Bush's approval rating is low, or, How to rig a poll 101

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Many of you have probably heard that Bush's approval rating has hit a low. After watching a few hours of CNN in my hotel room yesterday, it's almost been imprinted into my memory: Bush's ratings have dropped into the 34% rate, according to CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in1350874.shtml. I've had no less than five people go in and "stick" it to me - the polls show it, only 34% of the country approve of Bush - he must be the worst president, in like, ever!

But are they really showing the whole truth? With my prior experiences with the liberal media, and liberals in general, it's easy to see how rarely anything carries much weight. On the news article, there is a link here, to a PDF file:http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_bush_022706.pdf

Scroll down to the bottom and you'll see that the numbers show, in the poll:

289 Republicans
381 Democrats
348 Independants (Who almost always are leftist groups)

A simple math calculation shows, of the poll:

28% were Republicans (less than a third)
37% were Democrats
34% were Independants

I found this kind of funny, that this whole data that's being blasted all over the liberal blogs, and the TV, as well as word of mouth, is so easily disproved by clicking on one of the links in the news article. But, no one actually bothered to look, or really care.
 
His approval ratings could be 100%, still wouldn't change the fact he's doing a shit job.
 
brink's said:
His approval ratings could be 100%, still wouldn't change the fact he's doing a shit job.
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QFT, I'm thinking.
 
You don't know (or at least haven't explained) whether the poll-takers intentionally chose those groups of people to skew the results of the poll, or if they chose the people at random and that spread of party affiliation was what came from a random sample which is representative of the public as a whole.
This omission on your part suggests to me that either you don't actually understand opinion research, or you that you do appreciate what I've said above and are trying to unfairly disparage the poll. At this point I could make a generalisation about conservatives and conservative media but making generalisations about people based on political leanings is very stupid indeed.
 
it's highly unlikely that CNN would take a purposefully biased poll

it's far more likely they took an SRS (or maybe stratified for location or something awfully complex like that) and those are merely the numbers they got
 
As far as I can see there is nothing wrong with the polls. Look at the history going back till 2004 they seem to be pretty accurate.
 
I agree. With what? That is left up to the imagination
 
Ricgar said:
Many of you have probably heard that Bush's approval rating has hit a low. After watching a few hours of CNN in my hotel room yesterday, it's almost been imprinted into my memory: Bush's ratings have dropped into the 34% rate, according to CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in1350874.shtml. I've had no less than five people go in and "stick" it to me - the polls show it, only 34% of the country approve of Bush - he must be the worst president, in like, ever!

But are they really showing the whole truth? With my prior experiences with the liberal media, and liberals in general, it's easy to see how rarely anything carries much weight. On the news article, there is a link here, to a PDF file:http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_bush_022706.pdf

Scroll down to the bottom and you'll see that the numbers show, in the poll:

289 Republicans
381 Democrats
348 Independants (Who almost always are leftist groups)

A simple math calculation shows, of the poll:

28% were Republicans (less than a third)
37% were Democrats
34% were Independants

I found this kind of funny, that this whole data that's being blasted all over the liberal blogs, and the TV, as well as word of mouth, is so easily disproved by clicking on one of the links in the news article. But, no one actually bothered to look, or really care.
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it's not like that's the only source/poll nor is it unexpected:

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

but nice attempt at pigeon holing this as a "liberal conspiracy"
 
Well, I look at what Bush is doing and I get surprised (still!) at his sheer level of idiocy. I hear of his approval ratings, and I am not surprised because I know what idiotic thing he did last. Approval ratings are what the lazy look at so they don't have to worry too much about what someone is actually doing.
 
those polls probably are biased, but probably in favour of bush...because I still can't believe Bush has a 34% approval rating.
 
Here we go again, its the American Conservative persecution complex!
 
New Title: Defending Bush, or, talking out your ass.
 
New Title: ITT Liberals ignore the facts, or, Hating Bush is 'hip'
 
Ricgar said:
New Title: ITT Liberals ignore the facts, or, Hating Bush is 'hip'
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So you're assuming that anyone who criticises the Bush government must be a liberal, or just following a trend? That's pretty stupid.
How about you shut up before someone makes you look even more stupid?

Lock please.
 
Ricgar said:
New Title: ITT Liberals ignore the facts, or, Hating Bush is 'hip'
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please list facts that liberals ignore ...I could list facts that republicans (and in some cases democrats) ignore that's longer than a country mile (see what I did there? I used a colloquialism in order to put you at ease because I'd really enjoy stomping on your "liberal lies" nonsense)
 
CptStern said:
please list facts that liberals ignore ...I could list facts that republicans (and in some cases democrats) ignore that's longer than a country mile (see what I did there? I used a colloquialism in order to put you at ease because I'd really enjoy stomping on your "liberal lies" nonsense)
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If you don't think the media is liberal biased you're living in a dream world, it's that simple.
 
that's not listing facts

please list facts that liberals ignore



oh and does the "liberal" media apply to everything outside of the US? or is it just an american thing ...but I do agree the "liberal" media in the US shows bias ..bias towards the bush adminsitration in that they have absolutely NO balls and only report 1/3 of the story
 
Ricgar said:
New Title: ITT Liberals ignore the facts, or, Hating Bush is 'hip'
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Breaking News: Bush ****ed up, but trying to gloss over the pointlessness of the Iraq war is still 'sensible'

Oh, btw, im not a Republican or Liberal, I dont agree with either party...not to mention im english. :dozey:
 
Ricgar said:
If you don't think the media is liberal biased you're living in a dream world, it's that simple.
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Stop being so childish. Sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling 'its true because I said so!!!' just won't cut the mustard pal!
 
Save the reputation of poll (4/23/06)

Bush's approve rate may have never been higher than 30% after he activated the Iraq war. So even 33% is an exageration. Then why do we see a recent down fall of Bush's rate?

It is to save your belief on media. More and more people start to realize media and poll are mind control tools of government. They realize Bush's selection was the result of a rigged voting system and the media propaganda and poll cheating.

So they let Bush's rate down. A fact they hard to cover up anymore. It doesn't hurt. Bush has been in his second term. He couldn't go for a third term. Bush himself said he didn't care about it. A bird is in hand. Who cares the other birds in the woods.

But that will save your confidence on media and poll. See, we gave a fair judgement on that bad boy. Trust us next time when we gave new poll.

But keep in mind how a war criminal could be selected as a president twice and how the media has helped his selection. Don't be blinded by cover up propaganda. The recent down fall of Bush's rate is to save the reputation of poll so they can go on to cheat.

Beware of another "terror attack". Bush got his seat by "terror attack". To save his reputation, he may use it again.
 
kathaksung said:
Save the reputation of poll (4/23/06)

It is to save your belief on media. More and more people start to realize media and poll are mind control tools of government. They realize Bush's selection was the result of a rigged voting system and the media propaganda and poll cheating.

But that will save your confidence on media and poll. See, we gave a fair judgement on that bad boy. Trust us next time when we gave new poll.

Don't be blinded by cover up propaganda. The recent down fall of Bush's rate is to save the reputation of poll so they can go on to cheat.
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That's quite a good observation. Not sure if I agree that the results of the poll would be fixed due to this, but the motivation you point out, is probably there.
 
Ricgar said:
New Title: ITT Liberals ignore the facts, or, Hating Bush is 'hip'
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http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102348&page=2

Read this, come back, make some arguements backed up by facts and sources.

Please, you're not doing anything to help the Republicans or Conservatives, like myself, that visit this board. You must understand the Politics section is shark-infested waters for us and there's not many people around to throw you a life-line. If you're not going to be able to defend a point well then please don;t bring one up.
 
Icarusintel said:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102348&page=2

Read this, come back, make some arguements backed up by facts and sources.

Please, you're not doing anything to help the Republicans or Conservatives, like myself, that visit this board. You must understand the Politics section is shark-infested waters for us and there's not many people around to throw you a life-line. If you're not going to be able to defend a point well then please don;t bring one up.
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heh well said ...oh it's not so easy for us on the other side you know ...there's often been times where I'm fighting off multiple conservatives by myself (and winning if I do say so myself ;) ).
 
I'm the leader of the Liberal Conspiracy.
Ricgar was planted here by our organization to make conservatives look extremely irrational.

Note how in this thread, his claims were thoroughly debunked, yet he decided to 'fight back' by ignoring all the sensible points and replying with a weak "Liberals ignore the facts" catch-all excuse.

Note this other Ricgar thread we planted: http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=104730

It pre-established the main character traits of our puppet-decoy.

-Failure at maths.
-Persistent Denial.
-Illogical claims based on said failed maths.

So, combine that with his only other thread, in which he openly identifies himself as a Republican in the title, and you've got a recipe for subterfuge!

It's extremely odd that, of his fifteen posts, he has so readily sought the embrace of controversy!
Luckily, thanks to the Jew-Run Media, no-one will ever notice that he's just a flammable shell.

:shh:
 
Ricgar said:
...the polls show it, only 34% of the country approve of Bush - he must be the worst president, in like, ever!
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Do note that his father had a worse approval rating in the end, I belive it was 29%. ;)
 
Murray said:
Do note that his father had a worse approval rating in the end, I belive it was 29%. ;)
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Lincoln prolly would had even lower
 
Rigged poll.

Quote, "Quote, "Men, whites, Catholics boost Bush in latest AP poll
12/9/2005

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush's improved standing with whites, men, Catholics and other core supporters has been a key factor in pushing his job approval rating up to 42%. That's the highest level since summer."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-09-bushpoll_x.htm

Does the population of whites, men increased by 5%? Or 5% of people turn to be Catholics? If these are core supporters, how can they be counted flip flop 5%? When "information operation" office manipulates the poll number, they pick up a reason by hand. No matter how absurd it is.

Poll is a tool used to control public's mind. It represents the intention of the Inside group not people's.

Pope John paul had had a strong message for President George W. Bush: God is not on your side if you invade Iraq." This was said two years ago. So how can catholics a core supporter to Bush?

Quote, "U.S. Church Alliance Denounces Iraq War

By BRIAN MURPHY, AP Religion Writer Sat Feb 18,
PORTO ALEGRE, Brazil - A coalition of American churches sharply denounced the U.S.-led war in Iraq on Saturday, accusing Washington of "raining down terror" and apologizing to other nations for "the violence, degradation and poverty our nation has sown."

The statement, issued at the largest gathering of Christian churches in nearly a decade, also warned the United States was pushing the world toward environmental catastrophe with a "culture of consumption" and its refusal to back international accords seeking to battle global warming.

The two-page statement from the WCC group came at the midpoint of a 10-day meeting of more than 4,000 religious leaders, scholars and activists discussing trends and goals for major Christian denominations for the coming decades.

The churches said they had "grown heavy with guilt" for not doing enough to speak out against the Iraq war and other issues.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=63299&forum=7

Where do these "Bush supporters" come from? Neither from Catholics nor from Christians. What else left? Only come from the magician's hat of media's poll. The actual figure may be well below 20%.
 
Here is a poll done by AOL on 3/10. It may prove what I said in last message was true. Bush's true approve rate is well below 20%.

How do you rate President Bush on domestic affairs?
Poor 87%
Good 7%
Fair 6%
Total Votes: 46,178

How do rate him on overall foreign policy and terrorism?
Poor 84%
Good 9%
Fair 7%
Total Votes: 46,399 (3/10/06)

Though such kind of poll is always referred as un-scientific, I trust it much more than those of media's. Although still it can be manipulated (If Feds penetrated AOL) but consider Bush is a puppet of D.O.J., Feds has no reason to discredit him at this time.
 
A lie with no foundation

President Bush Job Approval (12/23/05)

Quote, "Updated Daily by Noon Eastern

Friday December 23, 2005--Fifty percent (50%) of American adults approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. That's up six points since the President's speech on Sunday night."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

A typical mind control through media. How easy they manipulate a poll number to reach their goal.

An incompetent President who didn't know how to deal a disaster caused by hurricane. A totalitrian ruler who despites the civil liberty and monitor its own citizens. He is responsible for an unnecessary war which caused a huge loss of lives. Yet it's so easy to award him a ten points raise in poll.

Why? Because Feds (D.O.J.) wants to permanent the Patriot Act. They need a strong puppet President to support it. So they strengthen him with a rigged poll number.

Not only this. Insurgence and terrorist are cooperated too. Have you ever heard any "sucide" bombing recently? Or US soldiers' casulty? Either insurgence cooperated with puppet Iraqi government, or US media have censored the bad news to give you an expression there is a successful election in Iraq. The purpose is to support the notorious Bush.

The inside group used to extort by terror attack. With 911 and anthrax attack they got Patriot Act. With insurgence they find excuse to stay in Iraq until the next mid-east war. It's not a news that the controlled media issue government favourable articles and rigged poll produced by "information operation office".

This is why there is a peaceful Iraq these days(until now when I wrote this article) and several rigged poll to promote the President. Include this sudden jump approve rate. The Washington Post and the ABC followed the order to pull the number to 46% but shy to raise it anymore. They left it for rasmussenreports for the 50%. The brand name media took a little care of thier popularity anyhow.

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Another poll in MSN at same time shows that 85% people want Bush impeached.

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?
* 134522 responses Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial. 85%


No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors." 5%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching. 8%

I don't know. 2%

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904#survey
 
Most likely because most Republicans are too stupid to use or a computer or can't get broadband in their trailers.
 
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