Blue Shift on Steam?

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flangongle

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Hello all. I just did the whole Steam thing and am currently downloading what's available in the Silver Package. Thing is, in Valve's "back catalog", there's no Blue Shift! Will it be available, and is there anything else missing from Valve's back catalog?

Thanks.
 
Blue Shift is not available on Steam atm. Maybe later.
 
When they mean 'bacl catalog', they mean everything that is currently on Steam. Blueshift has never been on steam unfortunatly.
 
I think I remember someone saying that Blue Shift was on a slightly different codebase (or something), and would therefore need some work to port back.
 
Blue shift was developed by somone other than valve. I think it was gearbox.
 
Thing is that Valve also has (legal?) issues with Gearbox and thats whay it isn't on steam yet.
 
AJ Rimmer said:
Loooooooooooove blueshift.

VALVe has legal problems with Gearbox as well? Oh dear...
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No, they couldn't, because OF is available on Steam.
 
But that might of been before that had legal problems maybe? I don't know.
 
koopa said:
I think I remember someone saying that Blue Shift was on a slightly different codebase (or something), and would therefore need some work to port back.
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This is true, there where changes made to the engine that would present difficulties putting it on steam. They just havent gotten around to all that work, and I dont blame them.
 
slicktick said:
This is true, there where changes made to the engine that would present difficulties putting it on steam. They just havent gotten around to all that work, and I dont blame them.
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CS:S is a different engine and they didn't have too much trouble getting it on steam, now did they?
 
I think his point was that the tools built for porting hl mods might have difficulty (for whatever technical reasons) porting Blueshift.
 
Fizznix said:
CS:S is a different engine and they didn't have too much trouble getting it on steam, now did they?
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actually blue shift was a stand-alone product, opForce needed hl1 in order to run.
 
Your blueshift cd-key will work just like a regular Half-life cd-key on steam......

just found that out the other day :p
 
damm it i want it now Bs was really cool
they could at leaste use the HD pack for HL an Op4....
alder that sux
 
Fizznix said:
CS:S is a different engine and they didn't have too much trouble getting it on steam, now did they?
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That is the source engine in which all there new games will run on. It took them awhile to get that to run on steam, they have been working on it for awhile.
It would require either adding the blue shift engine to steam totally, which is alot of work, or modifying the hl1 engine currently on steam, which is alot more work than the first option. So it is just a large hassel.
So yeah, its not as easy as you might think it is. There isnt an import option in steam for engines.
 
blue shift used a modified HL1 engine - it had extra stuff like reflective floors and higher detail models and some other stuff i can't remember. so they have to add that stuff to Goldsrc (HL1 engine) or pull it out of BlueShift.

more likely it may get ported to Source - much more worthwhile if ur gonna port.

there is an entry about this is the FAQ at http://www.steampowered.com

EDIT: all the Goldsrc games on steam use the same exe- hl.exe. all the Source games use hl2.exe. - each gamedir has it's own copy, but it's the just a copy of the master version in the .gcfs i think.

another option would be to add the special blueshift .exe, but then u couldn't share settings and whatever (noticed all the HL1 games use the same video settings?)
 
It would be cool if bs was on steam.
 
Imho the tech problems are just a smokescreen, how hard can it be to let steam download the game and launch the exe to play it?
it has nothing to do with engine specs,
but probebly with gearbox not willing to give the sourcecode or something.

I recall a interview where there was spoken about the Valve vs Gearbox problems and if i remember right it has also something to to with Valve pulling cs:cz from them.

Steam is basicly nothing more like the old multiplayer services like TEN, Mplayer, KALI etc with some modern influences (a few from MMO's) like the ability to download and purshase options, ability to patch imediatly and influences from realtime contact tols like ICQ and MSN.

Technically you can run any game with steam if they are willing to add it to steam.
 
Umm.. Codename Gordon is on steam, and that's pretty far from thr HL1 engine or Source....
 
Blue Shift sucked. It was the most horrible game I have every played. I bet it in less than two hours and that was trying to take my time and enjoy it. It was a complete waste of money.
 
Pro[pH]et said:
Blue Shift sucked. It was the most horrible game I have every played. I bet it in less than two hours and that was trying to take my time and enjoy it. It was a complete waste of money.
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What?!







What?!
 
Pro[pH]et said:
Blue Shift sucked. It was the most horrible game I have every played. I bet it in less than two hours and that was trying to take my time and enjoy it. It was a complete waste of money.
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A waste!? You got to play as Barney The Security Guard! Thats crazy talk!
 
The Bait said:
A waste!? You got to play as Barney The Security Guard! Thats crazy talk!
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Exactly! How can you not love playing Barney?
Calhoun is numero 1!
 
AJ Rimmer said:
Exactly! How can you not love playing Barney?
Calhoun is numero 1!
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You couldn't buy Gordon a beer... ;(
 
I am just going to play Blueshift later. Fun, Fun, Fun.
The Thing said:
You couldn't buy Gordon a beer... ;(
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Heh, yea I wish you could do that :LOL:
 
The Thing said:
You couldn't buy Gordon a beer... ;(
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:( The number of times I tried running after that train at the start... I just can't catch him!
 
Its kinda funny when people say "BS" instead of "Blue Shift"

"BS Was such a cool game!!1"
"wtf theres a game called bull shit?"
 
pyroCow said:
Its kinda funny when people say "BS" instead of "Blue Shift"

"BS Was such a cool game!!1"
"wtf theres a game called bull shit?"
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The new Penn & Teller game?
 
Pro[pH]et said:
Blue Shift sucked. It was the most horrible game I have every played. I bet it in less than two hours and that was trying to take my time and enjoy it. It was a complete waste of money.
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It had the best ending off all 3 singleplayers tough :)
Or at least one I liked more :)
 
First of all, either post some evidence of this so-called "legal dispute" between Gearbox and Valve or don't spread around potentially damaging information like that.

Second of all, it's a bit more complex that people realize. Blue Shift not only runs on a modified version of the Half-Life executable, but those modifications are made to a damn near ANCIENT version of the Half-Life executable. Half-Life went through a MAJOR overhaul between versions 1.0.x.x and 1.1.x.x. They moved tons of stuff from the executable to the .dll files giving modders more control over their mods, and Valve added tons of new features. (Like the VGUI and voice communication) Blue Shift just plainly does NOT want to run in Steam in it's current incarnation; and people have been finagling it for ages.

Finally, someone asked if there was anything else that wasn't available from Steam but was based on the Half-Life engine. There's two things that come to mind... the first was a Total Conversion called "Gunman Chronicles," which originally started out as a mod but Valve and Sierra offered to publish it for them. It ran on the Half-Life engine, but 99% of the game was changed.. All new weapons; monsters and levels.. The storyline also had nothing to do with the Half-Life universe; involving a space marshal's fight against a madman planning taking over the world with an army of alien monsters.

The second was some new content Gearbox made for the PS2 version of Half-Life... Super High Definition models were made, which included things like moving eyes and facial expressions, along with even higher polygon count. The levels were modified to remove little quibbles (Like those "offices" from the beginning of the tram ride which had no doors and no glass on the windows..) and to add neat effects like arms on the HEV and Health kits that would move and "attach" to you. Finally, the PS2 version had a entirely new mission called "Decay" where you and a friend took on the roles of Dr. Gina Cross and Dr. Collette Green in a series of co-op missions involving an attempt to stop the invasion. (It ties into that sattalite you had to launch in Half-Life)

The former is possible we'll see on Steam, since the company who made it (Rewolf Software) is dead.. However, Vivindi might own the rights to it now, so then again it may be off limits. The latter is more problematic since it would involve downloading new levels for Half-Life; porting the models (Which ARE in a different format and include Length-of-Distance polygon reduction which normal Half-Life can NOT cope with (I've tried :D), and implementing a co-op mode for use with Decay.
 
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Put this in google.com
valve gearbox legal issues

The link to http://www.hl2*source.com doesn't work anymore and thats probebly where I got it from.

*edit* ok linking to other hl2 fansites doen't work ?
remove the * from that url :)
Its a dead site now anyway.
 
I think the reason that website is banned from being linked is because it tended to be full of crap. :D
 
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re Valve Gearbox legal probs - surely Valve are not gonna contract someone to make a mission pack for their game and let them own the changes to the source code?

and Codename Gordon is just a flash game. it all unpacks into the codename gordon dir in ur SteamApps folder. there's a lot more involved with Blue Shift - if they want to keep the content in .gcf files, they have to alter the code to make it use the Steam filesystem.

but yeh it could be done, i just don't think anyone could be bothered. .
 
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