Black people, and "niggaz"

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Nothing like a humorous perspective to open a serious debate. Anyway, what do you think? Personally, since all races have their own equivalent, I can see how it's annoying for black people to have these people in a place like America where they're already a minority. Gives a crappy image.

A funny detail - On the subject of stereotypes, Dave Chappelle, for example, sees the stereotypical white person as a closet racist who loves 80s rock, you know, the typical Connecticut type white guy. The strange thing is, our real stereotype, ironically, is white people who pretend to be niggaz and/or criminals. You know, shave their head, walk around in baggy clothes, listen to rap music, lack basic manor, and talk like an idiot -- which is derived from the rap music. In essence, people who aspire to be criminals. But that's the funny thing, isn't it? It varies from country to country, but the basic principle is the same: You have to be an idiot and/or a criminal. And that leads me back to my point - I think it's funny that the stereotype black people have about whites is that of the sub-urban people with close ties to their dad, being racist, etc.
 
The moral is: no matter where you live all rap since the start of the 90s is shit. Don't listen to it.
 
You have to wonder where this is all going. A few decades ago, rock and roll was the music of the devil. The cause of all societal ills, bringer of evil. Now it's old man music.
So, if hip hop is gonna be old man music in 40 years, what the hell will the yoof be listening to then? Country and western?
 
Classical. They'll be rebelling to the sounds of Mozart and Strauss.
 
Ow my freakin' ears!

Hang on, it's Chris Rock - it's funny. Why on Earth do we need to analyse a comedic routine for answers to social and racial issues? It's an over exaggerated helping of observational humour.
 
Hmmm, think I'll just post an Omid Djalili clip next time someone brings up the middle-east or Islam ;)
 
Ow my freakin' ears!

Hang on, it's Chris Rock - it's funny. Why on Earth do we need to analyse a comedic routine for answers to social and racial issues? It's an over exaggerated helping of observational humour.

QFT


still trying to make heads and tails as to the point of this thread ..george bush doesnt like black people? or is it niggaz?
 
I hate black people, I love niggas.


I'M JUST KIDDING

Also, lol at "the rap music".
 
Well, as screaming and ranting as he is, he does have a point, there are lots of characteristics the lower class of black people that are actually harmful to all black people today, lower or upper class. One such tiny thing - The usage of the word "******", on which topic I found this very perplexing website: http://www.ineverusetheword******.com/

That's another thing about it: The "niggaz" use that word a lot, and a lot of people including upper-class blacks feel that it contributes only negatively, no matter the context, then on the other hand there are people like Chris Rock who just use it in a vernacular kind of way, which is what it's because today. To be honest, I'm somewhere between the sides, but I'm leaning against total disgust with the word in any context, because I hear this word being used casually, too. And it's NOT rare. It's really shocking to hear it now as a general word used refer to black people, by seeming normal people. Pretty unpleasant and unsettling. Lots of issues to discuss, this is one example. Anyways, indeed, there was a big controversy about rock & roll back then, but that is really different, isn't it? Because rap is a black thing, it's been a culturally black thing for a long time, but then again, you could argue the same for rock & roll. But rap IS different now. As said - After the 90s = Downhill. But rap has taken a major turn, unlike rock which has really just divided into so many sub-catagories. I think it's fair to say that rap, for another example, is just negative. Chris Rock has a bit on this negative turn, too.

But God help me, I still listen to a bit of it! Such a confusing issue.
 
he speaks truth.

JUST A NOTE:
WHERES SHARPTON?
Cramer does it and everyone's crazy, he does it, silence.
 
Well, as screaming and ranting as he is, he does have a point, there are lots of characteristics the lower class of black people that are actually harmful to all black people today, lower or upper class. One such tiny thing - The usage of the word "******", on which topic I found this very perplexing website: http://www.ineverusetheword******.com/

That's another thing about it: The "niggaz" use that word a lot, and a lot of people including upper-class blacks feel that it contributes only negatively, no matter the context, then on the other hand there are people like Chris Rock who just use it in a vernacular kind of way, which is what it's because today. To be honest, I'm somewhere between the sides, but I'm leaning against total disgust with the word in any context, because I hear this word being used casually, too. And it's NOT rare. It's really shocking to hear it now as a general word used refer to black people, by seeming normal people. Pretty unpleasant and unsettling. Lots of issues to discuss, this is one example. Anyways, indeed, there was a big controversy about rock & roll back then, but that is really different, isn't it? Because rap is a black thing, it's been a culturally black thing for a long time, but then again, you could argue the same for rock & roll. But rap IS different now. As said - After the 90s = Downhill. But rap has taken a major turn, unlike rock which has really just divided into so many sub-catagories. I think it's fair to say that rap, for another example, is just negative. Chris Rock has a bit on this negative turn, too.

But God help me, I still listen to a bit of it! Such a confusing issue.

Rap can be positive, negative or purely expressive. Like any other genre rap can be used to express a plethora of human emotions, you'd know this if you listened to a great deal of it. I suggest looking into artists like A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Sage Francis, Deltron, Getto Boys, etcetc. I think people need to realize that rap and hip-hop are merely a reflection a previously existing cultural beliefs. The more trashy hip-hop is just focused on the material aspect of the 'American Dream' women, cars and "bling". It's important that you dig deeper into the genre and discover the real meat and talent, it's well worth it.
 
Hang on, it's Chris Rock - it's funny. Why on Earth do we need to analyse a comedic routine for answers to social and racial issues? It's an over exaggerated helping of observational humour.

Observational humour -- witnessed in reality, retold with a humorous spin. Or is the spin humorous because it is, "happenin' yo."
 
I think it's fair to say that rap, for another example, is just negative.
In what way is Eminem's stuff negative? It's either funny, serious or boring. Eg- Sing for the Moment, When I'm Gone etc.

Rap can be positive.
 
His whole division and ideas of the diff. between lower class and upper class black people is good. Love the, "I take care of my kids" (Youre suppose to take care of your kids you dumb mofo LOL)

Chris Rocks
 
Parappa the Rapper is the best rap.
Ever.
 
sing for the moment is a cover.

Incorrect, it samples the song 'Dream On' by Aerosmith in its chorus and melody but the lyrics of the main verses are original. Aerosmith never had a song called "Sing for the Moment."
 
Incorrect, it samples the song 'Dream On' by Aerosmith in its chorus and melody but the lyrics of the main verses are original. Aerosmith never had a song called "Sing for the Moment."




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