Bush confessed to a crime on national radio today

[No Limit]

Here is the law:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sup_01_50_10_36.html

Here is his confession:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/17/politics/17text-bush.html

In the weeks following the terrorist attacks on our nation, I authorized the National Security Agency, consistent with U.S. law and the Constitution, to intercept the international communications of people with known links to Al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations. Before we intercept these communications, the government must have information that establishes a clear link to these terrorist networks.

This is a highly classified program that is crucial to our national security. Its purpose is to detect and prevent terrorist attacks against the United States, our friends and allies.

Yesterday, the existence of this secret program was revealed in media reports after being improperly provided to news organizations. As a result, our enemies have learned information they should not have.

And the unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk. Revealing classified information is illegal, alerts our enemies and endangers our country.

...

I have reauthorized this program more than 30 times since the Sept. 11 attacks and I intend to do so for as long as our nation faces a continuing threat from Al Qaeda and related groups.

Arrest him and put him on trial. But then again this is just me being an extremist, a moderate attitude is allowing a criminal to walk free and just forget the crime ever happened. After all, Bush is above the law and nothing should be able to touch him.

To add, the new york times had this story for over a year, before last year's presidential election. So much for the libural media.

 

[satch919]

Hmm, Clinton gets impeached for not admitting he got a blowjob and Bush is allowed to get away with this? Sounds like we have our priorities mixed up.

I say we impeach him or at the very least make a demand for him to step down.

 

[dream431ca]

Yep. I saw that. It was illegal. But that's what you get when your country gets attacked by terrorists. Sometimes you have to break rules to secure your country.

 

[Beerdude26]

Hmm, Clinton gets impeached for not admitting he got a blowjob and Bush is allowed to get away with this? Sounds like we have our priorities mixed up.

I say we impeach him or at the very least make a demand for him to step down.

Nah.
Let's just send Monica over to him

 

[satch919]

Yep. I saw that. It was illegal. But that's what you get when your country gets attacked by terrorists. Sometimes you have to break rules to secure your country.

HA! I sure hope that was sarcasm.

 

[15357]

I don't know about America, but we have this on the constitution:

#23: The rights of the citizens can be lessened, controlled, or revoked in a situation of national emergency or to provide social order, national security, and/or public welfare.



Anyway, I agree with dream431ca.

 

[clarky003]

you have to be kidding, seriously youve got more chance of catching a deadly disease or being in some sort of car accident than being under iminent threat in a terrorist incident.

 

[Ikerous]

Isn't there supposed to be an investigation into this fairly soon?

 

[No Limit]

Yep. I saw that. It was illegal. But that's what you get when your country gets attacked by terrorists. Sometimes you have to break rules to secure your country.

Please, wake your ass up.

 

[Naudian]

Yup....why hasn't Bush been assassinated yet?

 

[theotherguy]

Yep. I saw that. It was illegal. But that's what you get when your country gets attacked by terrorists. Sometimes you have to break rules to secure your country.

That's basically what Caesar said before he became emporer, and what Hitler said before he became the chancellor. The kind of reasoning that you can break the constitution during a "time of crisis" is a dangerous thought indeed. We are a nation built upon laws, and those laws are determined by the lawmakers and enforced by the jurors.

The president does not have the right to arbitrarily break laws at will to "secure the country". What's next? Random CIA eavesdropping on all phone conversations? Segregation of arabs from public transportation? ID tags on everyone, prison without trial?

The road the president walks is a dangerous one, and it leads to anywhere but safety and security.

 

[gh0st]

no limit you are a ****ing moron, if you'd read the very link you posted you'd see this gem

notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence

no law was broken. wake up you guys, uncle sam isnt spying on you he's spying on the bad guy. it may offend you but the federal government has NO interest in your puny lives unless they pose a threat.

here's my challenge to you no limit, post EXACTLY the law bush broke. copy and paste it, i am DYING to know what our great president will be put on trial for. and dont just post a link to surveillance laws in general.

ps they released this news story right as one of their top reporters' books went out to generate interest.

so much for the liberal media. the old york times couldnt be more liberal.

 

[Neo_Kuja]

Those liberals, how dare they show that the president has manipulated various laws to gain an increased amount of control over his population ! :frown:

"There are three types of people in America. Conservatives, Liberals and Terrorists. Guess which one does the most damage ?" - Off a random message board

 

[gh0st]

Those liberals, how dare they show that the president has manipulated various laws to gain an increased amount of control over his population ! :frown:

dont just make random retarded statements.

bush manipulated laws. what laws? NAME A SINGLE LAW BUSH BROKE, TWISTED, DISTORTED, OR MANIPULATED - OH WAIT, YOU CANT.

he increased amount of control over his population. to what end? so he can get more oil money? :dozey: bush is not the mind police.

 

[Glirk Dient]

dont just make random retarded statements.

bush manipulated laws. what laws? NAME A SINGLE LAW BUSH BROKE, TWISTED, DISTORTED, OR MANIPULATED - OH WAIT, YOU CANT.

he increased amount of control over his population. to what end? so he can get more oil money? :dozey: bush is not the mind police.

Watch out...I think Bush is inside your braaaaain!

 

[Neo_Kuja]

NAME A SINGLE LAW BUSH BROKE, TWISTED, DISTORTED, OR MANIPULATED - OH WAIT, YOU CANT.

Oh, wait ... I can ! A exert of Section 220 of the USA Patriot Act reads :

SEC. 220. NATIONWIDE SERVICE OF SEARCH WARRANTS FOR ELECTRONIC EVIDENCE.

(a) IN GENERAL - Chapter 121 of title 18, United States Code is amended -
(1) in section 2703, by striking 'under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure' every place it appears and inserting 'using the procedures described in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure by a court with juristriction over the offense under investigation'

The bolded words clearly suggest manipulation of the (now) old laws, but if you need any help finding the defition of those words, try www.dictionary.com. The PATRIOT Act was passed shortly after 9/11, and currently trying to be renewed by Mr. George W Bush. Go read it yourself - you might be suprised at how many of your freedoms have been stripped away ...

 

[jverne]

did anybody ever read it?

 

[clarky003]

From what Ive heard aswell they have been spending all this money on the war, and havnt improved since or made any conclusive statement's about the chain failiure of norad and security responses pre 9/11 and on the day.

All this bullshit about introducing new laws and fighting iraq when it was clear how apparently a whole group of terrorist's slipped by them, they havnt done or disclosed jack to ensure that the defence system works properly in the event of a possible next time, there is so little focus or emphasis for making sure it doesnt happen again.

For all the administration knows.. after ruffling the worlds feathers now more than ever terrorist's may get in from elsewhere while their focusing on the middle east.

 

[jondy]

may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence

Genuinely not trying to be facetious, but am I missing something

 

[OCybrManO]

did anybody ever read it?

 

[Sulkdodds]

It's almost funny. Almost.

 

[Dalamari]

People shoot JFK

This jackass runs for a 2nd term and wins

Life isn't fair

 

[gh0st]

Genuinely not trying to be facetious, but am I missing something

yeah you are.

 

[jondy]

yeah you are.

And seeing as you took the time to (half) read my post, press 'quote', and reply, maybe you could squander a couple more seconds of your valuable time on this messageboard and enlighten me as to what exactly I'm missing?

 

[clarky003]

Even the people interviewed by the bbc when asked what they think, they say its a crime, its illegal .. and the debate now is why he and the administration didnt go through the legal procedure.

I happen to think thats pretty self explainatory.

 

[CptStern]

so much for the liberal media. the old york times couldnt be more liberal.

ya real "liberal"

more liberalism

 

[gh0st]

And seeing as you took the time to (half) read my post, press 'quote', and reply, maybe you could squander a couple more seconds of your valuable time on this messageboard and enlighten me as to what exactly I'm missing?

its to ACQUIRE foreign intelligence, about FOREIGN issues - eg, terrorism. the patriot act has little to do with spying on foreign powers, its all about regulating domestic intelligence.

neo_kuja, nothing of what you posted corresponds to the law i quoted.