computer crimes

[spunge]

What consequences could you face for some computer crimes, I know some mates who keylog people and i'm wondering what's the worst that could happen?

Also, downloading tons of programs / music / games etc. Has anyone ever really been done over for it?

 

[Acepilotf14]

Jail.

 

[nofx]

Jail and you can receive huge fines

 

[MiccyNarc]

People have been sued and arrested for all of the above.

 

[spunge]

Is it easy to find out who you are though? thousands of people torrent expensive programs, I doubt they could find out who you were even if they wanted to

 

[MiccyNarc]

Is it easy to find out who you are though? thousands of people torrent expensive programs, I doubt they could find out who you were even if they wanted to

IP traces.

 

[CyberPitz]

People have been sued/in trouble...but the odds of you getting caught are tough for downloading.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Yeah, they can trace pretty much everyone, but the problem is that they can't really arrest one quarter of all internet users.

 

[nofx]

Well the problem is when ISPs get involved this where situations tend to get nasty:
http://filesharingplace.be/forums/index.php?showtopic=165728
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/10271.cfm

Also you have to keep in mind pirating wasn't such a big deal and the RIAA/MPPA were making strides initially by taking down Napster and etc. but pirating has become a huge "profit loss" for the corporations and they are getting pretty nasty... but we have a few heroes mainly the Pirate Bay hehe and the likes... so really the judicial set for pirating is growing but slowly growing. Im sure the fines will one day be really heavy if the music/movie associations can buy out the right congress men in USA, or your country,

 

[lePobz]

Downloading isn't a catchable offense unless you are selling what you download (it's illegal but they arent out there looking for you).

Uploading is risky - If you're uploading a lot, and you leave your machine online uploading a lot, you're really walking through a mine field. They are out there tracing IPs.

Installing keyloggers or backdoor scripts on remote machines is one hell of a no-go, unless you're camping outside someone elses house using their wireless network with a laptop with a spoofed MAC address. And even then it's probably traceable if they really want to hunt you down.

 

[Tyguy]

You can actually hack into a server and not face any penalty. However, once you act in a malicious way, thats when you get fined/jailed...

As far as downloading, there are way too many people to keep track of. Im assuming they are mainly looking at people who are stealing thousands of dollars worth of software as opposed to a few songs off limewire.

 

[Acepilotf14]

FREE COPIES OF ANY GAME U WANT, JUTS GIV MEH UR SS NUMBERZ!!!
whe als0 du gift pakajes, jst emal ur frends ss nubmer 2 1 of our representitivives.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

1(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:

a) He causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in a computer;
b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorized; and
c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that this is the case.

Keyloggers violate this. Six months jailtime or a hefty fine, typically.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Link]

Is that why your defence department wants to extradite a british national for hacking? Bear in mind all he did was create a script to guess default passwords and had a look around for files on the alledged aliens landing in roswell. He didn't change/delete anything.

Edit - God you lot respoond fast, my post was in response to tyguy

 

[spunge]

You can actually hack into a server and not face any penalty. However, once you act in a malicious way, thats when you get fined/jailed...

As far as downloading, there are way too many people to keep track of. Im assuming they are mainly looking at people who are stealing thousands of dollars worth of software as opposed to a few songs off limewire.

I don't like the misuse or inaccurate use of the word "stealing". Stealing implies you take something from them, leaving them without it. By the definition you are using, you could say that is it theft watching TV at someones house.

But really, lets say you keylogged someone by sending an exe over an instant messenger. I'm sure firstly you both have a right to privacy so there is no way anyone would know unless they informed the police (or the IM company). Then: if they DID inform authorities how could they trace IP of someone :

#1 who hasn't used the instant messenger or email since,
#2 has a different IP when they reconnect to the internet
#3 Trace it even if they had the contact details and they were using the email account at the time.

I don't see it actually happening and after hearing about real people being keylogged / given viruses it's interesting to know the risks being taken and what could potentially happen to them.

 

[giant384]

FREE COPIES OF ANY GAME U WANT, JUTS GIV MEH UR SS NUMBERZ!!!
whe als0 du gift pakajes, jst emal ur frends ss nubmer 2 1 of our representitivives.

MY EYES!!!!

 

[Tagaziel]

/b/ punishes me for my crimes .

D:

 

[Dekstar]

I'm not fully sure but I think Britain's laws are slightly more lax than America's, but it still stands that people are in danger when they pirate things, which is understandable.
As Spunge said, copying a file is completely different than stealing a file. What you're doing is using a file without permission from the author. Like with any media be it a song or video, all you're doing by buying them is buying a license to listen/watch the item, but you don't have permission to do much else, including copying/distributing the media yourself unless you have a license for that too.

Huge companies like the RIAA etc. Won't go after the average Joe who downloads a couple albums, but they may do to instil fear into the populace, and for the most part it works.
An example of this is a while back one of the big companies like that went after university students, by gaining evidence from the universities themselves. I'm sure this stopped a lot of people downloading, but it'll never stop everyone. At the end of the day morality comes into it a lot. If you think you should buy their goods, then do it. On the other hand, many use the reasoning like "I wouldn't buy this anyway, so I'll download it just because I can. The companies aren't losing out this way." Which is mostly true.

Personally I have no problem with piracy if you can't possibly get what you want from reasonable sources. I mainly torrent TV shows that never aired over here, and thus don't have copyrights for the UK. This involves a lot of anim? like Naruto. In fact, Naruto is a perfect example;
recently, Naruto was licensed by Toonami in America, and translated to English so it could be aired on their channel. Many torrent sites actually stopped seeding the series because it was illegal to host copyrighted content.

 

[hool10]

Could get life in prison. I urge you all to watch this movie (5 parter): [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1fAVteD_zU[/YOUTUBE]
That is how computers and hacking started taking off. By a Captain Crunch toy. :| Now what would happen if he stole millions of dollars from a bank? Or stole identitys and cc's? While you are not holding up a bank, you are stealing lives and vast quantities of money. Don't forget about that HL2 beta hacker! Can't come near a computer for the rest of his life.

 

[Xendance]

I hope that son of a b*tch who hacked my MSN in Febuary gets 6 months in jail, a**hole.

 

[Hazar]

it's a felony here to disclose the information I'm working with at my job.

 

[Qonfused]

If you commit a crime using your computer, the punishment is doubled in the US. That's bullshit.

 

[hool10]

it's a felony here to disclose the information I'm working with at my job.

Yeah me too. If I go up to a scanner and start scanning blueprints, I can get busted. On the corner they have all the legalities and stuff like that. But who the hell would want to know about a machined bracket made of glastic?! It would be illegal though and I would know what I was doing.

 

[mindless_moder]

well for all you know it was probably someone close , someone in your uni , net cafe' ,neighbourhood etc. msn is insanely hard to hack.