Chimpanzees using advanced weaponry to hunt

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6387611.stm
Chimpanzees in Senegal have been observed making and using wooden spears to hunt other primates, according to a study in the journal Current Biology.
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Advanced...relative to them.

Alarmists will react strongly and demand the chimpanzee threat be dealt with asap. We know the pattern now.

Monkeys -> Weapons -> Spaceships -> Crazy intelligent computers -> Child born of the universe. We have to stop that from happening again.

Pictorial prediction of our doom.
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we are so similiar is so beatifull *tear*

oh and in ya face anti-evolution christians!
next we will hav monkeys drinking beer whit us!

human:so how is the job in the plant?
monkey:is growing
*laughters*
 
First a giant squid and now this? **** that I'm gonna gtfo from earth
 
Nature is rebelling.....
Nature is evolving......
Nature has a plan......

All this bitch needs is a pimp smack to the face.
 
Today they're jabbing sticks into trees, tomorrow they'll be building nuclear weapons. Forget Iraq, Iran and North Korea, the world faces a new threat from the jungles.
 
mortiz said:
Today they're jabbing sticks into trees, tomorrow they'll be building nuclear weapons. Forget Iraq, Iran and North Korea, the world faces a new threat from the jungles.
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I say we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan in order to gear up for the fight against the primates because, if my calculations are correct, we will need no fewer than 500 million people to take them on.
 
Holy shit this is awesome news. But kinda funny also. It's happening in my lifetime!
 
So... how long has this been going on? It's kind of weird to experience evolution in a defined time frame when a species first acquires a new trait/skill.

I bet the behavior has been learned, either from watching humans and trying to imitate, or from being taught by humans as a way to do it. Maybe released into the wild and it sort of spread?

It's just hard for me to believe that it's simply evolution at work, cropping up so suddenly like this.
 
Raziaar, they were not taught it.
It also somewhat explains it in the article.

It's quite simple:
Those chimps are predator to the red colobus monkey. However the red colobus monkey is getting low in population. This means that these chimps are growing more, and there food is getting less. So they need some new food.

They eat bushbaby. Bushbaby is found in hollow trunks and branches. So they originally probably hit the hollow trunks with sticks. Eventually figured out if they make the stick sharper it will break the trunk better. The mothers then did it and there offspring caught on.

Then we seen them do it.


Not that complicated to understand.
 
Maybe, I didn't read the article.

Does it say how many years they expect these monkeys have been exhibiting the usages?
 
- Send forth all legions. Do not stop the attack until the monkey's city is taken. Slay them all.
- What of the monkey wizard?
- I will break him!
 
Raziaar said:
Maybe, I didn't read the article.

Does it say how many years they expect these monkeys have been exhibiting the usages?
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Surely they could have been at it for generations, and were only just witnessed. Some apes have been observed using sticks to dig out insects for years, its not too much of a leap to go from a probing-stick to a stabbing-stick.
 
And they said I was crazy for attempting to drive all of the monkey species towards extinction... WHOS CRAZY NOW?!
 
fantastic!

Chimps have never been great tool makers, they use only what they find. But if they're fashioning spears they are really smarter than we thought! Heck, it could even be evolutionary pressure which has driven them to make tools. I'd like to see if each chimp group has a specific "culture", like the orangatans do, and how specialized they are at making these spears.
 
theotherguy said:
fantastic!

Chimps have never been great tool makers, they use only what they find. But if they're fashioning spears they are really smarter than we thought! Heck, it could even be evolutionary pressure which has driven them to make tools. I'd like to see if each chimp group has a specific "culture", like the orangatans do, and how specialized they are at making these spears.
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They do...things like cracking nuts open is done differently in different groups etc...pretty cool.
 
we've already known about some chimps that used twigs to get ants from inside a log/ant-castle. they'd stick the twigs in the tunnels/holes and pull it out and ants would be on the twig.

but spear making? double yew tee eff dude.
 
gick said:
Some apes have been observed using sticks to dig out insects for years, its not too much of a leap to go from a probing-stick to a stabbing-stick.
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Yeah, I know about that.
 
This article would've been better with more lasers.
 
You know, this has got me thinking. Perhaps homonids were making tools much earlier than we previously thought. We had always assumed that homonids would use rocks first,and then move up to sticks and spears. That is why we've always looked for stone arrowheads and cutting tools. Perhaps homonids were making totally wooden tools long before homo habilis made his stone axes.
 
Maybe!! Who thinks it would be unwise to advance their learning? Introducing bow and arrows, creating prisons for their prey so they can just farm them.

And then..we'll introduce fire.

We shall be as gods. Now i know what Captain Jean Luc Picard feels like.

Make it so.
 
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