Canada to help iraq plan upcoming elections

[Revisedsoul]

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/12/07/iraqelections041207.html

would have figured that<blame america> that the americans would have rigged it</blame america>


Blame america translation = over seen

 

[gh0st]

good, finally do something worthwhile.

 

[CptStern]

ya canada is evil

 

[Steve]

good, finally do something worthwhile.

Damn straight. Ooooh...we don't wanna fight in the war...but we wanna help rebuild! We don't wanna do anything potentially controversial that could bring detriment to our reputation, but we'll take a quick boost by throwing money at a problem!

(This is actually how I feel about EVERYONE who refused to help in Iraq. Interestingly enough, I am against how the war has been gone about.)

 

[Revisedsoul]

good, finally do something worthwhile.

hey if our government wernt so pussy whipped by the us, we'd turn your power off

 

[CptStern]

Damn straight. Ooooh...we don't wanna fight in the war...but we wanna help rebuild! We don't wanna do anything potentially controversial that could bring detriment to our reputation, but we'll take a quick boost by throwing money at a problem!

nope it's not that we didnt want to fight the war, it was that we saw it as illegal and ethically wrong

(This is actually how I feel about EVERYONE who refused to help in Iraq. Interestingly enough, I am against how the war has been gone about.)

why should anybody help clean up the mess you created?

 

[Steve]

nope it's not that we didnt want to fight the war, it was that we saw it as illegal and ethically wrong

We do what we want.
No, seriously. Is the war ethically wrong and illegal? Yes. HOWEVER, what if we had exhausted every single option? What if every single scrap of diplomacy had dissolved into nothing? Would you still be saying the same thing?

why should anybody help clean up the mess you created?

Everybody seems very very VERY happy to do so. They just didn't seem very happy to help us create it.

 

[burner69]

We do what we want.
No, seriously. Is the war ethically wrong and illegal? Yes. HOWEVER, what if we had exhausted every single option? What if every single scrap of diplomacy had dissolved into nothing? Would you still be saying the same thing?


Everybody seems very very VERY happy to do so. They just didn't seem very happy to help us create it.

No, we'd be saying; thank god we found a peaceful solution.

I wonder why people didn't want to help us go on a farce of a war. I think it says something about people's priorities when they want to help in the peaceful side of things, but not the illegal ethically wrong side of things.

Do you really not care tens of thousands of lives have been lost under false pretenses?

 

[Steve]

No, we'd be saying; thank god we found a peaceful solution.

I wonder why people didn't want to help us go on a farce of a war. I think it says something about people's priorities when they want to help in the peaceful side of things, but not the illegal ethically wrong side of things.

Do you really not care tens of thousands of lives have been lost under false pretenses?

I'm sorry, what I meant to say was what if every scrap of diplomacy had been exhausted and we were FORCED to go to war.

And yes, I'm completely pissed off that thousands of innocent people and brave soldiers have had to die for a lie (or, at the VERY least, a horrible mistake) that a corrupt administration has yet to own up to.

 

[CptStern]

We do what we want.
No, seriously. Is the war ethically wrong and illegal? Yes. HOWEVER, what if we had exhausted every single option? What if every single scrap of diplomacy had dissolved into nothing? Would you still be saying the same thing?

but ...you hadnt exhausted every single option ..you rejected diplomacy. The resolutions were working, Saddam was disarming (in retrospect it's pretty obvious he did disarm)

 

[Steve]

but ...you hadnt exhausted every single option ..you rejected diplomacy.

Correct. Hence the "what if". It's called a hypothetical question. And how did we find out he did disarm? Well, we went in there and didn't find anything, that's how. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[burner69]

Sorry for implying you didn't care.

As for exhausting options; if every reasonable attempt at a solution had been tried, and it had failed (which I VERY much doubt it would have) then yes I would say the war was justified.

The truth though, is it was war from the start, no other options involved. THAT is why I hate it so much.

 

[burner69]

And how did we find out he did disarm? Well, we went in there and didn't find anything, that's how. Hindsight is 20/20.

Hey, I bet Scotland has genetically modified tigers ready to release on the world... *bombs scotland, killing thousands* ah nope, never mind, at least we checked.

 

[Steve]

Hey, I bet Scotland has genetically modified tigers ready to release on the world... *bombs scotland, killing thousands* ah nope, never mind, at least we checked.

Naw...I think you misunderstood me. My impression was that Cptstern was implying we knew full damn well that there were absolutely no weapons of mass destruction and that Saddam had fully disarmed PRIOR to invading. I countered, stating my belief that we didn't truly know until we got there. It really wasn't about justifying the pre-emptive strike.


Edit: THOSE SCOTTISH SONS OF BITCHES ARE GOING DOWN!

 

[X|Rolando]

If the Bush just would've let the inspectors stay...

Didnt lord Hans Blix mention that he was being blackmailed by (a part of) the US gov?

*conspiracy* :cheers: