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I know I know this movie is like 6-7 months old right now, but I still like Doom, just tell me here what u think about it, I thought it was a good and tight movie.
I think in that movie, Portman was retarded. "I'm gonna lock myself in a hotel room with 3 she mans and do business in there" as he said.
 
What's to be confused about? He likes the movie. Correct the kid and move on.

Ewok, there is already an active thread dedicated to rating movies and I imagine you could discuss it there instead of composing a whole new thread with a whole 2 sentences and absolutely no discussable content.

-since
+sense = spelling ftw.
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
What's to be confused about? He likes the movie. Correct the kid and move on.

As far as I can remember, there was no girl that locked herself in a hotel room with 3 shemales in Doom.
 
TheBleeding said:
As far as I can remember, there was no girl that locked herself in a hotel room with 3 shemales in Doom.
That's because you are misinterpreting what he is saying. The freaky white-trash looking guy that needs to be on meds says early on when he gets off Mars he's going to hook up with some dick-girls.
Ewok is calling that guy retarded.
 
Ahhhh. I wasn't listening through alot of the movie, I was watching it whilst being on the computer. My bad then.
 
It's easy to miss, but I was at the theater completely enthralled in the movie. I thought it was great.
Didn't follow the original story, but no game to movie convesion ever does.
 
Oh yeah, I thought it was a good movie, too. I'm a sucker for action/explosions and things getting blown apart/off movies.
 
I am a huge Doom/id Software fan but I haven't seen this movie yet.

I have heard that the movie doesn't really follow Doom's "story".


Hell breaks loose on Mars and demons run rampant. Thats doom's story. What part of that is too difficult to translate to the big screen?


How can they have got this twisted? Why?

I've heard that instead of Doom's story they did some resident evil virus thing.

:sigh: idiots!
 
VirusType2 said:
Hell breaks loose on Mars and demons run rampant. Thats doom's story. What part of that is too difficult to translate to the big screen?
That wouldn't make sense and would have too many religious connotations.

The basic gist is you have a marine squad called in to wipe out everything at this facility. It starts out as search and rescue but there is this serum, not a virus, that transmutes people into hellish super creatures.

Fun ensues.

Don't want to give too much away.
 
Hilarious movie.
The first person part was interesting. It was like watching a gameplay demo of a game with really good graphics.
But yeah, it was pretty bad. Not as terrible as most other videogame movies though.
 
Da Ewok said:
I know I know this movie is like 6-7 months old right now, but I still like Doom
I've never seen Doom but the "movies are bad after 6-7 months" thing is what annoys me about this thread and yes this guy is definetly a typical Runescape player.
 
I wasn't too...excited about the movie. It was okay..but..not awesome. There were a few funny moments, but the rest of it was too Resident Evil for me. And the first person part was the most rediculous. I was laughing my ass off at how horribly it was done. Oh well :(
 
It was the worst film I've seen since Starship Troopers II.

It was downright shallow, there was almost nothing too it beyond a lazy plot and hammy acting. I honestly don't understand how you can defend it as a good film, granted people have different tastes but the difference between this and even films such as Resident Evil are very apparent.
 
ComradeBadger said:
It was the worst film I've seen since Starship Troopers II.

It was downright shallow, there was almost nothing too it beyond a lazy plot and hammy acting. I honestly don't understand how you can defend it as a good film, granted people have different tastes but the difference between this and even films such as Resident Evil are very apparent.

I concur, and lets admit, Starship troopers 2 was pretty goddam bad.
 
Samon said:
I concur, and lets admit, Starship troopers 2 was pretty goddam bad.
I had never even heard of it 'til I saw it in a shop last year. I rented it, what rubbish compared to the first (actualy, I haven't seen that film in years, but I used to love it)

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"The first-person sequence is only 5 minutes long, despite the original prediction of 3/4 of the movie being first-person."
Three quarters of a film in first person? I haven't seen Doom but the first person thing sounds incredibly annoying.
 
Doom is good because it is fun to watch. Just because it is shallow doesn't mean it's bad.

It means unlike other game to movie translations they did their best to follow the original story and elements that made the game popular.

Doom is everything I could have hoped for in a movie of the calibur.

Look at Silent Hill. Great game(s). The movie doesn't quite follow the story.

It's going to rely on half-assed visual "scares" and be absolutely stupid.
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
That wouldn't make sense and would have too many religious connotations.

What do you mean it doesn't make sense? Maybe you didn't follow the story as well as I did ( I did beat Doom3 13 times) Doom's story makes perfect sense to me when I play the game.

in 2146 Humans were having break-throughs with several working prototype teleporters using semi-functional teleporter technology they discovered on the planet Mars. The teleporters use SHIT LOADS of power and this is the reason for all the power failures there.

They discover artifacts on Mars from an alien or martian race.

Eventually you find out that there was a huge battle between the alien race and hellish creatures to where one teleporter's co-ordinates led to. Hell.

The alien or martian race devised a weapon (the soulcube) to destroy these demons.

Beyond the artifacts and structures left behind by the aliens, there was no evidence found that proved they were ever there. There were no dead or living aliens found, and no clue where they disapeared to.




As for the reason they didn't include hell in the plot being that just wouldn't sell tickets - well what about The Passion of the Christ? Was that the highest grossing movie ever or what?


Maybe they thought since it would have been about hell instead of heaven that it would have been the least profitable movie ever. I don't think it made any difference becuase this movie bombed anyway. So they should have just stuck with the hell plot. that IS DOOM. ANd DOOM has many fans. So why do they think that these same fans won't love the movie for all the same reasons as the game.


In my opinion, they should have just made the movie right. For the fans. To hell with commercialization. *pun intended*

At least it could have bombed with dignity and had a Doom fan cult following.

Instead its a stinky turd. Like I said I didn't see it yet ( I will ) but just about every opinion I have seen has been very bad. 95/100 people just can't be wrong.


And if this movie is worse than the Resident Evil movies well thats pretty bad.

Game to movie translations and visa-versa never go over well. Book to movie translations usually go much better. I think this is becuase books describe every little detail.
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
Doom is good because it is fun to watch. Just because it is shallow doesn't mean it's bad.

It means unlike other game to movie translations they did their best to follow the original story and elements that made the game popular.

Doom is everything I could have hoped for in a movie of the calibur.

Look at Silent Hill. Great game(s). The movie doesn't quite follow the story.

It's going to rely on half-assed visual "scares" and be absolutely stupid.
The dire acting/nonsensical plot/complete departure from the Doom plot made it not fun to watch.

The fact of the matter is, it wasn't even moving into slightly new territory, the whole GENETIC EXPERIMENTATION MONSTERS LOL thing has been done to death, and done badly.

There's a reason why this was voted the worst film of last year..
 
People are too picky and fanboyish over their franchises.

Doom never appealed to me as a game. It's nothing special.
 
I've only ever played Doom 3, and it didn't even appeal to me to the extent that I completed the game..

So no, this isn't a fanboy's rant.
 
I agree with Badger (kinda). I haven't even played Doom 3.

It's just stupid, unbelievable, ill thought-out (so they go into this facility without any kind of backup at all despite the fact that they're 1337 SOLDIERS and then they keep going 'go go go' and running through doors dramatically only to start walking again because there's random scientists who are all like 'hi!'), annoying, stupid, bad dialogue, badly paced, stupid, barren, unexciting, stupid and stupid. And the action isn't even all that good apart from that one sequence with like 500 zombies coming along the corridor and the first-person sequence was average at best.

...in my opinion.

HOWEVER there were elements of the film I liked. The Rock being an utterly evil bastard being one. Doom was one of those films where you can just glimpse how it could have been awesome, but they f*cked it up completely. Whoops.
 
I found Doom the movie to be an enjoyable, mindless, action film. In much the same way that I found Doom the game to be an enjoyable, mindless, action game.
 
Yeah, but a mindless action film has to have actual good action. And Doom had a lot of fruitless running around, a reasonably tense sewer thing, an alright but ridiculous man-on-demon fight, a cool but too-short battle against the zombie horde, a boring FPS sequence and a middling Rock vs Urban battle. Although there were lots of things/ideas/bits I liked:

- nanowalls!
- battle against the zombie horde!
- The Rock is evil and they must stop him!
- Trapped in an exploding facility and must escape!
- The elevator shaft at the end!

Especially about the FPS sequence: it was so leisurely, so smooth, so artificial and so...so...it wasn't even videogamey because at least when you watch people play videogames there's a sense of desperation in their movement. It was like a bad rendered scene and the camera just floated lazily around the place. They should have literally given him a fake gun, put a camera on his head and had him run around inside a facility set while men in monster suits carrying squib detonators for blood-fountains on their chests literally tried to kill him.

Also: THE SOUL IS IN THE DNA WOOO what?

They could have made an awesome, visceral film about eight marines trapped in a facility with a load of demons - hell, all they had to do was watch Aliens, The Thing, Assault on Precinct 13, etc - and instead they made a middling if not absolutely abysmal film about eight cardboard cut-outs trapped in a facility with stupid genetic experiments. And the fact that it's genetics does detract from things, because it's just so boring. Especially when you consider they could have had HUGE FLAMING DEMONS WITH CRAZY EVIL HELL ICONOGRAPHY.
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
People are too picky and fanboyish over their franchises.

Doom never appealed to me as a game. It's nothing special.

Too picky? Fanboyish? Don't think so. I've no care for the Doom series. Doom 3 was an average, dull shooter with nothing but flashy lights to sell it.
 
I enjoyed it for what it is, dumb fun, with some cool set pieces, it was never meant to be the next Alien.
 
stemot said:
I enjoyed it for what it is, dumb fun, with some cool set pieces, it was never meant to be the next Alien.
That's the proplem. All films should try to be the best. They should all aspire to be the next *whatever* or even better, something f*cking original. But it was made to be an average film, because the game's name would sell it. NOTHING SHOULD ATTEMPT TO BE AVERAGE!
 
I'm glad everyone contradicted me on what I thought about their fanboyisness. I was under the impression everyone loved Doom because it is Doom.

So we are in the same boat.

The only difference here is I didn't expect the movie to be much better than the game. I fell asleep watching a Doom 3 speedrun, but I was hooked on the movie.
That should tell you something.

I don't think it as meant to be a serious uber-blockbuster. A great deal of (older) people hate the franchise and want no association with it. I tihnk the director took the right course shoving the movie in the direction it went.

Kinda hacky, not too serious, twisted ending/plot, no overabundance of some jackhole I don't care about and his life story.
It's no Terminator, but I don't want it to be.

I don't see the point in being disappointed with it though unless you are a fanboy.
ríomhaire said:
That's the proplem. All films should try to be the best. They should all aspire to be the next *whatever* or even better, something f*cking original. But it was made to be an average film, because the game's name would sell it. NOTHING SHOULD ATTEMPT TO BE AVERAGE!
I disagree wholeheartedly. The movie was intended to be a Doom splatterfest, and it was. Success.
 
stemot said:
I enjoyed it for what it is, dumb fun, with some cool set pieces, it was never meant to be the next Alien.
This is the problem: I didn't think it was any fun. :p

Excellent example of a dumb fun movie: Sahara.
 
Poor movie in traditional views of what makes a 'B-movie- great. Enjoyed it as a laugh, and being the only one in the cinema (tells you something about how poor it did) gave the feeling of being alone when they were.

If they had done something other than the now repetative 'genetic virus etc' bull, and done a hell based film, with a bunch of normal marines based on the Mars base battling it out to close the portal and prevent Hell spreading. Then it could have been good
 
ríomhaire said:
That's the proplem. All films should try to be the best. They should all aspire to be the next *whatever* or even better, something f*cking original. But it was made to be an average film, because the game's name would sell it. NOTHING SHOULD ATTEMPT TO BE AVERAGE!


Yeah, because if this was true, we would never have had such films as the Evil Dead films, or the Romero dead films, which when first released were slagged off as b-grade slasher/shlock horrors, but over the years have become cult classics, or perhaps we wouldn`t have had the wonderful director Peter Jackson, whose first films were really low budget horrors, which, unsuprisingly, now he`s a big name, have found an audience among the hardcore horror fans.

Hell, even Alien wouldn`t have been made if the studio had had the same attitude as you, as the script was seen as a b-movie sci-fi when viewed by many other movie studio`s.

Fact is, now and again, you want to turn off your brain and just watch a mindless action film (look at Arnies films to see the popularity of this), and films such as Doom, fill this void quite nicely.

A shallow game turned into a film with a shallow story, god forbid, what were you all expecting, even if they had have stuck with Hell instead of a serum, do you think it would have altered the rest of the film that much? I doubt it very much.

Right, I`m off to watch some film that should never have been made because they are not "the best", good luck finding a film that you consider watching.
 
stemot said:
..good luck finding a film that you consider watching.

I recommend HBO Signature channel. I wouldn't waste my time watching half the crap they call movies now-a-days...like XXX 2.. I'd rather stare at the wall and think.
 
Sulkdodds said:
This is the problem: I didn't think it was any fun. :p

Excellent example of a dumb fun movie: Sahara.

Poor, poor example. Sahara - not fun.


:p
 
Pfft, yes it is. It's got speedboats and hilarity abounds.
 
Horrible, horrible movie. Bad Hollywood, bad!
 
Neutrino said:
Worst movie ever made. Ever.
Ever.

Trust me there's far worse movies than this one.

Starship Troopers 2 for example.
 
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