Black Mesa - nuked?

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I can't actually remember any part from Half-Life, Opposing Force or Blue Shift, when Black Mesa gets nuked, although, I sometimes hear about it here on the forums.
One thing I remember though is G-Man toying with a bomb in OP4, yet the explotion itself I have no memory of.
When exactly does Black Mesa get nuked? Do you even experience it in the game or is it just something you guys know for some unexplainable reason?
 
At the close of Opposing Force as you ride in the Osprey with the G-Man away from Black Mesa there's a sudden flash of light, and the G-Man mentions something along the lines of tying up loose ends.
 
Direwolf said:
At the close of Opposing Force as you ride in the Osprey with the G-Man away from Black Mesa there's a sudden flash of light, and the G-Man mentions something along the lines of tying up loose ends.
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OOOOHHH yeas thats it.. i heard it on another thread, but i couldnt remember AT ALL where it got nuked. i remember now. i thoiught it was in blue shit at first, as its the oly one i havent completed (one balck mesa experiment gone wrong is enough for me, two is pushing it, three is really quite repetitive) :)
 
Don't you see it on Blue Shift too?
 
I dont think so. On blueshift you teleport around a bit because you are stuck in some kind of limbo, but then once you get out of that, you end up just driving off.
 
Direwolf said:
At the close of Opposing Force as you ride in the Osprey with the G-Man away from Black Mesa there's a sudden flash of light, and the G-Man mentions something along the lines of tying up loose ends.
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and that flash is the same as the flash at the end of HL when you walk through G-mans portal.

I always assumed that was the flash where they teleported shephard away.

edit: OT, Murray where did you get that avatar? spitting image of Gordon.

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nope your right, at the end of OPfor they nuke (or at least they lead you to believe that they did) Black mesa.
I had the ending saved in steam :)
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
I dont think so. On blueshift you teleport around a bit because you are stuck in some kind of limbo, but then once you get out of that, you end up just driving off.
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yeah i found that really annoying. i started teleporting, shifted here there and everywhere and finally i stabilised. rubbed my hands thinking 'great, this is where the shit hits the fan and it gets really good', and it just said 'THE END'. spent the next half an hour trying to find the reciept so i could return the bloody thing.

but yeah, on topic, Black Mesa gets nuked at the end of OpFor.
 
true, it does get nuked. Its funny that there are hundreds of topics out there asking if you get to go back to Black Mesa. Why do these people want to go see a huge hole in the ground? Crazy... :laugh:
 
Special bonus mission:
Gordon dropped his glasses somewhere in Half-Life and has to go find them in Half-Life 2 somewhere in the rubble :)
 
Hehe. The reason that a lot of people think we may see Black Mesa again is two-fold: Gabe mentioned seeing familiar territory, and Black Mesa was a converted missle base. It's likely that there was in fact something left of the place, as it was surely designed to withstand a nuclear blast at some point.
 
I'd be surprise if there wasn't something left of BMRF.
 
Well we could send Gabe an email asking if Black Mesa got nuked or not. I don't think answering that question won't spoil the HL2 storyline.
 
It might have been made to widthstand a nuke from the outside, but it would be pretty hard to protect all the interior.
 
It would have to have been a fair few nukes, not just one: Black Mesa was a huge sprawling collection of complexes rather than one single lumped together facility. If there is a return to BM in the script then presumably it'll be one of the radioactive parts if a nuke was involved (...Gordon's luck).

I wouldn't read too much in OpFor anyway; it was Gearbox's work and may not be considered part of the official canon.
 
if BM got nuked then HL2 would have radiation problems all over the world
 
XenoSpirit said:
if BM got nuked then HL2 would have radiation problems all over the world
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LOL, even if a nuke explodes at the surface, the fallout isn't that bad, but this bomb detonated sub surface.
 
Op-For is official and it was one single tactical nuke. That's all you'd need anyway.
 
Aside from what's already been mentioned, isn't there a part in Opposing Force where you see the some Black Ops guys setting up a nuke in the back of a truck or something and when you kill them and stop the nuke from being arms, you head back the way you came and you see that the GMan is now there ensuring that the bomb is indeed armed. Or that might be a totally different game I'm thinking of.
 
XenoSpirit said:
if BM got nuked then HL2 would have radiation problems all over the world
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yeah, dude, chernobyl exploded, and we aren't all half-frogs, and test nukes are dropped all the time...

not to mention we dropped two on the japanese.
 
Who knows?

Yes, just to clear it up, you see and defuse the tactical thermonuclear warhead (with attached instructions on the underside of the lid I might add - "arm bomb and stand well back") that eventually blows up Black mesa - because a few minutes later the G-man re-arms it. Makes me sad playing HL again. Every scientist I save, every Barney I keep alive, every time I leave them in a room with some guns and ammo, saying "You'll be safe here. Farewell!" I'm lying to myself, because I know that chances are they'll all get nuked in the end anyway. Makes me cry....
 
Well Eli Vance made it out somehow. I wouldn't assume that only the people you play escape, its a large facility.
 
I now have a really big urge to go back to Black Mesa, or at least make a mod set in Black Mesa..

damn it ;(
 
Well Eli Vance made it out somehow. I wouldn't assume that only the people you play escape, its a large facility.
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Like I said. Chances are they won't make it. Considering the 'I'm staying here until it all goes away' attitude of most of the scientists, I'm convinced only a very small fraction of the BMRF staff got out. I do not doubt for a second though that some did escape. As for the soldiers, the military did evacuate (by osprey probably) but I suspect it was rushed, since hundreds of soldiers were left stranded in the facility (Shepherd being one of them, obviously). It's likely some of them escaped by commandeering trucks or tanks - I'm imagining a large squad ofsoldiers joining forces with scientists and makinghey're way out of the facility with a convoy of salvaged vehicles, about fifty armed scientists, Barneys and soldiers riding shotgun.
 
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