Combine soldiers = slaves?

[Paintballer]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before:

When you watch the movies, when the combine soldiers die, they play the same sound as the slaves in HL. Especially if you watch the bugbait video, they are getting killed a lot. And its not the aliens attacking them, when the big antlion kills the last guards, they make the same noise too.

Anyone have an explanation?

 

[Edcrab]

...I've got no idea what you mean. Or rather, I gather what you're on about but I've never encountered it myself. Both the streaming vids and the Bink .exe vids of Bugbait have no Combine dying with such a sound effect for me :x

 

[MultiVaC]

I don't they are the same species as the alien slaves, if that's what you mean. But soldiers are slaves by nature, especially if they're not volunteers.

 

[Paintballer]

turn up the sound and listen, it might sound like the noise is from the bugs, but its really from the soldiers. Its pretty subtle, never heard it when I first watched them, but if you listen you can hear them. I have the bink videos also.

 

[Rascall]

Placeholders??

 

[niddhoggr]

No, no no.

The alien slaves make a weird "agagagagagga!!!!" when they die.

The combine soldiers make an human scream sound, but the reason it sounds weird, is because you hear it through a radio. And after they die you hear a flat line. "AAAARRGGHH!!! Beeeeeeeeeee....."

Plus, the legs don't bend like an alien slave, and there masks don't have eyeholes in the right place for the alien slaves, the middle arm they have wouldn't fit in the outfit, and they don't use the green lightning.

 

[niddhoggr]

Also, the gas mask isn't the right size for the alien slave head, the slaves had 3 fingers, the combine have 5....

etc etc

 

[Sulkdodds]

Yeah, but are they related to Slaves, I think he's saying. Maybe they are mutated or GM slaves?
The HL2 video: Why will it not work??!?!?

 

[Paintballer]

I didn't really think much into, just thought it was interesting. I didn't go into all the "how many fingers does he have" stuff, which explains why I might not make sense . It still is VERY VERY similar though, and its not just a human scream on a radio, in bugbaut at least. It is the same sound as the slaves, and no BEEEEP after they die.

I have heard the AGAAHHH...BEEEEEEP in the tunnels video, the bugbait sounds are different.

 

[niddhoggr]

No, it was a human scream through a radio. Did you hear in the barricade video when the guy with the flair gun yelled "Over here!" when he shot the flair into the sky? It sounded all muffled strange, because it was through a radio (or maybe it's the gas mask) Or in the trap town video, where you hear one of the combine say "MAN DOWN!", it was a human voice, muffled by the radio or the gas mask.
Listen to those two things and that should clear up any doubt in your mind that it was a human scream.

 

[AzzMan]

I don't really think the soldiers have any relation to the xen slaves at all. I mean just look at their body structures, the slaves look nothin like human (reverse knees, third arm, hunched posture), whereas the soldiers look very human. In quite a few instances in the bink videos you can hear the soldiers speaking english, like the end of the tunnels video you can hear him say "hold it there" right before he gets stabbed, and in traptown one yells "get down" right before he gets smashed with that beam. You can usually hear the beep sound when they die unless theyre too far away I guess, I can hear it in most of the videos, I guess its just a life support system like the one Gordon has in HL1

 

[niddhoggr]

One last thing:

If you look at Barney's outfit in barricade, you can see he is posing as a combine. I think the alien slaves would figure out that there was a stranger among them very quickly.

 

[clarky003]

I think its already been decided that those buzzing high pitched sounds when they Die are some kind of personel monitor / heart monitor, that the combine use to keep survey on whos alive and whos not

 

[Paintballer]

I think its already been decided that those buzzing high pitched sounds when they Die are some kind of personel monitor / heart monitor, that the combine use to keep survey on whos alive and whos not

it must just be me then. In the tunnels video it sounds like you are all describing, the high pitches beeep, and they actually sound human. In the bugbait video, for me at least, they don't have that beeeep sound after they die, and I never hear the human sounds (not even muffled). I know what sounds you are all talking about, but thats not what I hear in the bugbait video. Im not trying to convince anyone that they are slaves or anything, I don't even think that they are. Its just wierd that in the bugbait video they sound exactly like the slaves. Could be a placeholder, who knows.

 

[niddhoggr]

Have you heard the slaves lately? they sound nothing like them.

 

[Paintballer]

Have you heard the slaves lately? they sound nothing like them.

yeah, i just finished hl a few days ago. I think they sound almost exactly alike. I only have two of the videos, but in both of them they're screams sound like a slave. In tunnels i hear the high-pitched death sound, in bugbait i don't. Either way I know they're not slaves, its just wierd. Oh yeah, in tunnels when the guy talks at the end he DOES sound human, just when they die I think they sound really wierd.

 

[niddhoggr]

Oh well, I guess we'll just have to disagree.

 

[Dougy]

it was a place holder.


im 100% absolutely competely sure combine are not slaves.



one scream that sounds like another to 1 guy does not constitute combine are slaves.


if they were then WHY bother putting clothes on? why bother having human weapons? why wear a gas mask? why talk like humans?


WHY?

 

[Bova]

I know what the topic maker is talking about, in some of the videos the Combine soldiers make the exact sound Alien Slaves make when they die, exact as in it must have been taken directly from Half-Life and put in as there death scream. However, I think it was just a placeholder like someone suggested. But to the topic maker you aren't hearing things, it's the exact same scream.

 

[Paintballer]

I know what the topic maker is talking about, in some of the videos the Combine soldiers make the exact sound Alien Slaves make when they die, exact as in it must have been taken directly from Half-Life and put in as there death scream. However, I think it was just a placeholder like someone suggested. But to the topic maker you aren't hearing things, it's the exact same scream.

okay, i knew I wasn't hearing things

And I never thought that the combines were ACTUALLY slaves, i was really just pointing out the similarity of the sounds. This is in fact, a speculation area. I really just needed something to talk about, I'm really getting bored here.

 

[Jhahn2k4]

im 100% absolutely competely sure combine are not slaves.

How do you know?

if they were then WHY bother putting clothes on? why bother having human weapons? why wear a gas mask? why talk like humans?

WHY?

Why? Why?!?

Well, I don't know, but I have an idea.
Clothes, cover up their body so everyone doesn't see that they are Xen.
Weapons, same as above, except 'tis a little bit better that zapper thingy they got.
Gas mask, City-17 might have a smog problem.
Talk like humans, because they have to. OR ALL EVIL WILL ENCROACH UPON YOU!!

 

[Cutey_Kaite]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before:

When you watch the movies, when the combine soldiers die, they play the same sound as the slaves in HL. Especially if you watch the bugbait video, they are getting killed a lot. And its not the aliens attacking them, when the big antlion kills the last guards, they make the same noise too.

Anyone have an explanation?

I guess this would make sense why the aliens arent a major enemy in this game

 

[Paintballer]

I guess this would make sense why the aliens arent a major enemy in this game

Also, I watched a short clip of the beta, and the combine soldiers make the slave death noise also. Still could be a placeholder, I'm not saying anything. Its just the same as some of the e3 vids. DUM DUM DUMMMM

lol whatever happens, Im sure we will all be awfully happy when we finally get to kills those SOBs

 

[niddhoggr]

How do you know?



Why? Why?!?

Well, I don't know, but I have an idea.
Clothes, cover up their body so everyone doesn't see that they are Xen.
Weapons, same as above, except 'tis a little bit better that zapper thingy they got.
Gas mask, City-17 might have a smog problem.
Talk like humans, because they have to. OR ALL EVIL WILL ENCROACH UPON YOU!!

1. there clothes don't match the bodies of the slaves (head size of the gas masks, where the eyeholes are placed, just about everything else I pointed out in my posts...)

2. If C-17 had a smog problem, how come the non-combine humans don't even have paper sheets over their mouths? How come you can see so far?

3. Why would they need to speak english? If they spoke there native language, the humans they were fighting would have a harder time understanding their battle plans and such.

See? there are WAY too many inconsistancies with the combine soldiers and the alien slaves for them to be the same species.

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And when I say don't match, I mean there bodies would simply not fit.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Yes, but maybe they are the same genus? Okay, you're right. They aren't slaves and I doubt their even cousins.