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are there visable bullet wounds in CS Source? If not it would be a cool feature to have so you can see where you hit your enemies
 
No visible bullet wounds in the beta and I doubt they will add it. The only reason I can think of is that Valve are not to keen on violence and/or gore. Even though I see an increased amount of blood on the walls in the beta :|

Well like Valve always says: "it can be modded!" Haha :LOL:
 
Imo it would add alot to the game, it would be cool to see where you got hit/where you hit someone once their dead.
 
huh? in many of the videos of hl2 it seems evident that blood appears on what youre hitting..or am I just crazy?
 
wouldn't want the game to turn into a "soldier of fortune" that only sells because of the 48 impact points on the body. I preffer the "the facial animations have 48 bones" thing ;)
 
yeah but what about both? facial animations have 48 bones , AND you can blow them apart and smash thier complex face in..fun!
 
yeah it would be cool, with all these baddass gfx and cool blood effects it looks a little strange not to see blood decals on em, if u know what i mean

and the players should close there eyes when they are dead it looks silly now
 
Yes, these guys are right. HL2 will have bullet-wounds wherever you hit an enemy. In the Barricade video, a rebel gets shot in the side and you can see a blood decal on his jacket.

Also, in the Ravenholm vid, the player hits the severed body with the crowbar and it makes a decal on the leg.

It's clear that they chose to leave damage decals out of CS:S for a reason. I'd guess because it should really be server-side, and that would add unnecessary lag. Still, it's an awesome effect (doesn't add too much gore, like SoF, but it's still realistic like Far Cry. I would hope they'd eventually add this to CS:S but it doesn't look like they will anytime soon.

-UnmarkedOne
 
ComradeBadger said:
HL2 doesn't have per-poly hit detection, so no, it's doubtful.

I think he is talking about decals.

They do seem to be there in the Ravenholm video from E3 2004.
 
stoops417 said:
HL2 has model deformaition... and i hope they ad it to CS:S

You don't know what you're talking about. Any 'model deformation' is hacked-in preset separate models and breakpoints.

Source can do bullet decals, wether or not it's in cs has yet to be seen. You can't mod cs:s to add decals, good luck playing with your modded version. Source should have per-poly hit detection. If it doesn't it's just laziness on the part of valve. For goodness sake, per-poly hit detection is easier to code than friggin hitboxes! It's one of the darn directx samples! You can look up how to do it in c++ online for freeeee! arg!
 
Check out last email from valve in the valve info thread:

From: Jess Cliffe <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:11:51 -0700
Subject: RE: Body shot decals
To: azz0r <[email protected]>

Both are on our list.


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:02 PM
To: Jess Cliffe
Subject: Body shot decals

How cool would it be to have little blood shot decals on the player
where they got shot! not like blood splat, but like bullet hole type
thing ;p

Also can you fix the horrible shadow/ground tearing when a player dies
;p

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Yeah, i like the decals on Doom 3, but the body vaporizing sucked, so i got an ultra gore ungibbable(bodys dont vaporize) mod
 
Per-poly hit detection is moronically easy to code. I've done it myself, in visual basic no less. The 'Dark' game in my sig uses it. Hitboxes in souce = pathetic, and I don't for a second believe that source uses anything less than per-poly, especially after watching those cs:s shoot-around-the-body vids.
 
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