Enemy Territory 2

TheSomeone · May 20, 2005

Being a HUGE fan of RTCW: Enemy Territory, this almost made me cry of joy (almost) (EDIT: fine, I cried. There.)

http://pc.ign.com/articles/616/616885p1.html

Agent.M · May 20, 2005

Already a 4 page thread on this!

CptStern · May 20, 2005

I'm a huge Enemy territory fan ...this is NOT enemy territory ...just has a similiar name but none of the same elements that made that game great are present

Asuka · May 20, 2005

Game looks great. Cant wait for it!

TheSomeone · May 22, 2005

CptStern said:
I'm a huge Enemy territory fan ...this is NOT enemy territory ...just has a similiar name but none of the same elements that made that game great are present

5 different classes, including medics and artillery, series of objectives gameplay, XP, how is this not Enemy Territory?

B-MAn · May 22, 2005

IS this using the Doom Engine? It can;t be

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/748/748377/img_2798684.html

Absinthe · May 22, 2005

I'm really looking forward to it, but I wonder how Quake-ish the game will actually be. This seems to be taking a more tactical and strategic approach as opposed to straight-up fragging.

KoreBolteR · May 22, 2005

wow that screen looked amazing :O

Warbie · May 22, 2005

TheSomeone said:
5 different classes, including medics and artillery, series of objectives gameplay, XP, how is this not Enemy Territory?

ET: QW will be a fun game - but in a very different way.

The strength of rtcw and, to less of an extent, et was their excellently designed and balanced small/medium sized maps. Add the great use of classes and you get the best teambased shooters and clan games ever made imo.

Increase the number of players, add large maps and vehicles, and you always end up with massive BF1942 spam fests - this is always the case. Great fun on public server - and an excellent way to enjoy a few hours with your firneds, but not the pure teamplay experience that made rtcw and et amazing.

(ET was always going this way a little - which is why it was never the clan game that rtcw was ......... it's only popular maps, and the only ones used in matches, being the ones that were very 'rtcw'. It seems there's no rtcw left in et anymore now :/)

Lucid · May 22, 2005

Will it still be free?!

CptStern · May 22, 2005

TheSomeone said:
5 different classes, including medics and artillery, series of objectives gameplay, XP, how is this not Enemy Territory?

ww2: axis vs allies

quake wars: futuristic humans vs advanced aliens

I thought it was pretty self-explanatory

dont get me wrong, I look forward to this game ...but it lost some of it's RTCW roots

Cons Himself · May 22, 2005

there are some gameplay links though cptstern

and those screenshots were the best looking of E3, fk killzone 2 - it wasnt even real

Gunner · May 22, 2005

TheSomeone said:
5 different classes, including medics and artillery, series of objectives gameplay, XP, how is this not Enemy Territory?

It's in the sucky quake universe. OMG STROGGS!!

Lame.

TheSomeone · May 22, 2005

xlucidx said:
Will it still be free?!

If I hear that one more time, I'm gonna crack. Do you people have no notion of money involved in making a game? ET was only slightly changed from an already existant one, there building an entire game from scratch here. It takes MONEY, and it takes PEOPLE.

CptStern said:
ww2: axis vs allies

quake wars: futuristic humans vs advanced aliens

ET played more like an arcade game than a WW2 game to me. Thompson that shoots 2 bullets per seconds and takes 3 headshots to kill someone? How is that anywhere close to WW2? Sure, it's skin and modeled after a WWII weapon, but if you played ET to relive the 1940s in Europe, you're playing the wrong game. There's CoD and Brothers In Arms for that. And since when was a game solely based on it's graphics and not its gameplay? I agree with "Cons Himself", there are some gameplay links, and you can't ignore those.

Cons Himself said:
and those screenshots were the best looking of E3, fk killzone 2 - it wasnt even real

That's not necessarily true, in the most recent interview the developer says "Oh yeah, this is pure in-game gameplay. This isn't CGI". But yeah, QW looks better than Q4 in my opinion. UT 2007 had better graphics though, but it's coming out a year later.

Gunner said:
It's in the sucky quake universe. OMG STROGGS!!

Lame.

Good, that way I dont have to play with whiners like you if you don't buy the game. The problem takes care of itself.

Warbie said:
ET: QW will be a fun game - but in a very different way.

The strength of rtcw and, to less of an extent, et was their excellently designed and balanced small/medium sized maps. Add the great use of classes and you get the best teambased shooters and clan games ever made imo.

Increase the number of players, add large maps and vehicles, and you always end up with massive BF1942 spam fests - this is always the case. Great fun on public server - and an excellent way to enjoy a few hours with your firneds, but not the pure teamplay experience that made rtcw and et amazing.

Okay, but this isnt' a sequel to RTCW. They're making a sequel for RTCW but neither Splash Damage nor ID is responsible, and they didn't even announce it at E3.

About your second point, I can see why you'd think it'd turn into a spam fest, but what greatly differs between BF1942 and ET is that ET has series of precise objective. First dynamite this, then build this, then dynamite some more so you can win the game, etc... Acoording to the developers, that part of the gameplay is staying. That means the maps linearity will prevent vehicle spamming all across the map, since you'll still have to focus on objectives.

Absinthe said:
I'm really looking forward to it, but I wonder how Quake-ish the game will actually be. This seems to be taking a more tactical and strategic approach as opposed to straight-up fragging.

How can you make that conclusion? From the screenshot?

That's the end of my rant. Sorry if I sounded angry or offensive anywhere above, I still love all of you.

<3

Lucid · May 22, 2005

TheSomeone said:
If I hear that one more time, I'm gonna crack. Do you people have no notion of money involved in making a game? ET was only slightly changed from an already existant one, there building an entire game from scratch here. It takes MONEY, and it takes PEOPLE.

Yeah...but...
Will it be free?! :bounce:

Lemonking · May 22, 2005

meh gay no Game impresses me lately...except Killzone2.

mindless_moder · May 22, 2005

http://pcmovies.gamespy.com/pc/vide...m/media/748/748377/vid_1130657.html?mu=<URL/>
if anyone wants to watch te trailer.
it seems amaing . i surely differs from the style of the current et but i think its going to be great. although from that vid it looks like the uake side has all the uber weapons :S

Absinthe · May 22, 2005

TheSomeone said:
How can you make that conclusion? From the screenshot?

The screenshots. The video. The indescribable "vibe" I've gotten from it so far.

Not that I'm against it or anything. It just seems different from what I'd expect.

Absinthe · May 22, 2005

Lemonking said:
meh gay no Game impresses me lately...except Killzone2.

Why do you insist on calling anything you're not interested in gay?

xlucidx said:
Yeah...but...
Will it be free?! :bounce:

No. Why would it be?

Tr0n · May 22, 2005

Absinthe said:
Why do you insist on calling anything you're not interested in gay?

No. Why would it be?

Well RTCW: ET was free...

Shakermaker · May 22, 2005

It looks great. I just hope it will tend a bit more to tactical gameplay, than run-and-gun.

TheSomeone · May 22, 2005

Tr0n said:
Well RTCW: ET was free...

Okay, for all those with an IQ of below 47:

RTCW: ET was free for the following reasons:

-It was already built off of a pre-existing game.
-Contained very little new non-gameplay related content.
-That means no big changes in models, skins, etc...
-And it didn't even have that much gameplay change.
-Was deemed unfit for sale some time after development.
-It was supposed to be a 30 dollar expansion pack anyways.

Do any of these apply to Quake Wars?

Please have at least SOME common sense, how the hell are these people going to make money to feed and clothes their children by spending their life making a new game for free?

TheSomeone · May 22, 2005

Shakermaker said:
It looks great. I just hope it will tend a bit more to tactical gameplay, than run-and-gun.

Why? That's what ET is all about...

Shakermaker · May 22, 2005

TheSomeone said:
Why? That's what ET is all about...

It's fast, but it isn't like UT2k4.

Cons Himself · May 23, 2005

ut is slow compared to quake....well quakeworld was the fastest game ever

quake 3 wasnt too slow either

TheSomeone · May 23, 2005

UT2k4 is slooowwww... It's not necessarily a bad thing, but go play ET for 20 minutes, then go play UT. You basicly crawl everywhere.

Cons Himself · May 23, 2005

true. but et is still slow compared to quakeworld

CptStern · May 23, 2005

TheSomeone said:
ET played more like an arcade game than a WW2 game to me. Thompson that shoots 2 bullets per seconds and takes 3 headshots to kill someone? How is that anywhere close to WW2? Sure, it's skin and modeled after a WWII weapon, but if you played ET to relive the 1940s in Europe, you're playing the wrong game. There's CoD and Brothers In Arms for that. And since when was a game solely based on it's graphics and not its gameplay? I agree with "Cons Himself", there are some gameplay links, and you can't ignore those.

sure it was arcadey ..the medics reviving dead soldiers with syringes was a dead give away

the objectives, voice commands, classes and even gameplay suited the ww2 setting ..sure it wasnt an authentic experience but what multiplayer game is?

besides the classes I dont see too many similiarities between et and et2 ..that said, it doesnt mean et2 wont distinguish itself in other ways

Cons Himself · May 23, 2005

thats like saying theres not many simmilarities between TFC and Quakeworld TF (TF1 for the slow) aside from the classes.

the class system is what MAKES the game.

ray_MAN · May 23, 2005

Sorry, this isn't Enemy Territory. This is Quake 4 MP. The real Quake 4's MP is going to be like Quake 3, so in order to make a Quake 4 based MP, they did this shit.

CptStern · May 23, 2005

you mean the classes that were inspired by ww2?

TheSomeone · May 23, 2005

CptStern said:
you mean the classes that were inspired by ww2?

You mean the ones that exist in every class based game ever?

Cons Himself · May 23, 2005

the game is called Enemy Terrioty: Quake Wars. its a sequel to Enemy Territory. are you telling me there will be no simmilarities? this isnt re inventing the wheel here.

mindless_moder · May 23, 2005

it might not be free but they might make a version of the game that is free like a multiplayer demo.

MultiVaC · May 23, 2005

Will this game have objectives, like Wolfenstien ET?

TheSomeone · May 23, 2005

ElFuhrer said:
Will this game have objectives, like Wolfenstien ET?

Yes, that's the whole point of it being called Enemy Territory. It will have main objectives in a series as well as optional side objectives that will aid in the completion of the main of objective.

CptStern · May 26, 2005

WolfET and Quake Wars unrelated

"It has nothing to do with Wolf. The "Enemy Territory" name is due to
Splash Damage's multiplayer design skills being the drive behind the
game. There could be other ET games in the future in different settings."

John Carmack

Warbie · May 26, 2005

The thought of RTCW 2 makes me dizzy with excitement

CptStern · May 26, 2005

Warbie said:
The thought of RTCW 2 makes me dizzy with excitement

it makes me nauseous with excitement ...hopefully they'll do away with the shuffling zombies

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