying that, even though we now know about CS:S and the other ports. And Gabe did say "People are always asking us about multiplayer. Something we are doing..." This is implies that there are other things they are doing as well.
 
I think they will have something at least halfway cool for MP. They must realize the importance of having a full FPS - SP and MP. I just don't care for the way they've handled the info about it. I guess that applies to everything about HL2 anyway though.
 
I hate both CS and DoD with a vengence, I think they're terrible games.
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Heathen. DoD at least is totally awesome.
 
DoD isn't terrible... it's very fun if you WANT to play a WW2 shooter.

But I agree with you about needing a HL2 themed multiplayer. It makes no sense to the average consumer to have the source mods as the multiplayer. "Okay, I buy this game set in the future.. and then get a WW2 multiplayer game as the online part, that has nothing to do with the game? "
 
iamaelephant said:
If this is the case (which, admit it, is looking more likely by the day) then believe me, this game will not succeed. Doom 3 will sell many times better than HL2 if something amazing doesnt happen (and no, Valve, crappy old free mods that you didnt even make will not sell the game).
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I wouldn't be so sure. Doom 3, after all, only has 4 player generic multiplayer. Now i'd prefer HL2 generic multiplayer with up to 32 people.

Oh and DoD owns CoD any day of the week.

Also i'm really really, really really really hoping that HL2 multiplayer will be this. Resistance vs Combine in C-17 with Vehicles. That would totally kick ass. Besides, Gabe said the multiplayer was more/equally important then the single-player in his eyes so they've decided to make a kick ass multiplayer game as well as a kick ass singleplayer game. How could a generic deathmatch be just as fun as playing the single player game if it was crap and unoriginal?
 
Icewind said:
I quote from a old interview in the PC Gameplay:
Pcgp: I now know that there will be a Multiplayer part, was MP important to you?
Gabe Newell: Yes ofcourse, the multiplayer portion (?correct word?) is one of the reasons why the original Half-Life became so succesfull. We will fully support the modcommunity and there will be plenty of new multiplayermodes and maps but I can't reveal much of that now. But you can be sure that it will all be included
This is what he said (translated duh). I am sure some people with the PC gameplay can check it out as well..Edition 88 page 76.
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True? I hope so.
 
Styloid said:
True? I hope so.
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It's true that's for sure, he literally said it..

Also may I note, a *friend* of mine has the beta anddd it can easily host a multiplayer game.. I mean.. if the beta has it full will have it as well..
 
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