*DEFINITE SPOILER ALERT* Return of the King - Discuss the movie here

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Well, I just got back from my first viewing of ROTK and what can I say other than WHOA!

All the reviews saying how wonderful this movie was for a change were true.. without a doubt I would give this movie 9.9/10 and the only reason it isnt getting a 10 is that some of the special effects as with all three movies werent upto scratch (like the 'legolas jumping on a horse' scene in The Two Towers).

A few examples of effetcs that needed 'work' - > The Army of the Dead, which was handled pretty well, but they did kinda look fake (but then, how do ghosts look?).. , The Deagol being pulled along by the fish at the start scene.. etc.

How scary did the Nazgul look!? Oh and the Witch King!! Sheesh!

Did anyone else notice Peter Jacksons cameo on the boat?

This film may have had a running time of 3hr 20min but it most certainly didnt feel like it.

Oh and for the 'hard' men I'd wait for the DVD release as this is defo a tear-jerker at points (funny seeing all the 'blokes' in the cinema rubbing their eyes during the movie).

Enough ranting.. oppinions?
 
How many of these movies are there? In order which is the newest and which is oldest? I wanna watch them all in one day I think, because I seen the first one and all I can remember is the end.

Edit/ Our avatars got the same color scheme going eh? :naughty: Whats the symbol on yours mean?
 
I'm not sure if they were still working on the special effects for the return of the king were still being created before it hit theaters but to my knowledge they did all the grunt work of the special effects 3 years ago when all three fillms were being completed. I saw it today and I think it lives up to the book. I read the Lord of the Rings a couple of years ago and it was the best book by far that i have ever read. So, of course i knew what the ending would be like, but was still thinking...."Are they going to destroy the ring!?" As frodo was standing on the bridge staring at the ring. Overall...it definitly beats the other two. Thought battlescenes would lose my attention because they are so long but i found to be very much drawn in the whole time.

Perhaps Half Life 2 will be to games as Lord of the Rings is to movies. (Emotion attachments to characters, etc... and the fact that you never want it to end!) Hopefully HL2 will surpass its hype.
 
I have never been to a movie like this one before. Nothing, NOTHING, can compare to the experience that is the Return of the King. The theater was full, not a seat in the house, and by the films end, almost everyone was in tears. That's not an exaggeration either, the entire crowd was crying, laughing and clapping by the time the credits rolled. I thought the army of the dead was great, and the witch-king kicked ass! I only had two complaints:

1) Where the hell was the mouth of Sauron?!?! They had all the build up for him to appear, but he did not.

2) Frodo's rescue from the tower after being taken captive felt a bit rushed, and was missing some stuff that I cherished from the books. No big deal though.

One other complaint, that has nothing to do with the film at all, would be the jackasses behind me. They were content to snicker and call Legolas a "fag" every time he showed up on screen (especially at the end with the headband and the tight suit), and make barfing noises every time Sam or Frodo would show each other affection of any sort (that reached it's climax at the end where Frodo kisses Sam on the forehead). Of course, they were a couple of 16 year old males, a product of a homophobic society, but that's off topic. ROTK was the greatest part of the greatest trilogy ever created!
 
SilentKilla said:
How many of these movies are there? In order which is the newest and which is oldest? I wanna watch them all in one day I think, because I seen the first one and all I can remember is the end.

Edit/ Our avatars got the same color scheme going eh? :naughty: Whats the symbol on yours mean?


My avatar is the logo for Oxfam.

There are three 'Lord of the Rings' movies. In order:

Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
 
qckbeam said:
2) Frodo's rescue from the tower after being taken captive felt a bit rushed, and was missing some stuff that I cherished from the books. No big deal though.

Apparently the 1st edit of ROTK was 4hr 30min so that gives you an idea of the length of the SEE. Hopefully this material will be re-inserted.
 
It was splendid. It seems that finally Peter Jackson has finally broken the Part 3 curse, making a film that is beautiful, powerful, and pleasing to all the fans and all the critics.
My goodness, the battle scenes (two of them) were awesome! Think Braveheart, now multiply be three. But there's one other CG creation that steals the show: Shelob. The first time you see her, you're saying to yourself: "She is NOT CG". Maybe she isn't. Regardless, it's probably the trilogy's most scariest monster, swift and deadly.
I also like how close to the book this film is. It's nice that Shelob is now in RotK, because that's how things are timeline-wise. But there are more exact plot points and dialogue that seemed to be ripped right out of the pages, especially the final shot with Samwise.
Music was, of course, great with two new themes: the Gondor them (played with splendour as Gandalf rides up the seven levels of Minas Tirith) and a new Hero theme that is sung in the credits. Minas Tirith is beautiful. If I ever want a vacation home, that'll be it. It's all about SCALE!
All the actors are very good, nobody ruins it (not even Elijah). I'm afraid Legolas and Gimli are pushed a bit in the back (though Gimli delivers some excellent lines, and you get to see Legolas do some "cool shizzle" again).
Any gripes? Well, Arwen seems to pop in and out, in and out. The film is long (3hrs 20min., not including credits); although I didn't mind, some might. The ending is tier-ed. There are copious amounts of fade-to-blacks, and you're just about to give a standing ovation when it continues. I've never seen this before, so it was awkward for me. But I guess a trilogy of this scope deserves "multiple endings" (as Yahoo! has coined it). And the fact that it has ended: what is bound to be one of the greatest trilogies of all time, saddens me. Peter Jackson has truly delivered something magnificent that will no doubt stand the test of time. It will join Star Wars and Indiana Jones as some of the best and unforgettable cinema we have seen or have come to imagine.
Props to the Cast and Crew.
 
I need to watch the ending of Two Towers. I fell asleep watching it the first time. That whole scene with the ents(right?), where the two hobbits were in the forest with, bored the sh*t out of me.
 
craigweb2k said:
Apparently the 1st edit of ROTK was 4hr 30min so that gives you an idea of the length of the SEE. Hopefully this material will be re-inserted.

Yeah I know, and I have a feeling that most of the scenes taken out of the film were on Frodo and Sams journey across the plains of Mordor. That's fine though; I could see the journey getting a little strenuous for the general movie going public. I can't wait for the Extended Edition of the Return of the King since, judging by the other two EE versions, it will be superior to the theatrical edition (although having just gotten back from the cinema that seems to be a nearly impossible feat).
 
Javert said:
It was splendid. It seems that finally Peter Jackson has finally broken the Part 3 curse, making a film that is beautiful, powerful, and pleasing to all the fans and all the critics.
My goodness, the battle scenes (two of them) were awesome! Think Braveheart, now multiply be three. But there's one other CG creation that steals the show: Shelob. The first time you see her, you're saying to yourself: "She is NOT CG". Maybe she isn't. Regardless, it's probably the trilogy's most scariest monster, swift and deadly.
I also like how close to the book this film is. It's nice that Shelob is now in RotK, because that's how things are timeline-wise. But there are more exact plot points and dialogue that seemed to be ripped right out of the pages, especially the final shot with Samwise.
Music was, of course, great with two new themes: the Gondor them (played with splendour as Gandalf rides up the seven levels of Minas Tirith) and a new Hero theme that is sung in the credits. Minas Tirith is beautiful. If I ever want a vacation home, that'll be it. It's all about SCALE!
All the actors are very good, nobody ruins it (not even Elijah). I'm afraid Legolas and Gimli are pushed a bit in the back (though Gimli delivers some excellent lines, and you get to see Legolas do some "cool shizzle" again).
Any gripes? Well, Arwen seems to pop in and out, in and out. The film is long (3hrs 20min., not including credits); although I didn't mind, some might. The ending is tier-ed. There are copious amounts of fade-to-blacks, and you're just about to give a standing ovation when it continues. I've never seen this before, so it was awkward for me. But I guess a trilogy of this scope deserves "multiple endings" (as Yahoo! has coined it). And the fact that it has ended: what is bound to be one of the greatest trilogies of all time, saddens me. Peter Jackson has truly delivered something magnificent that will no doubt stand the test of time. It will join Star Wars and Indiana Jones as some of the best and unforgettable cinema we have seen or have come to imagine.
Props to the Cast and Crew.

Shelob didnt seem half as scary as the Witch King Nazgul imo, probably due to scale & noise more than anything and when Eowyn beheadded it I was like "wooo!"

One thing in the movie that did bother me was the sheer amount of crying that Samwise did. At the end of the flick I was almost ready for taking the Smeagol route and trying to throttle him myself.

Did you notice the 1st 'fade to black' was quite long? I'm sure PJ added this in to see how many people would stand up and get laughed at by everyone else! I looked round the theatre and no one was stood up anyway.

One thing that I thought was improved on this year was the Oliphants. In 'TTT' I thought they looked really fake and was very pleased this time round.
 
chu said:
I need to watch the ending of Two Towers. I fell asleep watching it the first time. That whole scene with the ents(right?), where the two hobbits were in the forest with, bored the sh*t out of me.

Wouldn't reccomend TTT SEE then because that has even more of Merry & Pippins aventures with Treebeard!
 
chu said:
I need to watch the ending of Two Towers. I fell asleep watching it the first time. That whole scene with the ents(right?), where the two hobbits were in the forest with, bored the sh*t out of me.

Wouldn't reccomend TTT SEE then because that has even more of Merry & Pippins aventures with Treebeard!
 
One thing in the movie that did bother me was the sheer amount of crying that Samwise did.

He really didn't cry all that much, and whenever he did it was by all means warranted. It wasn't like he stubbed his toe and started bawling. He just shed a few tears because of the suffering he had to watch Frodo endure.
 
God...all this is making me soooo excited. Seeing it tomorrow. I'm glad that it sounds like for the most part it has lived up to the book.

EDIT: Threads always seem to die whenever I post ;(
 
craigweb2k said:
Shelob didnt seem half as scary as the Witch King Nazgul imo, probably due to scale & noise more than anything and when Eowyn beheadded it I was like "wooo!"

One thing in the movie that did bother me was the sheer amount of crying that Samwise did. At the end of the flick I was almost ready for taking the Smeagol route and trying to throttle him myself.

Did you notice the 1st 'fade to black' was quite long? I'm sure PJ added this in to see how many people would stand up and get laughed at by everyone else! I looked round the theatre and no one was stood up anyway.

One thing that I thought was improved on this year was the Oliphants. In 'TTT' I thought they looked really fake and was very pleased this time round.

Well, the Witch King wasn't scary, but yes, he was very loud. Our theatre also cheered though the entire Eowyn scene. "I am no man!"
Well, Samwise did do alot of crying, but is was all for a purpose, so I personally never got annoyed. And it wasn't bawling either, that was ok.
YES, the FIRST FADE TO BLACK was especially long. I was almost scared they were gonna end it right then and there, but the music held it all together, so it was forgivable and it gave the idea of Frodo and Samwise's passing out.
Yeah, the oliphaunts up close looked awesome. "But it still counts as one." ;)
 
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