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GETTYSBURG -- Lumberyard manager Don O'Brien was whacking golf balls yesterday at the Gettysburg Driving Range, located where busy four-lane Routes 30 and 15 intersect, about three miles from Gettysburg's historic town square and four miles from the famous Civil War battlefield and national cemetery.

The 42-acre site, which now is just a large, grassy field with a vacant house and barn on it, is the spot where local motorcycle dealer David LeVan and his partners want to build a slot machine casino, performing arts theater and health spa that would cost "hundreds of millions of dollars."

O'Brien said that while he doesn't gamble himself, he's not opposed to a tourist magnet like a casino, which might work well with Gettysburg's already powerful attractions -- its historic battlefield and museum and its downtown of quaint shops and restaurants.

"There's a lot of tourist traffic through here in the summer season and a casino would give people one more reason to come," he said. "It would also supply some night life."

LeVan, 59, owner of Battlefield Harley-Davidson, grew up in Gettysburg but spent 30 years in Philadelphia as an accountant and then chief executive officer of Conrail. He left Conrail in 1997, when it was taken over by Norfolk Southern and CSX railroads.
Some of my ancestors were killed at the battle of Gettysburg ffs. How disrespectful!
 
Get over it. People build and rebuild over ancient/historical monuments/locations all the time.
 
Gunner said:
Get over it. People build and rebuild over ancient/historical monuments/locations all the time.
Sure, but not Gettysburg. And yes, that place will be haunted like a Disney ride.
 
Gunner said:
Get over it. People build and rebuild over ancient/historical monuments/locations all the time.
Sure I'll get over it...

By the way, my company just opened up a brothel in Bergen Belsen and a pub at the old Hastings site. Im sure no one will care. Make sure to visit sometime soon. :)
 
DeusExMachina said:
He's not going to get over it. You don't build over history.

Oh really.

What about the 'freedom tower' that's planned for ground zero. What about Hiroshima. Nagasaki. Myriad of examples available. So yeah, get over it.
 
The Freedom Tower would be a memorial.
Nagasaki and Hiroshima were large cities still with many people alive. Their lives were there so they were rebuilt...not to mention that both cities have many memorials to those who died.
Neither are disrespectful.
 
Tourism and commercial development

Since the battle, Gettysburg has been a prominent attraction for visitors. Immediately after the battle, thousands of relatives arrived in search of their dead and wounded. (This was possible only because Gettysburg was in Northern territory. No similar trips could be made by relatives to, say, Chancellorsville, Virginia.) After the war, due to its proximity to major eastern cities, Gettysburg was one of the most popular tourist destinations of all the battlefields. Commercial development followed this influx.

In 1884, the Gettysburg and Harrisburg Railroad completed construction of a spur that ran from the town, over the field of Pickett's Charge, and to the eastern side of Little Round Top. The railroad purchased 13 acres (53,000 m²) of land at the terminus and established Round Top Park. The park hosted a pavilion, two wells with pumps, a full kitchen, a photography studio, and several other buildings. It was a popular tourist destination, but soon fell prey to problems that included alcohol abuse, prostitution, and gambling. In 1896, the railroad sold its property to the Gettysburg National Military Park Commission, but Round Top Park was not removed immediately. In 1913, a casino was added. During this period, its popularity increased with the number of visitors able to reach the battlefield by automobile. The train tracks were finally removed in 1939 and the pavilions and the dance hall were torn down.

Another blight on the battlefield was the Gettysburg Electric Railway Company, owned by William H. Tipton. From 1894 until the government purchased back his property in 1917, his trolley cars left the town of Gettysburg, rode down Emmitsburg Road across the field of Pickett's Charge, through the Peach Orchard and the bloody Wheatfield, and terminated south of Little Round Top, near the area of Plum Run known since July 2, 1863, as the Slaughter Pen. Here the visitor found Tipton Park, another popular attraction. Both the trolley line and the railroad spur were located on private property, but right at the edge of sacred battlefield lands.

Yet another blight came in more modern times. The National Tower, soaring 393 feet (120 m) above private land on the edge of the battlefield, was erected in 1974 to the dismay of preservationists. Eventually the town of Gettysburg obtained a court order to seize the tower, compensating the owners $3 million, and in a great public ceremony, the tower was demolished on July 4, 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Battlefield

Not the first time apparently lawl.
 
i agree. who cares.

its. a. grassy. field.

there's a barn. if we didnt rebuild over a place where "something had happened" we'd have very few spaces to build on.

no one cares about your slave wielding ancestors. i'd rather have a profitable casino there than nothing.
 
I'd rather have a place built there with twenty beautiful women there waiting for my body.
 
I was thinking sex, but that would be nice too.
 
Oh really.

What about the 'freedom tower' that's planned for ground zero. What about Hiroshima. Nagasaki. Myriad of examples available. So yeah, get over it.

Whats planned, is'int whats been built. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were examples of life moving on despite what Atomic atrocities were.

Should we build over your grave? Forget who you are, and not care?

He's not going to get over it. You don't build over history.

People who build over history are people who forget. And the people who forget history, are doomed to repeat it.

People pay too much attention to history.

You'd rather they forget it?
 
People repeat history anyway. It's not like an evil dictator is going to look at Hitler and go "omfg he was terrible, release the Jehovas Witneses and send their family a care package!"
 
People repeat history anyway.

Do they? Where you the type of fool who would put his hand on a hot stove, burned it to ash, drooled, retracted your limb... and then did it again?

Or did learn from the pain that it caused you, and also learned that pain is a sensation that warns of bodily damage and that you should stop doing whatever it is that you were doing?

It's not like an evil dictator is going to look at Hitler and go "omfg he was terrible, release the Jehovas Witneses and send their family a care package!"

Everyone in power has the potential to be a dictator. You just need Soldier's and a suprise ambush of those who have lesser powers than you, which when combined, could overall or completely destroy your abilities to rule.

Besides, Dictators have learned over Hitler. And they've become better at the game of patience and mind than he was.
 
Personal experience is far different than reading what happened in the past. I'm saying people should stop being dependant on living their lives and setting their values by what people have done in the past. Look forward!
 
As a species, history is our record of personal experiences. We could consider World War II, the Vietnam War, or our new battles in the middle east as our 'Hot Stoves'.

Without knowledge of these, or past occurences, how should the human race then measure its competency and intellectual growth without a record of its highs and lows? Without history, and it can be argued we've not even progressed but our time here is only now being written.

Surely someone like you could respect history, and perhaps learn from it. Where did the fork come from? The Rifle? War?

You want answers to the small and the large questions we were asking ourselves thousands of years ago, and its through a simple Highschool Education in World Sociality you would learn it.

The printing press. Who invented it? Johannes Guttenburg. I did that without a google search, but an education. You say look forward, but with what? The future is unknown to us and even fate. We can plan for the future, and either be right or wrong.

Expectations are merely predictions, and the future is nowhere near as solidified as the now and the prior. Growth will come through progressiveness, optimism, observation, adaptation, and curiosity. Another way of looking forward is sometimes by observing whats behind you.

Problems you've encountered now might have been problems someone else besides you has encountered in the past. You can learn how they overcame what challenged them, or you can anticipate your chances of failure more complete then in question.
 
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