Dragonball Z + GT

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GoJan

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Hi , I'm a 17 year old guy, almost 18 and I still like to watch dragonball Z for some reason. I dont know why but I've always liked this series. Anyone else have this anime series he likes?
 
Yeah, DB and DBZ are very cool, I own the manga-series, though I'm not into that anymore... but I didn't like GT.

See avatar... :p
 
all the dragonball series are extremely repetitive and crappy, i can't be bothered to watch the same crap happening 5 episodes in a row, maybe when i was 5 or something, but definitely not now, and i'm 19
 
Quote me on this: Naruto will be the next DBZ.

It's coming to America at the end of summer.
 
DBZ was the first anime show that I watched growing up. At first glance I thought it was stupid, but after giving it a chance I became hooked for the next couple of years. My favorite battle still is the one with the two Sayains, Nappa and Vegeta. The pacing was great and the fact that many of the cast members were getting killed off kept me intrigued.

The Freeza saga, I felt had the best story because the villians had the upper hand pretty much the whole time. Plus they were on a different planet, which made for some interesting story telling. Having the most powerful known bad guy in the universe also helped. Like the previous saga, this was filled with plenty of emotion.

The Cell saga was a slight step downward, but the time travel paradoxes kept things interesting. I also like how in the end, the whole gang took part in defeating Cell and it wasn't just one man. At times though, this saga felt a lot like the last one meaning that things weren't as exciting. This is also the point where the main draw of the series (the quest for the Dragon Balls) became an afterthought.

The Buu saga was painful. The bad guy was annoying, and things became overly confusing with the whole "I should be dead, but I can come back to life if we use this magical thing that we just discovered for no logical reason" twists. I like to pretend that this saga didn't exist. They should have just ended it at the Cell saga because the ending just worked: the hero was dead, and the torch was passed to his son.

Anyways, I heavily enjoyed the series for the science fiction stuff. The battles were very well choreographed in the first to sagas, but then started to slide. The series also became too predictable after that, and I tried to continue watching but things just got too rediculous (aside from superhumans ninja fighting aliens in huge barren wastelands while occasionally searching for magic wishing balls).

Sayain Saga: A+ (best battle)
Freeza Saga: A (best story)
Cell Saga: C+
Buu Saga: D
(There were other sagas, but they were too small to be worth grading. And I never bothered with GT because I grew up :p ).
 
ARGH i just download 3.95 gig of dragonball GT and its frickin japanese,well screw that.
Whats that naruto about?
 
Urgh I hated DragonBall Z, and I'm not an "anime hater" or whatever either.
 
StardogChampion said:
Quote me on this: Naruto will be the next DBZ.

It's coming to America at the end of summer.
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and this is why i've fallen out of watching anime, and i used to love it so, but these long-ass series that wind around, like the first half of the rurouni kenshin series just piss me off
 
GoJan said:
ARGH i just download 3.95 gig of dragonball GT and its frickin japanese,well screw that.
Whats that naruto about?
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Here's a quote from a website that makes it sound lame, but nevermind:

"Born and infused with a demon nine tailed fox, Naruto was hated with passion by many of the older villagers, and even their children picked up on it and started to hate him as well. Naruto however, felt loneliness and sadness in his life, a pain that isn't normal. He wants to be acknowledged and pledged on becoming Hokage, the title of referring to the strongest ninja in the country.

But he has a long way to go. And will meet many people he calls friends in this world of ninja's, where allegiances shift quickly as lightning. Join Naruto on his journey on becoming Hokage, or perhaps even greater."
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The characters are pretty cool since they all have different fighting styles, and half the fights are one character trying to figure out the weaknesses of the other, so it's not just "Kamehameha!" back and forth for an hour.

Shikamaru - has a high IQ and can control shadows.
Neji - has a bloodline limit (a power given when your born) that lets him see almost 360 degrees among other things.
Sasuke and Kakashi - both have the Sharingan in their eyes (Kakashi only in 1 of his eyes) which lets them copy moves after they've seen them done.
Naruto - Is a so-so ninja at first, but he has a huge power sealed inside him (ninetails fox) that potentially makes him stronger than all of them. He also has a knack for learning to use moves very quickly.
Rock Lee and Gai - They have no special powers whatsoever, but are immensely good at taijutsu.
Gaara - A bit like Naruto, but he has a sand demon sealed inside him, but he can control it's power much better than Naruto.

There are loads more characters but I can't be bothered typing.

and this is why i've fallen out of watching anime, and i used to love it so, but these long-ass series that wind around, like the first half of the rurouni kenshin series just piss me off
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I haven't seen Kenshin at all, so I can't say anything about it.

You could probably check out Naruto since there are 139 episodes out already and you could get through it pretty quickly without waiting for a week for the next similar episode to come out. Naruto does an annoying thing sometimes that extends the length of fights by making a whole episode based entirely on one of the fighter's history. Sometimes you just want them to get the damn fight over with.
 
StardogChampion said:
You could probably check out Naruto since there are 139 episodes out already and you could get through it pretty quickly without waiting for a week for the next similar episode to come out. Naruto does an annoying thing sometimes that extends the length of fights by making a whole episode based entirely on one of the fighter's history. Sometimes you just want them to get the damn fight over with.
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nothing should ever take that many episodes, you just lose focus from where it started
the second thing you mentioned, about extending episodes and fights, again, this is why i won;t watch something like this
there are plenty of good anime that only needed 26 episodes or less to tell an amazing and sweeping story, and they get just as in-depth as anything that takes 100 episodes or more, i mean, look at NGE, or Cowboy Bebop, or Lain, or Boogiepop Phantom, or Please Teacher (a guilty pleasure of mine)
 
Yeah but that's kind of what makes Naruto interesting too. Of all the characters, almost all of them could branch out into his own seperate manga/anime, it helps give the characters more depth and makes you care more about them.

I think the first main boss guy (Zabuza) died in the 20'ish episode range, but he still has loads of fans, and by the end of the fight you end up feeling sorry for him. They could've just chopped his head off in the first 15 minutes but they wanted to spend time telling his side of the story first.
 
I still like DBZ and I'm almost 20. I'm trying to download the entire Buu saga since I missed a lot of it. I really like this saga because of Goku going SS3.
 
gweedodogg69 said:
I still like DBZ and I'm almost 20. I'm trying to download the entire Buu saga since I missed a lot of it. I really like this saga because of Goku going SS3.
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there is another problem i had with DBZ, SS ain't exactly special anymore when there's many different levels of it, whoever came up with that idea should be put in a potato sack and beaten with reeds
 
Stardog, you're a little late on calling Naruto the next DBZ. People've been saying that forever...personally I take offense to it (I'll get to why). And also, Gai has powers. You just have to wait 2.5 years after the series beginning, during the Akatsuki arc, to see them. He just did something impressive about...2 issues ago, I think.

When I was younger I used to like Dragonball Z. However, my biggest problem with it is, and I quote, "NNRRRAAAAARRRGH POWER UP!!!" It's just too damned formulaic how every time they encounter a villain, he's stronger than them. Every single time. So what do they do? Train. "I can't beat this guy NOW, but oh man, in 30 episodes, I'm going to stop you with my finger. Bitch." The fights always play out the same, too. A couple good guys get beat on, then the strongest Saiyan(s) show up and make the badguy say, "What?! Impossible! There's no way you can be that strong OMFG no how did you stop me with just your finger I'm boned!" And there's always a lot of talking, a little fighting, more talking, talking...fighting, talking, it's over. Don't wait thirty episodes, die NOW. And stop with the "oh there's a big cloud of smoke after a big attack, but the enemy is unharmed." Everytime you see that smokecloud, you know they're perfectly fine.
That's really the big problem I have it being compared to Naruto. At least then, aside from the Kyuubi and the Eight Gates, there's no spontaneous bursts of power, enemies die fairly quickly unless they're key players, and there's a little thing called character development. No one in DBZ has any character development. In GT they actually regress development by wishing Goku back into his kid form. Actually I take that back, Gohan had a little development that you got to see. He was more complex than just being a fightmonger.

Also...American GT intro. Enough said, right there.
 
I used to watch DBZ like 2 or 3 years ago but I hated how one fight would be like TO BE CONTINUED over 10 episodes
 
Dbz was the first anime I watched, at around 16 I totally lost interest in it when I found the world of anime was so, sooo soooo much more then deep then dbz, to which is possablely the worst anime to date.

Got to watch DB and DBGT lately, just out of interest to see what happaned in the end, disliked DBGT, but DB was rather funny, liked it alot and it was on a whole different level to dbz.
 
DBZ and Gt arent so great DB was cool
right now Im watching Elfenlied and Ah my Goddess! Elfenield must be the goriest anime ever.
oh yeah and Naruto Im watching that to its very gut sehr gut
 
xLostx said:
I used to watch DBZ like 2 or 3 years ago but I hated how one fight would be like TO BE CONTINUED over 10 episodes
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Yeah that annoyed me too, and we only got about 1 episode a day here so I was like: ARGH .

Soooo, just downloaded it and watched 25 hours of dragonball Z in the last 2 weeks :naughty: (it were exams so everyone was studying)

Now I've seen enough
 
Dragonball Z=good
Dragonball & Dragonball GT=crap
 
DBZ is teh S0xOrrz
anyway there are much better anime out there:Elfenlied,Naruto,Mobile Suit Gundam,AMG! and FLCL.
 
Darkside55 said:
Stardog, you're a little late on calling Naruto the next DBZ. People've been saying that forever...personally I take offense to it (I'll get to why). And also, Gai has powers. You just have to wait 2.5 years after the series beginning, during the Akatsuki arc, to see them. He just did something impressive about...2 issues ago, I think.

When I was younger I used to like Dragonball Z. However, my biggest problem with it is, and I quote, "NNRRRAAAAARRRGH POWER UP!!!" It's just too damned formulaic how every time they encounter a villain, he's stronger than them. Every single time. So what do they do? Train. "I can't beat this guy NOW, but oh man, in 30 episodes, I'm going to stop you with my finger. Bitch." The fights always play out the same, too. A couple good guys get beat on, then the strongest Saiyan(s) show up and make the badguy say, "What?! Impossible! There's no way you can be that strong OMFG no how did you stop me with just your finger I'm boned!" And there's always a lot of talking, a little fighting, more talking, talking...fighting, talking, it's over. Don't wait thirty episodes, die NOW. And stop with the "oh there's a big cloud of smoke after a big attack, but the enemy is unharmed." Everytime you see that smokecloud, you know they're perfectly fine.
That's really the big problem I have it being compared to Naruto. At least then, aside from the Kyuubi and the Eight Gates, there's no spontaneous bursts of power, enemies die fairly quickly unless they're key players, and there's a little thing called character development. No one in DBZ has any character development. In GT they actually regress development by wishing Goku back into his kid form. Actually I take that back, Gohan had a little development that you got to see. He was more complex than just being a fightmonger.

Also...American GT intro. Enough said, right there.
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By calling it "the next DBZ" I was talking about popularity wise. I didn't mean to compare it in any other way.
 
SS2 was no big deal really even when Gohan went SS2 to beat Cell. Only when Goku first went SS and then when he went SS3 were the great moments in DBZ. I also like the SS3 transformation music.
 
gweedodogg69 said:
SS2 was no big deal really even when Gohan went SS2 to beat Cell. Only when Goku first went SS and then when he went SS3 were the great moments in DBZ. I also like the SS3 transformation music.
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ss2 and 3 were both lame as shit, ss was supposed to be as powerful as it got
 
I think Golden Uzaru(sp?) is the true SS seeing as - if i remember correctly - when Vegita was telling of the SS you see a golden uzaru.
 
I used to watch some DBZ back in the day but I never really saw that many. I only caught some of the Cell Saga and most of the Buu Saga. There were/are some great Starcraft and Warcraft 3 maps about those though :D

I don't watch much anime, but right now I watch Naruto and Bleach. I'll probably start One Piece later this summer.

If you're not crazy about these anime's with episodes in the hundreds, check out Hellsing. It's only 12 or 13 episodes (awesome). Cowboy Beebop is a solid series. I wanna say there's 20-30ish episodes and a movie (also awesome). Bleach is still pretty young. It's on episode 37 or something.

Naruto does have a lot more development than DBZ though. Every character has a story that is told (most enemies do too). One thing that was pissing me off was Sasuke's background episodes. They took like 3-4 episodes just showing one attack in the fight between Naruto and Sasuke then going back to Sasuke's past and talking about him. Most of the stuff they were talking about wasn't anything new either.

Most anime's seem to have a main character that's underestimated by everyone, they fight, then the main char gets serious and the cool stuff begins :p

About Naruto:
I'm sure I'm not alone here...but does anyone else think that Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are going to be the next legendary Sannin? Naruto is learning under Jiraiya, Sakura has had a few minor ties to the medicinal abilities of Tsunade (Sakura has been damn near useless throughout the series - medical abilities may be all she's good at), and Sasuke is obviously showing the ambition and hate that Orochimaru shows.

Another theory that I'm sure has been thought of and discussed - Naruto being the 4th Hokage's son (a secret child I'm guessing). Naruto looks a lot like him. It would also explain why Naruto seems to have no parents and why he was chosen for the Kyuubi sealing. Not to mention he's one of the 3 ninja's that have been able to use Rasengan. Wasn't Rasengan originally the 4th's technique?
 
AmishSlayer said:
Naruto spoilers
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Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke are supposed to parallel the Sannin. Naruto has been trained under Jiraiya, and Sakura has learned medical jutsu as well as learning Tsunade's super-strength techniques. Haven't seen what Sasuke's been up to yet.

I used to think Naruto was the 4th's son as well, until recently. I noticed that the Akatsuki leader's silhouette looks like Naruto. Some people think this means the 4th is the leader of the Akatsuki, that somehow he escaped death despite using the sealing jutsu. Personally, I think that the fourth was the brother of the leader of the Akatsuki. It makes a bit more sense. Also, the leader seems to have a preoccupation with getting the kyuubi more than any of the other tailed beasts (could just be because the kyuubi is the strongest), but also in the chapter before last of the Japanese manga, Itachi seemed apprehensive about describing what Naruto looked like to Deidara and Sasori while the boss was listening.
 
Woah woah woah.

I haven't been reading the manga :p I read up until "the chapter before last" or someting in your post and stopped not wanting to ruin any of it for you. I guess I never noticed the Akatsuki silhouette that looks like he could be a grown-up Naruto. Good theory :D That'd certainly make the connection less obvious...but still pretty cool
 
does anybody when the Naruto anime continues?
I have all eps until 138...any nu ones being realeased soon?
 
I didn't like the orginal took about 30 episodes for a fight to end.
GT was alright with the short battles but they were a lil' too short.
 
heh, db. growing up, i saw from db to dbgt. it was great, cuz i was a kid and i didn't know what to do when dbgt ended.
 
There's almost o good anime on Sky that I know of. It's all children's stuff and the bad guy always goes "You friends make you week" the good guy goes "My friends are what give me strenght" and proptly beats the shit out of the bad guy.
 
ríomhaire said:
There's almost o good anime on Sky that I know of. It's all children's stuff and the bad guy always goes "You friends make you week" the good guy goes "My friends are what give me strenght" and proptly beats the shit out of the bad guy.
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That just shows how deep the latest Star Wars movie was... ;)

Apart from the "My friends are what give me strenght" part.
 
The Boo Saga was the best. Had the most meaning and power scenes.
 
DBZ should have ended after the Frieza saga, after all he was suposed to be his nemesis, the Killer of his Father and most of Goku`s race, the thing is, ratings in Japan when they aired this sage were huge, so they got to keep going, ratings were to floor after that saga. And for me, DB the firs saga (whitout the Z) when Goku was a kid was the best saga of all, very creative, alot of good characters and funny moments and great stories, the same cant not be said about DBZ where al revolves around punch kicks and punch again...

PD: Naruto Rocks!
 
Raziel-Jcd said:
The Boo Saga was the best. Had the most meaning and power scenes.
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are you serious? i found the entire buu saga completely unwatchable drivel, i mean, i could barely stomach the rest of the series, but the buu saga was complete crap that went on waaaayyyyyy too long and buu as a character was utterly ridiculous
 
rAdIOhEaD said:
DBZ should have ended after the Frieza saga, after all he was suposed to be his nemesis, the Killer of his Father and most of Goku`s race, the thing is, ratings in Japan when they aired this sage were huge, so they got to keep going, ratings were to floor after that saga.
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I completely agree. The Frieza saga was the best climax they could have come up with. We delved into the backstory of many of the characters (the sayains in particular), it kept escalating higher and higher with more characters and situations, and it delivered one of the most compelling stories I've ever seen on TV.

It should have ended there. But look what happened next:

- A Garlic Jr. saga (which was short, but didn't amount to anything)
- A Trunks saga (Frieza alive? A man from the future? What?)
- An Android/Cell Saga (kinda ties up the Dragonball stuff, but it left gaping continuity errors and sensless twists: "Don't kill anyone please, and I promise we'll fight you in a tournament thing in a week or so" ...crap!!)
- Everything after that (don't get me started)

They pulled the old "let's throw everything but the kitchen sink" thing. It's upsetting that I still watched the series after the Frieza saga, especially since the series ended up like this.

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The end of GT (dark Dragonballs) should have been done right after Frieza.
 
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