Could you do me a favour?

[sonofagun]

Hi guys,

I was wondering whether you might all be able to do me a favour? Ive been on these forums a while and it's a great community, I only wish I could spend more time posting ! If any of you are rap fans im asking you to goto http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/morestyles/homegrowncuts2.shtml and vote for 'FO-AK' and the song 'Guess Who'. Its some mates of mine and their serious about makin it big in the music industry and they've helped me in my mod career so i figured I'dtry n help em' out.

Course if you want download the others and vote for which you prefer thats cool. I'm sorry if im asking a lot for such a small memberof the community but you lot seem alright so I thought there's no harm in asking!

Cheerz guys,

Rob

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

you should tell people to listen to it first :imu: but il vote for your mate...

 

[sonofagun]

cheerz its much appreciated!

 

[The Dark Elf]

and their serious about makin it big in the music industry

They should do proper music then, not "rap" which as everyone knows is only pap spelt wrong.

 

[sonofagun]

its whatever ur into mate. If you don'tlike rap dont listen to it that's cool im not asking people to vote for it if they dont like it Just snyone who does to please give them a hand!

 

[Jammydodger]

I voted but I couldnt listen 2 it coz i aint got realplayer, any chance u could give me a link 2 the track in a diff format as i like my rap.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

They should do proper music then, not "rap" which as everyone knows is only pap spelt wrong.

i realize you're joking, but honestly, rap would mke the most sense if they want to make it big. it's fairly simple, you're hardly required to construct or perform actual music (producers and mixers do most of that for you), and it's probably one of the most lucrative fields of popular music (so many sub-urban white kids to tap..).

i'll check them out when i get home, since my office connection sux.

 

[ray_MAN]

I voted for you, but I hate rap so much. I feel like being nice.

 

[sonofagun]

The rival band got 200 votes in 20 mins from one ip :S! We think they may have a script of some sort. Thanks to all those whon voted! Please could everyone just click thru it takes about 10 secs!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/morestyles/homegrowncuts2.shtml

FO-AK 'Guess Who'

 

[blahblahblah]

deleted as per reason a few posts down

I think that qualifies as an unfair stereotype. I agree with your generalizations about rap music (the same goes for Rock and alternative music). But, you should not disagree with one style of music or another based off of something subjective (the lyrics). It is easy to change the lyrics to something positive about society. Blaming music for problems that are caused by society is dead wrong. I bet if you gave some of those "inner city" people the same education you and I was afforded, they would be going to college and become productive citizens. I suggest you stop acting so self-righteous, because you're not.

 

[The Dark Elf]

I think that qualifies as an unfair stereotype. I agree with your generalizations about rap music (the same goes for Rock and alternative music). But, you should not disagree with one style of music or another based off of something subjective (the lyrics). It is easy to change the lyrics to something positive about society. Blaming music for problems that are caused by society is dead wrong. I bet if you gave some of those "inner city" people the same education you and I was afforded, they would be going to college and become productive citizens. I suggest you stop acting so self-righteous, because you're not.

prove me wrong then.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

huh? whoa.. i never saw fenric's post that blahblahblah just quoted (still don't see the original). i'd respond, but i guess fenric deleted it, so i won't.

 

[The Dark Elf]

huh? whoa.. i never saw fenric's post that blahblahblah just quoted (still don't see the original). i'd respond, but i guess fenric deleted it, so i won't.

Apparantly it attracted the attention of a racist group. I want no part of that sort of crap so I deleted it for that reason.

 

[Sprafa]

Apparantly it attracted the attention of a racist group. I want no part of that sort of crap so I deleted it for that reason.

ROFL!!!!


The 9th power is not a racist group, nor it will be at any time in the future. the inside distingiuishes us, not the outside.

As a matter in fact, we have no wish to prejudice no one.

 

[blahblahblah]

Apparantly it attracted the attention of a racist group. I want no part of that sort of crap so I deleted it for that reason.

Am I the racist? Because I am against racism.

 

[sonofagun]

guys my thread is turning sour all I wanted was a few votes!

 

[Sprafa]

Am I the racist? Because I am against racism.

No. He thought the 9th power was a racist group kase i quoted his poast and put this under it - *the 9th power NGO applauds with Sprafa leading*

 

[blahblahblah]

prove me wrong then.

I know this from personal experience. I went to a "disadvantaged" high school for three years and then spent my senior year in a "middle-class" high school. The difference in the quality of education is dramatic. To expect some of my old friends to go to college is unrealistic. They were never taught the basic necessities (grammar, math, etc) to ever succede in collge. To say that rap music causes problems in our society is wrong. If anything, rap music is a way to describe the societal problems we have.

 

[Sprafa]

I know this from personal experience. I went to a "disadvantaged" high school for three years and then spent my senior year in a "middle-class" high school. The difference in the quality of education is dramatic. To expect some of my old friends to go to college is unrealistic. They were never taught the basic necessities (grammar, math, etc) to ever succede in collge. To say that rap music causes problems in our society is wrong. If anything, rap music is a way to describe the societal problems we have.

He didn't said that. He said that rap encouraged (if you're smart, it doesn't, but there are ppl who aren't) acts that r not very well received.

And that rap stars were in fact kids off the streets saying BS to their next gen and laughing at them, not wasting 1 dime helping what they were once not to happen to others. - this part is the one that the 9th power agress with Fenric.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Keep it on topic guys. I apologies to the original poster, since it seems in an attempt to stop it going off topic I may have inadvertantly forced it to do exactly that, though I stand by my hatred of rap music and the negative effect its having on the youth of today.

And if I see any racism going on there will be hell to pay. The same goes for anyone trying to twist my original statement to meaning the same thing

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blahblahblah, I never had any proper education. I never went to college, i never got any freebies or grants. Just worked, saved and learnt.

 

[blahblahblah]

Okay, lets end this discussion without a blood bath. :thumbs:

I guess we are allowed to have different view points.
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Sonofagun - The website won't let me vote.

 

[sabre89]

They should do proper music then, not "rap" which as everyone knows is only pap spelt wrong.

Pwnt?

Listen to some good music.

 

[Baal]

You probably wouldn't find many people on here that like rap very much.

You would have to search MSN names that have

"Straight Thuggin"

"$$$"

"gunit"

etc etc. to find people like that on the internet.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

whatever guys.. anyone who thinks rap music is in anyway responsible for some sort of societal ills is simply completely uninformed. listen to almost any type of popular music and you'll find sexualy explicit, violence glorifying lyrics. listen to some black-eyed peas or brand nubian, or tribe called quest. rap is as valid a form of expression as any music. do you dislike because it doesn't require any talent? you get up on stage and perform a rap which you have written. see how well you're recieved. it's a craft like any other.

the social situation of those who listen to rap music (predominantly middle-cless-upper-middle class sub-urban white boys, btw) has absolutely nothing to do with the question. it's much more reasonable to conclude that the music is more a reflection of the society than a force to shape it.

it's arguable that rap requires less musical talent than other forms of music, but that's really completely beside the point.

to think that violent, sexually explicit/degrading lyrics can cause people to behave in a way that they ordinarily would not is the same as believing that TV or video games have the same effect. should we do away with violent video games?

obviously these are silly rhetorical questions, so i'm guessing i'm not understanding your point of view, fenric. feel free to illuminate me, or not.

 

[The Dark Elf]

whatever guys.. anyone who thinks rap music is in anyway responsible for some sort of societal ills is simply completely uninformed. listen to almost any type of popular music and you'll find sexualy explicit, violence glorifying lyrics. listen to some black-eyed peas or brand nubian, or tribe called quest. rap is as valid a form of expression as any music. do you dislike because it doesn't require any talent? you get up on stage and perform a rap which you have written. see how well you're recieved. it's a craft like any other.

the social situation of those who listen to rap music (predominantly middle-cless-upper-middle class sub-urban white boys, btw) has absolutely nothing to do with the question. it's much more reasonable to conclude that the music is more a reflection of the society than a force to shape it.

it's arguable that rap requires less musical talent than other forms of music, but that's really completely beside the point.

to think that violent, sexually explicit/degrading lyrics can cause people to behave in a way that they ordinarily would not is the same as believing that TV or video games have the same effect. should we do away with violent video games?

obviously these are silly rhetorical questions, so i'm guessing i'm not understanding your point of view, fenric. feel free to illuminate me, or not.

Your just making excuses for it. Everything I said is based on fact which can be seen just by stepping out of your front door once in a while or watching TV or reading the papers.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Your just making excuses for it. Everything I said is based on fact which can be seen just by stepping out of your front door once in a while or watching TV or reading the papers.

i'm not defending anything.. just calling it like i see it. what i said is based on conjecture, not "fact". neither, of course, is what you said. 'stepping out on the front porch' is hardly a well-constrained experiment, certainly not something to derive "facts" from. while i currently don't, i have lived in some fairly rough (and dominantly black) neighborhoods (my father is black, btw). there are real resaons for the prevalence of poverty and crime in inner-cities. but those resaons are often complex and multi-tiered. rap-music is hardly a major factor (if one at all) in any of that. this is the same kind of thinking that lets people drop their personal responsibility.. "rap made me do it!". what was that, judas priest that made some kid commit suicide? hardly.

if you have and references for the 'fact' you spoke of, i'd be happy to check them out. please point me to anywhere TV news or a newspaper has discovered the causal link between listening to rap music and crime or whatever.