Christian right strongarms Microsoft

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Microsoft Weighs Reversal on Gay Rights, Gates Says

the bad:

"Bill Gates, the founder of Microsoft, has indicated he may reconsider his company's decision not to support a Washington State gay rights bill amid the growing firestorm inside and outside the company that exploded after the recent disclosure that Microsoft had changed its position on the bill."

"He also suggested that Microsoft, which had been known for decades as a corporate leader on gay rights and had supported the bill in previous years, might change course next year because of the controversy"


the ugly:

"Microsoft had withdrawn its support, and critics said the company was under pressure from a prominent local evangelical minister who threatened a boycott of Microsoft products."



the scary:

"Critics, including gay rights activists and people inside and outside the company, have produced a flood of e-mail and comments on Web logs over the past few days with outraged reaction to the company's decision not to support the bill. They have also attacked the company for paying Ralph Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition and a close ally of the Bush administration, as a communications consultant.

Company officials said Mr. Reed had been on retainer for several years. He earned $20,000 a month over the last six months, according to invoices obtained by Americablog.com, a left-leaning Web log run by John Aravosis, a writer and political consultant.

Mr. Reed remained on the Microsoft payroll even after a controversy erupted in 2000 over his lobbying Gov. George W. Bush, who was then a candidate for president, on behalf of Microsoft during its antitrust battles, while also serving as an adviser to Mr. Bush's campaign. Mr. Reed later apologized for creating the appearance of a conflict. "



notice that there's no "the good" :(
 
why is homosexuality so terrible? because christians dont like it? what happened to seperation of church and state :frown:

i want religion to get the **** out of my countries politics.
 
scary

kmack thats a controversial sig - i hope thats meant to be ironic
the latter part i mean
 
the christian right = new fascism


"Unfortunately, religion, like patriotism, is easy to misuse for political purposes.
- Kjell Magne Bondevik


"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." - Robert A. Heinlein


I think you can judge from somebody's actions a kind of a stability and sense of purpose perhaps created by strong religious roots. I mean, there's a certain patience, a certain discipline, I think, that religion helps you achieve. - George W. Bush


The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion. - Arthur C. Clarke



The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. The religion which based on experience, which refuses dogmatic. If there's any religion that would cope the scientific needs it will be Buddhism. - Albert Einstein


"Just in terms of allocation of time resources, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing on a Sunday morning." - Bill Gates

"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and the private school, supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the church and state forever separate." - Ulysses S. Grant
 
Grant must be spinning in his grave
the only truth marx ever said -
"religion is the opium of the masses"
how true and how sad
 
john3571000 said:
kmack thats a controversial sig - i hope thats meant to be ironic
the latter part i mean

i have decided that (in light of the new florida gun laws) if some people are going to abuse our rights and take it to the extremes with things like the right to bear arms, im going to do so with my right to free speech.

there is no irony or sarcasm in my sig :|
 
It's terribly difficult to seperate church and state since all our laws and moral judgements are based on religeon somewhere down the line. The church though is not always the perfect example of religeon and faith.
 
ok now this just proves it! If microsoft is following the christian right, and the bush administration, it is now fact... The christian right/bush administration are officially the evil empire... If Bill Gates is on your side, then you might as well include satan himself to that list of allies...
 
Innervision961 said:
ok now this just proves it! If microsoft is following the christian right, and the bush administration, it is now fact... The christian right/bush administration are officially the evil empire... If Bill Gates is on your side, then you might as well include satan himself to that list of allies...
So by that logic, the "gay rights" movement was evil when Gates was on their side?
 
Its a joke....
Didn't know I had to explain it.... Whatever, i'll play along..


"Oh you got me, I give up, you are the bestest at intarweb arguments, you must have a ginormous epenis!!!!!!, go you!"
 
Innervision961 said:
Its a joke....
Didn't know I had to explain it.... Whatever, i'll play along..


"Oh you got me, I give up, you are the bestest at intarweb arguments, you must have a ginormous epenis!!!!!!, go you!"
****ing owned, bitch.
 
oh noes... I'm owned... Whatever shall I do?
Oh thats right absoultely nothing, because your an idiot.
 
Innervision961 said:
oh noes... I'm owned... Whatever shall I do?
Oh thats right absoultely nothing, because your an idiot.
I am the idiot? You are the one who can't take a joke.
 
Foxtrot said:
I am the idiot? You are the one who can't take a joke.

this started off because YOU couldnt take a joke :rolleyes:

so anyways back to topic :thumbs:
 
Innervision961 said:
ok now this just proves it! If microsoft is following the christian right, and the bush administration, it is now fact... The christian right/bush administration are officially the evil empire... If Bill Gates is on your side, then you might as well include satan himself to that list of allies...
as i see it, MS doesn't really care about gays (for or agaist), but they do care about their sales, so which ever side is going to be positive for their business, that side the MS will take
it's not about morals, it's about making dough
 
actually that's not true ..M$ has always been good about equal rights ...for example they extend benefits to same sex partners which isnt the case with most corporations
 
kmack said:
this started off because YOU couldnt take a joke :rolleyes:

so anyways back to topic :thumbs:
But I was joking, and he didn't take it as a joke.
 
Ugh, this is ridiculous... Supposed lovers of freedom bullying people into getting their own little way because they're too ****ing intolerant to accept people might actually be a little different to their own shitty groupthink?

I hope they all fall into a pit of homosexual Microsoft employee cannibals :)
 
CptStern said:
actually that's not true ..M$ has always been good about equal rights ...for example they extend benefits to same sex partners which isnt the case with most corporations
were u refuring to my post, if yes, it's still true, they been good because it would be "unpopular" to go agaist homosexuality

ps
Kangy
your aviator scares the shit out of me, i have a fear of clowns
 
That honestly scares me a little bit. They must have truly significant pull if they can push MS around like that.
 
Well as I sit here I'm not worried about that....


....I just want ****ing longhorn.
 
iyfyoufhl said:
were u refuring to my post, if yes, it's still true, they been good because it would be "unpopular" to go agaist homosexuality

I agree, but other companies dont have the same level of benefits and they dont do it so because it's unpopular ...although the more I learn about americans attitudes towards homosexuals the more I start to doubt my own statement
 
Can someone explain why this is important, cause what does it matter if bill supports it or not.
 
CptStern said:
I agree, but other companies dont have the same level of benefits and they dont do it so because it's unpopular ...although the more I learn about americans attitudes towards homosexuals the more I start to doubt my own statement
true, but u also have to consider that MS is a huge corp. and the public has it's eye on it 24/7 after all those issues they had, they are also a monopoly
they will do anything just to look good in public's eye
 
I agree ...kinda like all the quit smoking ads from Phillip Morris lately ...idiots think we cant see through their insincere crap
 
I doubt this is real, no one ****s with Microsoft. Bill Gates alone could have all those people killed and no one would ever know.
 
CptStern said:
I agree ...kinda like all the quit smoking ads from Phillip Morris lately ...idiots think we cant see through their insincere crap
idiots? no, my man, anti-smoking ads are just one of their "good cards" that they will use in court later, they dont' care if you see through or not, it's a matter of doing it or not doing it
 
Foxtrot said:
I doubt this is real, no one ****s with Microsoft. Bill Gates alone could have all those people killed and no one would ever know.
Agreed. :sniper:
 
Kangy said:
Ugh, this is ridiculous... Supposed lovers of freedom bullying people into getting their own little way because they're too ****ing intolerant to accept people might actually be a little different to their own shitty groupthink?

AMEN! :angel: (mmm ironylicious)

now if we can just get those people to see this :dozey:
 
Personally, I think some people could find a better lifestyle, but do whatever you want on your free time as long as it doesn't bother me. Whoever is busting Billy's balls has no real business doing so. Billy is being a pussy and should stand up for his company and his employees.
 
GiaOmerta said:
Personally, I think some people could find a better lifestyle, but do whatever you want on your free time as long as it doesn't bother me. Whoever is busting Billy's balls has no real business doing so. Billy is being a pussy and should stand up for his company and his employees.

I think he is gonna catch some flak for not doing so(defending his employees), maybe he will stand up if this starts to get major media attention.
 
To me, family is everything. I'm Sicilian, maybe it's something in the genes or something, but I see a company as a kind of family. Mr Green down the street has no business going into my house telling my father how to run his family. If he did, I'd probaly beat the shit out of him and kick his ass off our property.

Same should case with Bill Gates. We look down on violence in this day in age, but Bill should basically tell these people to **** off in a professional manner.
 
not too many familys lay off their kids when they want to make more money
 
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