Beef with American TV censorship.

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If you haven't seen Vanilla Sky, there are some minor spoilers ahead.

If you remember, there is a scene where Tom Cruise is violently banging Cameron Diaz then choking her to death with a pillow.

There is also another scene where Tom cruise is having romantic sex with Penelope cruz in a wonderfully heartwarming moment, in which Cruz' nipples are blurred out in the TV version

I don't know about you, but I'm not sure what values the FCC is trying to promote. I mean, Tom Cruise's pecs are probably as big as Cruz' boobies, and his nipples no less disturbing, so why censor one and not the other? Why censor one at all? Their nipples! Babies suck on them! LOVERS suck on them, people who love each other.

Discuss.
 
It's free TV. Free.

They can't do anything on private bands. I never watch network TV except for sports. It's lame.
 
free tv means its accessible to anyone, including children. cable you have to pay for which makes it more the parents responsibility.

we dont want a bunch of moral degenerates like europe so we censor our nipples so our youngsters go smoke crack and sing retarded rap music instead of whacking it to some stupid movie with a dumb scientologist tool banging a dumb hollywood whore.
 
gh0st said:
free tv means its accessible to anyone, including children. cable you have to pay for which makes it more the parents responsibility.
Doesn't it cost money for power and for the tv? Or do kids have their own places now?

we dont want a bunch of moral degenerates like europe so we censor our nipples so our youngsters go smoke crack and sing retarded rap music instead of whacking it to some stupid movie with a dumb scientologist tool banging a dumb hollywood whore.
How is seeing a nipple, which is a natural part of every body, worse than seeing depictions of violene?
 
Nat Turner said:
Doesn't it cost money for power and for the tv? Or do kids have their own places now?


How is seeing a nipple, which is a natural part of every body, worse than seeing depictions of violene?
Objectifies people and lessens the meaning of intimacy. Violence is something that is ever present and is simply adapted to in our society.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Objectifies people and lessens the meaning of intimacy. Violence is something that is ever present and is simply adapted to in our society.

Isn't intimacy more a part of our society than violence? How does depicting it lessen its meaning?

Why does nudity necessarily objectify people?
 
Nat Turner said:
Doesn't it cost money for power and for the tv? Or do kids have their own places now?
doenst something like 85% of american homes have a tv and power? what a stupid argument. i bet a lot of those houses have bleach too. should those not have safety caps on them so kids dont take a big ol swill of it?
 
Nat Turner said:
Isn't intimacy more a part of our society than violence? How does depicting it lessen its meaning?

Why does nudity necessarily objectify people?
Well you know they probably could go through and have a discussion on each aspect to see if it's portraying it that way. It's easier just to blur a nip. You know what's there anyway. Satisfies enough people. If it wasn't, you'd have a much larger issue/uproar, it's a compromise.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Well you know they probably could go through and have a discussion on each aspect to see if it's portraying it that way. It's easier just to blur a nip. You know what's there anyway. Satisfies enough people. If it wasn't, you'd have a much larger issue/uproar, it's a compromise.

A compromise because people are too lazy to properly parent and make sure their kids are watching decent material?
 
This was on cable by the way.

gh0st said:
we dont want a bunch of moral degenerates like europe so we censor our nipples so our youngsters go smoke crack and sing retarded rap music instead of whacking it to some stupid movie with a dumb scientologist tool banging a dumb hollywood whore.

:D, you're silly.

Tom Cruise is hot btw. So is Penelope Cruz. I'd pay for Cruise & Cruz porn, but the CIA would probably ban it and torture me for saying this.
 
wait it was on cable?

what the **** nipples should run freely through the field of posies that is cable. maybe FX would show nipples though.
 
TheSomeone said:
This was on cable by the way.



:D, you're silly.

Tom Cruise is hot btw. So is Penelope Cruz. I'd pay for Cruise & Cruz porn, but the CIA would probably ban it and torture me for saying this.
If it was on cable it's not the FCC having anything to do with it, it's the channel censoring itself so it can say it's rated whatever for family.


IE: How comedy central usually censors itself, but past 1AM they uncensor everything. Thats not the government making them do it that way, that's the company doing it that way. They could be totally uncensored all the time if they felt to do so.


It's kinda like me markering over certain passages in a book, then selling it to you, then you getting mad about American censorship of books. It wasn't, I just made it that way myself. Hehe
 
I see rakurai, but that's a little bit besides the point. You said it yourself, "it's the channel censoring itself so it can say it's rated whatever for family," by censoring nipples?

How are nipples any less appropriate than violent sex?
 
TheSomeone said:
I see rakurai, but that's a little bit besides the point. You said it yourself, "it's the channel censoring itself so it can say it's rated whatever for family," by censoring nipples?

How are nipples any less appropriate than violent sex?

Because nudity = nipples. Or something.
 
Everytime the FCC has a tantrum and orders networks to pay a settlement of more money than I will ever see because of a word that was slipped, a nipple being shown or even implied sex, a part of me dies.

I wish the terrorists would target them instead.
 
How did the FCC know blurred nipples were my fetish?
 
TheSomeone said:
I see rakurai, but that's a little bit besides the point. You said it yourself, "it's the channel censoring itself so it can say it's rated whatever for family," by censoring nipples?

How are nipples any less appropriate than violent sex?
I dunno I like violence AND sex though myself. I'm just trying to explain why and stuff. lol.
 
TheSomeone said:
Still, why is nudity less appropriate than violent sex?

Because the violent sex is somewhat imagined unless you see the parts defined as nudity.
 
The really funny part is how we all know there are nipples there, and we all see Tom Cruise fondling those boobies, it's rather comical that whoever is responsible for censoring them thinks our souls would be any more tarnished by (gasp) nipples in a sex scene.
 
TheSomeone said:
If you haven't seen Vanilla Sky, there are some minor spoilers ahead.

If you remember, there is a scene where Comrad Badger is violently banging Cameron Diaz then choking her to death with a pillow.



I don't know about you, but I'm not sure what values the FCC is trying to promote. I mean, Comrad Badger's pecs are probably as big as Cruz' boobies, and his nipples no less disturbing, so why censor one and not the other? Why censor one at all? Their nipples! Babies suck on them! LOVERS suck on them, people who love each other.

Discuss.


Fixed for added realism
 
TheSomeone said:
The really funny part is how we all know there are nipples there, and we all see Tom Cruise fondling those boobies, it's rather comical that whoever is responsible for censoring them thinks our souls would be any more tarnished by (gasp) nipples in a sex scene.

It's just your everyday political correctness fanaticism. I wouldn't waste energy trying to understand it.
 
Emm DoubleEw (12:44:04 AM): What is it trying to protect young audiences from?
RosieWunThumb (12:44:06 AM): terrorism
RosieWunThumb (12:45:14 AM): cuz nipples undermine the fundamentals of western culture
RosieWunThumb (12:45:15 AM): so by blurring them out
RosieWunThumb (12:45:16 AM): it just shits on the terrorists
RosieWunThumb (12:45:24 AM): cuz you know that terrorists would love to see some titties
 
At the censorship office:
Assistant: Okay here is this scene where Tom Cruise and that spanish chick are naked, fondling each other, kissing, and obviously having intercourse
Chairman: QUICK, BLUR OUT HER NIPPLES, NIPLES O GOD NIPPPLLEESSS
 
You know TheSomeone, I think you put it best with

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I've seen more offensive sexuality on a fast food commercial. Nothing was blurred out, though I'm not complaining.
 
American TV just sorta sickens me in general. Its crazy censorship is just the lovely icing on the cake.
 
They blurred his nipple? Wtf? Damn that's insane. On Australian Tv not long ago they showed a fully naked woman at 6:30pm, but bluring a mans nipple is just insane.
 
Why would parents who won't alow children to see a single nipple let them watch a show with people have sex?
 
What, what? I don't watch tv. they don't show nipples on tv? bah. back to the internet... *rummages*
 
TheSomeone said:
If you haven't seen Vanilla Sky, there are some minor spoilers ahead.

If you remember, there is a scene where Tom Cruise is violently banging Cameron Diaz then choking her to death with a pillow.

There is also another scene where Tom cruise is having romantic sex with Penelope cruz in a wonderfully heartwarming moment, in which Cruz' nipples are blurred out in the TV version

I don't know about you, but I'm not sure what values the FCC is trying to promote. I mean, Tom Cruise's pecs are probably as big as Cruz' boobies, and his nipples no less disturbing, so why censor one and not the other? Why censor one at all? Their nipples! Babies suck on them! LOVERS suck on them, people who love each other.

Discuss.


this pretty much explains it






I like this explanation :E
 
^_^ stern.

Unfortuneatly, you're probably right. Some people need to reconsider their values.
 
TheSomeone said:
^_^ stern.

Unfortuneatly, you're probably right. Some people need to reconsider their values.

DAMN YOU! Stop opressing my lord and savior!
 
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