Doom 3 expansion has a Gravity Gun

[NJspeed]

Title say its all.

But really, how cheap is that? It's such a blatant steal from Valve. I know nothing is original nowadays but cmon, at least give HL2 more than 2 months before copying the most original thing in the game!

 

[Alieni²]

old news...

but my opinion: I dont like it.

 

[Overwatch]

Who cares... doom sucks

 

[CR35]

i think they will implant it in an other way... and doom was good. It sure as hell looked better then hl2. And it also didn't leave much out of it of what we would already have seen. But I like the multiplayer more in hl2 because of hl2: DM en cs: s and the map building. And because I am a big fan of the storyline. But don't say doom3 sucks, they are 2 different types of shooters\

greetz

 

[kupocake]

ID are no longer the type of developer that innovates in anywhere but engine technology: they bother about the engine first, and consider making the game later. Putting a gravity gun in Doom 3 is akin to making a teamplay focused expansion for Quake III because of heavy competition from the UT series. Recognising popular trends well after they happen and making a last ditch effort to bring inferior games up to the standard of their peers. Like Q3 Team Arena, I expect people will stay away from the expansion in their thousands.

Mind you, the gravity gun was a weapon just waiting to happen. It'll be done to death by thousands of inferior games before long anyway, and who is to say that it should remain Half-Life exclusive?

 

[Alieni²]

i think they will implant it in an other way... and doom was good. It sure as hell looked better then hl2. And it also didn't leave much out of it of what we would already have seen. But I like the multiplayer more in hl2 because of hl2: DM en cs: s and the map building. And because I am a big fan of the storyline. But don't say doom3 sucks, they are 2 different types of shooters\

greetz

Well this has been discussed many times and theres many opinions, but i gotta say that HL2 definetely looks much better than Doom3. Reason: Doom3 textures are actually very very low quality. Just go abit closer a wall and it looks like shit. and its IMO too plastic looking. Points to half-life for its realistic looking graphs. But in the other hand ur not supposed to look walls in D3
I too like it, so dont call me a half life fanboy

 

[NJspeed]

I'll probably get the expansion. Doom 3 is alright, hopefully the expansion will be better. I'll still be thinking what a steal it is though, every time I use their gravity gun. But yeah its just a matter of time now and every FPS will have a grav gun.

 

[Danimal]

Who cares... doom sucks

You say that because you haven't experienced it on the harder skills or the media is brain washing you becuase the higher powers of America are shape-shifting reptilians and the government is inserting chips in you... :|

Well this has been discussed many times and theres many opinions, but i gotta say that HL2 definetely looks much better than Doom3. Reason: Doom3 textures are actually very very low quality. Just go abit closer a wall and it looks like shit. and its IMO too plastic looking. Points to half-life for its realistic looking graphs. But in the other hand ur not supposed to look walls in D3
I too like it, so dont call me a half life fanboy

Odd, Doom 3's textures were designed for video cards that don't exsist yet... Unless you have a 512mb video card :rolling:

 

[winnipegartist]

The most original thing about HL2 was the physics, not the gravgun. The gravgun just allowed you to play with the physics more.

I started playing Doom3 after I finished HL2 a couple of times. HL2 got boring really fast and the multiplayer games are bunk. It was way too short and way too easy. Doom 3 is more of a challenge on easy than HL2 was on hard! I liked the gravgun though so I eagerly await it in the D3 expansion.

(Dont get me wrong, HL2 is a far prettier game than Doom3 and is graphically amazing BUT I dont play games to go sight seeing. Doom 3 in my opinion is a far more playable game).

 

[CriYam]

The most original thing about HL2 was the physics, not the gravgun. The gravgun just allowed you to play with the physics more.

I started playing Doom3 after I finished HL2 a couple of times. HL2 got boring really fast and the multiplayer games are bunk. It was way too short and way too easy. Doom 3 is more of a challenge on easy than HL2 was on hard! I liked the gravgun though so I eagerly await it in the D3 expansion.

(Dont get me wrong, HL2 is a far prettier game than Doom3 and is graphically amazing BUT I dont play games to go sight seeing. Doom 3 in my opinion is a far more playable game).

To retort:

"Due to a complete lack of personal interest on my part, Doom3Xtreme.com will no longer be updated and will cease to exist shortly. We tried to be a mod-friendly news website but the sad truth is that most mods will not be completed for Doom 3. With that outlook and the fact that I haven't had the game installed for over 3 months and I don't personally know anyone who does, putting anymore effort into this site seems to be a waste of my time."

and planetdoom added this:

"Well atleast it didn't turn into HalfLife2Xtreme...yet. Good luck guys."

rofl

 

[CREMATOR666]

Carmack's DOOM3 is just a puny creature with eye candies compared to the might of Gabe's HL2. Hail Valve! Hail Valve!

 

[Burn]

You say that because you haven't experienced it on the harder skills or the media is brain washing you becuase the higher powers of America are shape-shifting reptilians and the government is inserting chips in you... :|

...Or he does'nt like it? Maybe?

 

[Asuka]

Old news.

So what if they added a g-gun. Doom 3 was good cant wait for expansion.

 

[Kangy]

Doom 3 was distinctly... average. It got very boring very quickly, and relied on some "scare" techniques about 10 years old. Not impressive, it felt like a tech demo.

This kind of thing shows up the fact that people actually making a game at Id don't really have any original ideas.

 

[Lt. Drebin]

Wasn't this about Doom 3's gravity gun.

Funny how people use this as a spring board to claim Doom 3 sucks. It's no different from any other FPS out there, including HL2. I personally enjoy having fun, not nitpicking, so I think I'll continue to play it, among others...

 

[sabre0001]

old...

Saw this great line in PC Gamer - 'Doom 3 has a gravity gun, dont say Half-Life 2 has a gravity gun, do say thats a great idea'

 

[Pressure]

You say that because you haven't experienced it on the harder skills or the media is brain washing you becuase the higher powers of America are shape-shifting reptilians and the government is inserting chips in you... :|

Actually he says that because he has an opinion. Just because obviously it isn't the same as yours doesn't mean he's been brainwashed.

 

[sHm0zY]

That is a load of bs i hate doom

 

[Maxi]

Seriously, we didn't know this.... I like this site because it hasn't got a search feature.... the Doom3 expansion and it's features were released today... the attack on Iraq was ok.... the US is not at all totalitarian....

 

[ComradeBadger]

old...

Saw this great line in PC Gamer - 'Doom 3 has a gravity gun, dont say Half-Life 2 has a gravity gun, do say thats a great idea'

Indeed.

And just wait for Quake IV. Doom 3 wasn't intended to be anything new, wasn't even marketed as that. Seems to me like a lot of people built the game up in their heads

 

[Bad^Hat]

And just wait for Quake IV. Doom 3 wasn't intended to be anything new, wasn't even marketed as that. Seems to me like a lot of people built the game up in their heads

Yeah, people tend to do that.

<_<

>_>

 

[Kyorisu]

Doom 3 was distinctly... average. It got very boring very quickly, and relied on some "scare" techniques about 10 years old. Not impressive, it felt like a tech demo.

This kind of thing shows up the fact that people actually making a game at Id don't really have any original ideas.

Thats becuase it is a tech demo.

 

[Gargantou]

Pretty much true, Doom 3 was basically a game to showcase the power of the engine, pretty obvious if you ask me, because the game succeds very well at doing that I love the soldiers, I just wish there was some friendly squad AI when you play as a marine, that'd been nice.

 

[phantomdesign]

No matter how obvious or unobvious the after-thought of a gravity gun is, the origional idea was very creative & very obviously a central part of Half Life 2. Mimicing it, especailly so soon afterwords is an obvious rip off.

Seriously, what kinds of weapons have you had in past video games? Your basic styles are Meele (fists, crowbar, back end of a rifle), gun (includes "plasma rifles", etc), explosive, mines, and tracking weapons. Sometiems there are small and innovative varyations, like a projectile that bouncess off of walls like a mirror (Descent 2), but practically speaking there haven't been many innovative or truly new weapons. I'd say the gravity gun is the newest, most innovative weapon that I remember in recent gaming history.

To rip off the core of a game only months after it's release is just a blantant disrespect for the cretivity and intelectual property of others. I'm sorry, but ID should know better. They should have at least waited for at least a couple lesser games to rip off the gravity gun. I mean what if someone decided to take innovative features from doom 3 and steal them, like the.....ummmmmmm...uhhhh.......ok, maybe there wasn't anything innovative in the entire game (even the first splinter cell had fancy shaddows without killing your computer).

If the creators of Doom 3 want to make gamers happy, they should [1] add vehicles and [2] improve physics and [3] make the game run faster and [4] make the enviroments have a little more variety (Hmmmm....this corridor looks like the last one that looked like the oen before that, which looked like the one before that, which looked like that other one...that was right before that (even half life 1 levels were 4x as interesting) and [5] add some variety to the environment textures!!!!

 

[Lt. Drebin]

I hope all you that continue to call Doom3 a tech demo realize that the first game out on any engine is, in essence, a tech demo. So go ahead and clump HL2 and especially Far Cry into your analysis.

The only unique thing in HL2, unique because well-done, was it's physics, that includes the gravity gun which was fun for all of 10-15 minutes. We've seen it all before...there is no innovation..none....it's executed well, but not innovative. Vehicles...no. Far Cry and Doom 3 are on the same level. It's all personal preference what aspects you decide to build up in your head. I prefer Doom 3 to all of them, but thats my preference. Don't get me wrong, I like HL2 and Far Cry as well.

 

[Venmoch]

Far Cry and Doom 3 are on the same level.

Far Cry yes but DOOM 3? We haven't seen much as far as vehicles go.

Or how they work in a single-player environment. And as there are none in the Single-Player game anyway its hard to assume how good it really is.

 

[Lt. Drebin]

Far Cry yes but DOOM 3? We haven't seen much as far as vehicles go.

Or how they work in a single-player environment. And as there are none in the Single-Player game anyway its hard to assume how good it really is.

I think you misread my post. I was just saying how vehicles are NOT an innovation in games. Been there done that kinda thing. I wasn't actually saying it should be in Doom 3 or would be a good addition.

 

[Vorac1ous]

I'm going to be honest...anybody who says "LOLOLOLOL Doom 3 suxorz!!!1" or anything relative to that IS MOST DEFINATELY A HALF-LIFE 2\VALVE FANBOY.

I can imagine it. You probably bought it just to see how crappy you thought it was. You only have a GeForce 4 & an Athlon 2400, so you're only getting 20FPS, & which starts your dissing on the engine.

Then you played the multiplayer, which you thought was junk, which it was never even intended to be an MP breakthrough BTW. It isn't all that great, but you don't have to go down ID's throat about it.

And finally, when you saw this topic, you thought to yourself "LOLOLOLOL ID is a copy-catz0rZ!!!1" which probably is true, but ID just thought more fans would like to see a Gravity Gun in more than one game.

AND, what you don't understand is Doom3 is supposed to be a retelling of the original Doom games.

I'd go into more detail, but it's not worth it. It's one thing if you don't like a game, but don't go all over the place saying it's not worth sh*t, telling everyone HL2 is the best thing ever. In reality,
Doom3 is a much better game than HL2. I liked Half Life2, but Doom3 kept me more interested. END OF STORY.

In Reply to the topic, I am glad the expansion is implementing a Gravity Gun.

 

[Chris D]

I'm going to be honest...anybody who says "LOLOLOLOL Doom 3 suxorz!!!1" or anything relative to that IS MOST DEFINATELY A HALF-LIFE 2\VALVE FANBOY.

I can imagine it. You probably bought it just to see how crappy you thought it was. You only have a GeForce 4 & an Athlon 2400, so you're only getting 20FPS, & which starts your dissing on the engine.

Then you played the multiplayer, which you thought was junk, which it was never even intended to be an MP breakthrough BTW. It isn't all that great, but you don't have to go down ID's throat about it.

And finally, when you saw this topic, you thought to yourself "LOLOLOLOL ID is a copy-catz0rZ!!!1" which probably is true, but ID just thought more fans would like to see a Gravity Gun in more than one game.

AND, what you don't understand is Doom3 is supposed to be a retelling of the original Doom games.

I'd go into more detail, but it's not worth it. It's one thing if you don't like a game, but don't go all over the place saying it's not worth sh*t, telling everyone HL2 is the best thing ever. In reality,
Doom3 is a much better game than HL2. I liked Half Life2, but Doom3 kept me more interested. END OF STORY.

In Reply to the topic, I am glad the expansion is implementing a Gravity Gun.

Wrong, actually.

I don't like Doom 3 because I like to have some variance in my gameplay. I did enjoy it, but it did get a bit boring after a few hours of running through the same dark corridors, and killing the monsters and ooh getting a little bit scared as something jumps out of you.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, but I think HL2 and even Far Cry were better games. Simply because they weren't JUST running around and shooting stuff. That's just my personal opinion though.

PS. I have a Radeon 9800 Pro, 2.66GHz P4, 768MB RAM and got the same fps in Doom 3 as I did in Half-Life 2 and Far Cry.

 

[Crushenator 500]

The only unique thing in HL2, unique because well-done, was it's physics, that includes the gravity gun which was fun for all of 10-15 minutes.

I think that your gravity gun was broken

I'm going to be honest...anybody who says "LOLOLOLOL Doom 3 suxorz!!!1" or anything relative to that IS MOST DEFINATELY A HALF-LIFE 2\VALVE FANBOY.

Well compared to what it could have been, yes, doom3 sucked...

 

[PvtRyan]

I'm going to be honest...anybody who says "LOLOLOLOL Doom 3 suxorz!!!1" or anything relative to that IS MOST DEFINATELY A HALF-LIFE 2\VALVE FANBOY.

Funny, so because we don't agree with you, we're immediately a fanboy? Cool. What if I say there are a million games besides HL2 that I like, but I just think Doom 3 was a waste of my cash? Am I a fanboy 'of all other games' to think that? Please shut up.

I can imagine it. You probably bought it just to see how crappy you thought it was. You only have a GeForce 4 & an Athlon 2400, so you're only getting 20FPS, & which starts your dissing on the engine.

It ran fine here, 9800 Pro, everything high. The engine is great, but that's all Doom 3 is. Like Penny Arcade said "I can't wait until someone builds a game with it".

Then you played the multiplayer, which you thought was junk, which it was never even intended to be an MP breakthrough BTW. It isn't all that great, but you don't have to go down ID's throat about it.

So because it wasn't intended to be spectacular, we can't say it's rubbish? Interesting. Yet, that was exactly what it was, absolute rubbish. Multiplayer could have been a lot more interesting with an engine that allows you to manipulate every light. Yet, again, it was crap.

And finally, when you saw this topic, you thought to yourself "LOLOLOLOL ID is a copy-catz0rZ!!!1" which probably is true, but ID just thought more fans would like to see a Gravity Gun in more than one game.

Some creativity from id's side wouldn't be bad either, there are so many more concepts to explore when you look at physics, but id plainly copied the gravity gun. That I don't respect, that's just lame.

AND, what you don't understand is Doom3 is supposed to be a retelling of the original Doom games.

Haha, I could have predicted this statement after the first sentence you've written. Yes, Doom 3 was supposed to be like Doom (2), that would have been nice too, great games they were, but Doom 3 was absolutely _nothing_ like Doom, at all. Doom 3 is a melting pot of all kinds of games and genres, it tried to be an arcade shooter, but didn't have the scale of games like Doom or Serious Sam, it tried to be a horror game, but lacked tension and unpredictability of for example System Shock and Undying, it tried to be a gripping storytelling game, like Half-Life but failed because of a poor story, bad characters. Doom 3 has NOTHING in common with Doom except the name.

I'd go into more detail, but it's not worth it. It's one thing if you don't like a game, but don't go all over the place saying it's not worth sh*t, telling everyone HL2 is the best thing ever.

If that's my opinion, am I forbidden to state it? I think HL2 is a way better game, in fact, I think every game I bought in 2004 was a better game than Doom 3.

In reality,
Doom3 is a much better game than HL2.

Woah, thank you for clearing up that mystery, for a moment there, I thought HL2 was better, but you've put me on the straight road again. I thank you for that.

I liked Half Life2, but Doom3 kept me more interested. END OF STORY.

Good for you. I think Doom 3 was mediocre at best, you think it rocked. Is this settled now?

 

[Bad^Hat]

You guys are largely missing the point here. How are they gonna have a gravity gun if the physics engine sucks in the first place?

 

[Lt. Drebin]

I think that your gravity gun was broken

Honestly. I barely used it until I was forced into it near the end of the game. And thats actually when I found it entertaining. I probobly won't use the one in Doom 3 either.

 

[Lt. Drebin]

I'm going to be honest...anybody who says "LOLOLOLOL Doom 3 suxorz!!!1" or anything relative to that IS MOST DEFINATELY A HALF-LIFE 2\VALVE FANBOY.

I can imagine it. You probably bought it just to see how crappy you thought it was. You only have a GeForce 4 & an Athlon 2400, so you're only getting 20FPS, & which starts your dissing on the engine.

Then you played the multiplayer, which you thought was junk, which it was never even intended to be an MP breakthrough BTW. It isn't all that great, but you don't have to go down ID's throat about it.

And finally, when you saw this topic, you thought to yourself "LOLOLOLOL ID is a copy-catz0rZ!!!1" which probably is true, but ID just thought more fans would like to see a Gravity Gun in more than one game.

AND, what you don't understand is Doom3 is supposed to be a retelling of the original Doom games.

I'd go into more detail, but it's not worth it. It's one thing if you don't like a game, but don't go all over the place saying it's not worth sh*t, telling everyone HL2 is the best thing ever. In reality,
Doom3 is a much better game than HL2. I liked Half Life2, but Doom3 kept me more interested. END OF STORY.

In Reply to the topic, I am glad the expansion is implementing a Gravity Gun.

Yo bro....lets all just cool down. I loved Doom 3 as well. You have other people here that like the game also and some people that don't. No big deal. If they wanna flame the game, so be it...they have no personal stake in it....and they're just tryin to get a rise outa ya. People that have utter hatred for a video game probobly have some problems anyway...ignore them. The important thing is that you loved the game. Thats all that matters...that the game became a passion for you. If you think everyone here hates it, you should feel priveleged as you were able to take something more away from the experience. If you let other people's comments on the boards bug you....you'll lose it pretty quick, trust me. You don't wanna bother getting into it with other folks about something like this...it's silly and far too opinionated a subject. :thumbs:

To be honest with you.....I'm a pretty laid back gamer. I didn't notice half of the things people bitched about in this game until they mentioned it. Just enjoy the game and let everyone else cry about it and who cares what they say....again...you and many others, including me, loved it. :E