Ever wake up and feel that deep empty feeling?

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Not really a helplife2 thread, since I'm not looking for help really.

Just want to know really if other people here wake up some days and feel completely empty inside. I don't know if it's really an emotional void, but perhaps it is. Difficulty concentrating on things and really doing much at all other than just vegetating around in a depressive state. Though it's not the usual sort of depression I feel either.

It's just a feeling of emptiness inside. And it typically lasts a couple days or a few months.
 
Raziaar said:
What?
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Awww, it wasn't even that long ago. How'd you forget already? Firestarter...dude who made all the sad threads, turned out to be a liar? Remember I kept saying...ffs it was only like a month ago!
 
Darkside55 said:
Awww, it wasn't even that long ago. How'd you forget already? Firestarter...dude who made all the sad threads, turned out to be a liar? Remember I kept saying...ffs it was only like a month ago!
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Oh... I think I only responded once in the one thread he made about his sister having died. I didn't get much deeper involved than that and I didn't really notice him other than that.

I'm certainly not like him though.



EDIT: LOL Sulkdodds, you so crazeh.
 
Oh. Well, he was a liar. His sister didn't die. I'm not even sure he had a sister. But anyway, I kept saying I was going to use him like a little sadness battery to bring down the forum's spirits.

It's only relevant because you've got the sadness going on. This is like the second time I've quoted your sig in a week. Maybe you're just feeling lethargic, man. If there is an "emotional void," it'd do you good to look inward and see if there's anything you feel like you're missing rather than asking the forum. I know you said you weren't looking for help, but it kinda sounds like maybe you made this thread for some roundabout advice.

Or at least to know that you weren't the only one feeling this way.

Which I suspect you're not.
 
Darkside55 said:
Oh. Well, he was a liar. His sister didn't die. I'm not even sure he had a sister. But anyway, I kept saying I was going to use him like a little sadness battery to bring down the forum's spirits.

It's only relevant because you've got the sadness going on. This is like the second time I've quoted your sig in a week. Maybe you're just feeling lethargic, man. If there is an "emotional void," it'd do you good to look inward and see if there's anything you feel like you're missing rather than asking the forum. I know you said you weren't looking for help, but it kinda sounds like maybe you made this thread for some roundabout advice.
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I'm an introvert, but I always find it hard to analyze myself and do soul searching to find the answers to my problems. It never yields any results.

I am honestly not looking for advice for my personal situation, really. I've dealt with this sort of thing a lot in the past, and I typically just wait for it to pass. I am interested however in seeing if other people also get this way and how they end up dealing with it.

Or at least to know that you weren't the only one feeling this way.

Which I suspect you're not.
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Probably not.

I also sort of made this thread because the forums are so damn slow... not enough activity.



Also, Darkside... I find it highly unlikely you'd be able to use me as a battery to bring the forum down. I can't help but always joke around and basically be a jackass on here which isn't conclusive to bringing forum happiness down. Possibly good for raising forum irritability though.
 
I seriously am goddamn starving.

But listen here you, humans are gregarious animals. They're pack animals. They're social animals. And believe you me (I know these things!) your entire personality, identity, and your very self - whether 'self' is an illusion of the modern capitalist age or not - all depend on the contributions made by others to the symbolic order of the culture you live in. Now I'm not sure I believe in the self, but I believe in the illusion of self, and I don't know about anyone else but when I isolate myself from other people for too long I begin to lose even that illusion. You've indicated that you're a solitary bloke in the past, but it's no surprise that if you are too cut off from regular face-to-face human interaction you might feel yourself to be missing something, because that kind of interaction is what defines and produces humanity. Some can get by otherwise, especially if they throw themselves into the contemplation of some great mystery, an object of study - but even the most austere sciences, those of mathematics and physics, are best practiced socially.
 
Sulkdodds said:
I seriously am goddamn starving.

But listen here you, humans are gregarious animals. They're pack animals. They're social animals. And believe you me (I know these things!) your entire personality, identity, and your very self - whether 'self' is an illusion of the modern capitalist age or not - all depend on the contributions made by others to the symbolic order of the culture you live in. Now I'm not sure I believe in the self, but I believe in the illusion of self, and I don't know about anyone else but when I isolate myself from other people for too long I begin to lose even that illusion. You've indicated that you're a solitary bloke in the past, but it's no surprise that if you are too cut off from regular face-to-face human interaction you might feel yourself to be missing something, because that kind of interaction is what defines and produces humanity. Some can get by otherwise, especially if they throw themselves into the contemplation of some great mystery, an object of study - but even the most austere sciences, those of mathematics and physics, are best practiced socially.
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But... but, I have you guys! lol.

But yeah you're right, I am a solitary guy. Not necessarily how I want things to be, but that's just how they've always been. I haven't sustained any real, tangible friendships outside of the internet since I lived in Alaska. So that's nearly a decade of time. Most of my social interactions during that time have pretty much just been with family, and online communities like this one.

But I mean... that's pretty much sustained me just fine, for the most part.

neptuneuk said:
I turned to weed.
Now I have inner peace.
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Though about it... but won't touch the stuff until it's legal. No interest in getting caught and doing time. lol
 
Raziaar said:
I'm an introvert, but I always find it hard to analyze myself and do soul searching to find the answers to my problems. It never yields any results.
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I always wondered why it is most people can't do that. Analyze themselves, I mean. I never really understood it.


I also sort of made this thread because the forums are so damn slow... not enough activity.
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Amen, bro. This forum is molasses in January. And I know y'all are lurking; I see your names at the damn bottom of the screen! I've even got the Who's Online? page open, feeling like some kinda God watching what you people are reading, so I know you're out there. You just aren't posting.

But I digress.


Also, Darkside... I find it highly unlikely you'd be able to use me as a battery to bring the forum down. I can't help but always joke around and basically be a jackass on here which isn't conclusive to bringing forum happiness down. Possibly good for raising forum irritability though.
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I...I could maybe use that.
Sulkdodds said:
You've indicated that you're a solitary bloke in the past, but it's no surprise that if you are too cut off from regular face-to-face human interaction you might feel yourself to be missing something, because that kind of interaction is what defines and produces humanity.
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Nuts to you, man. Being a hermit is the way to go.

Also, go eat. Do it now. Stop reading this. Make pancakes. Or cereal. Or have a muffin.
 
Raziaar said:
Though about it... but won't touch the stuff until it's legal. No interest in getting caught and doing time. lol
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Hah yea screw you and your medieval US drug laws.


I'm a well sly geezah! No coppa's caught meh!
/bad fake cockney accent
 
Darkside55 said:
Also, go eat. Do it now. Stop reading this. Make pancakes. Or cereal. Or have a muffin.
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I just did, while you were posting.
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anxiety as well as this feeling you're talking about is a programmed response and is only reinforced by constantly thinking about it and acting in a way which may seem like it helps you.

What i'd suggest is every time you get this feeling think of something else or do something else that does not cause you anxiety. This is pillar 1 of the linden method which i've just started and the last few days have been great.

http://www.lindenmethod.com/

it's a little expensive but like i've said, i have been anxiety free for the past few days and I just started this program. I know you are probably thinking it's a scam but take my word for it, it works. If you don't end up trying it, just remember that you have to reprogram your mind to change the way you feel in specific circumstances.

PM me if you want some .mp3's that help
 
Heh, you just described an average day for me. I'm practically a shut-in at the moment and it's eating me alive. I'm starting to suspect I'll never be able to fully re-integrate myself into society.
 
I've always been terrified of the self-help movement, but I found this earlier today which seems almost sane.

I think the crux of the problem is basically boredom.
Edit: And as Sulk says, part of this is lack of human contact

Raziaar, do you suffer from depression?
 
Bad^Hat said:
Heh, you just described an average day for me. I'm practically a shut-in at the moment and it's eating me alive. I'm starting to suspect I'll never be able to fully re-integrate myself into society.
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How long've you been like that?
 
Bad^Hat said:
Heh, you just described an average day for me. I'm practically a shut-in at the moment and it's eating me alive. I'm starting to suspect I'll never be able to fully re-integrate myself into society.
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Too bad you live in New Zealand. Otherwise we could integrate together!

Dinkleberry said:
I've always been terrified of the self-help movement, but I found this earlier today which seems almost sane.

I think at the crux of the problem is basically boredom.

Raziaar, do you suffer from depression?
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Yes, I suffer from depression. I'm fairly certain bipolar disorder to some degree. My mom had it pretty severe.
 
Darkside55 said:
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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It's only gay if balls are touching.



Tyguy said:
anxiety as well as this feeling you're talking about is a programmed response and is only reinforced by constantly thinking about it and acting in a way which may seem like it helps you.

What i'd suggest is every time you get this feeling think of something else or do something else that does not cause you anxiety. This is pillar 1 of the linden method which i've just started and the last few days have been great.

http://www.lindenmethod.com/

it's a little expensive but like i've said, i have been anxiety free for the past few days and I just started this program. I know you are probably thinking it's a scam but take my word for it, it works. If you don't end up trying it, just remember that you have to reprogram your mind to change the way you feel in specific circumstances.

PM me if you want some .mp3's that help
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I'll check it out, but I'm a huge skeptic when it comes to most things, and this sounds like something I'd be skeptical of. I will check it out though.

But really, for me I typically just let it pass. That's how I deal with it.
 
I'm fairly... only fairly, but fairly comfortable with myself and confident enough to go for long periods without much contact.

What Sulkdodds said about losing the illusion of self is spot on, though. That is the essence of loneliness. Go long enough without contact and you'll start to lose the things that tell you what you are, although that will come at different points depending on how strong or weak your self-image is.

Likewise if you sense that your isolation is because of what you are like - that is to say, if you believe that you cannot socialise or sustain a romantic relationship because of some flaw in your character - then that can be very damaging to your self-image over time.

I rarely wake up feeling empty or depressed other than when I have a mountain of problems. Sometimes, though, it will be due to some combination of the aforementioned feelings (either I'm forgetting what makes me who I am, or I think I'm ****ing things up due to who I am). I'm not a particularly social person by any stretch, but I've utterly isolated myself here in Ireland and I'm coming to realise that was a bad move. I would speculate, Raz, that just online communities and your family are not quite enough to sustain you if you're feeling empty like this. Come to Edenderry and I'll buy you a pint some time.

EDIT: same goes for Bad^Hat. You guys can drink shots off my tummy while the old guys in flatcaps look on disapprovingly. It's easy enough to reintegrate yourself into society, IMO, even though I'm not quite practising what I preach right now.
 
i dont usually wake up depressed it usually happens some time during the day after either engaging or witnessing conversations with other people.
 
Laivasse said:
What Sulkdodds said about losing the illusion of self is spot on, though. That is the essence of loneliness. Go long enough without contact and you'll start to lose the things that tell you what you are, although that will come at different points depending on how strong or weak your self-image is.
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I've never exactly been one to have the strongest self image. For nearly all my life I've had a fairly crappy one actually of myself.

Likewise if you sense that your isolation is because of what you are like - that is to say, if you believe that you cannot socialise or sustain a romantic relationship because of some flaw in your character - then that can be very damaging to your self-image over time.
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Yeah. :-/ Well that's pretty much it for the most part, at least in the past five years or so.

I would speculate, Raz, that just online communities and your family are not quite enough to sustain you if you're feeling empty like this.
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I've lasted 10 years like this though? I haven't felt empty this entire time.


Come to Edenderry and I'll buy you a pint some time.

EDIT: same goes for Bad^Hat. You guys can drink shots off my tummy while the old guys in flatcaps look on disapprovingly. It's easy enough to reintegrate yourself into society, IMO, even though I'm not quite practising what I preach right now.
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If I ever find myself in the UK... I'll do that. I probably never will though. Thanks though :D
 
Yes, I do have that feeling from time to time. Yesterday morning it took some effort to get out of bed. It just feels like there's nothing really worth waking up for... but then I remember I'm hungry and get breakfast and I have many things to get to that are quite worthwhile. I'll completely forget about it for weeks.

Usually when I feel like this it's because I didn't reach some goal or started slacking off/procrastinating.
 
Make friends, lower your standards, get laid.

Make money.
 
Yeah, I get that feeling about once a week. Usually on Saturdays.
 
Raziaar said:
Just want to know really if other people here wake up some days and feel completely empty inside.
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I broke through that phase and got to the point where I stay up for an extra half a day to put off waking up at all. I don't feel empty as such... I don't feel like I have the capacity to be 'filled up' by much anymore at all.

Boo-Hoo etc.
 
Raziaar, you need to get outside.

It sounds like you're living a none-life.

Do you work? Who supports you? Do you really spend all day on the computer?

Just get a part-time job at wallmart, you'll meet people, have a little fun, learn to support yourself and have some more money.
 
Solaris said:
Raziaar, you need to get outside.

It sounds like you're living a none-life.

Do you work? Who supports you? Do you really spend all day on the computer?

Just get a part-time job at wallmart, you'll meet people, have a little fun, learn to support yourself and have some more money.
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You need to get inside!

Those questions are difficult to respond to, yet have easy answers.
 
Listen, Raz, I'm gonna write a serious post for a change. It's been nearly five years since I joined this forum, and you're one of the guys I like most here. Judging from what you've posted over the years it seems like you are quite a lonely character. I've asked this in the past, but don't you have a job or occupation of sorts to go to? Even if it's just a small thing, you still get the opportunity meet other people. It wasn't until a little over a year ago that I really started to open up to the world and socialize on full level. I've had friends before that, sure, but I always felt as though I was lacking a bit in "social capital", compared to a lot of other people. 2008 was by far the best year of my life and that it solely because I let go of the last bit of anti-social behaviour in me.

The only advise anyone can give you in a situation like this is to make contact. If you've indeed been more or less alone during the past 10 years I understand how difficult it must seen to engage in a lasting social relationship. One advice I can give you is to engage in an organization, such as Amnesty International or The Red Cross. They are, at least in Sweden, very friendly organizations that provide great opportunity to get to get to learn other people.

I'm afraid that's the only thing I can say to help.
 
I've been feeling like that a lot recently, ever since almost dropping out of uni at Christmas and breaking-up with my ex of 3 years leading to me having a nervous breakdown where I couldn't even leave the house for almost 2 weeks because I was stricken with anxiety and panic attacks. Now I'm back at uni, staying on top of the work and pulling girls left right and center (on most good nights anyway) and generally having a great laugh with my mates.

You just need to persevere and focus on now and the future, rather than dwelling on the past. Sure, I still get upset from time to time thinking back but it does you no favours and only stops you from progressing. Think of all the good things in your life and use them to strive you forward. If you keep being proactive and keep yourself busy you won't have time to feel so disillusioned with the world and you'll soon break the habit.
 
The Monkey said:
Listen, Raz, I'm gonna write a serious post for a change. It's been nearly five years since I joined this forum, and you're one of the guys I like most here. Judging from what you've posted over the years it seems like you are quite a lonely character. I've asked this in the past, but don't you have a job or occupation of sorts to go to? Even if it's just a small thing, you still get the opportunity meet other people. It wasn't until a little over a year ago that I really started to open up to the world and socialize on full level. I've had friends before that, sure, but I always felt as though I was lacking a bit in "social capital", compared to a lot of other people. 2008 was by far the best year of my life and that it solely because I let go of the last bit of anti-social behaviour in me.

The only advise anyone can give you in a situation like this is to make contact. If you've indeed been more or less alone during the past 10 years I understand how difficult it must seen to engage in a lasting social relationship. One advice I can give you is to engage in an organization, such as Amnesty International or The Red Cross. They are, at least in Sweden, very friendly organizations that provide great opportunity to get to get to learn other people.

I'm afraid that's the only thing I can say to help.
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Ugh. You really know how to make things hit home Monkey Man.


Anyway, I really have, honestly, been living a non-life. One of the most difficult things for me to do is to sit back and determine just where the past ten years, even the past five years of my life have gone. The US elections feel like they were just yesterday. In reality, they were more than 5 months ago. Almost half a year ago. That is mind boggling to me. An event that feels like yesterday to me, at five months, gives a little believability to the fact that I have absolutely no idea where the past five years of my life went. I cannot single out any particular milestone in my life during those years, or through the past ten years.

Time passes by so quickly when you're just squandering it away.
 
It happens. I can't remember more than 5 minutes of my 4 years spent at uni, and it's certainly not because I was having a good time.

Just don't be totally down on yourself over it or you'll get trapped into a cycle of negativity. From what I've read on the forums at different points, it seems like you've been trying to educate yourself on various things that interest you...IIRC? However far you may or may not have gotten with that, it's a commendable aim and a damn sight more worthwhile than what a lot of people choose to spend their time on. So take that as a positive; you may not have used the time efficiently but there was a spirit of curiosity there that you should cultivate, and congratulate yourself for.

For the future, maybe you could try and combine your will to learn with something that gets you out connecting with people again. For example, evening classes in something you've always wanted to be a little more knowledgeable about? Or if money is a problem, or there is no specific course you can find, maybe a local library or bookstore runs a book club or something...? That's a fairly gay idea, and not something I've ever participated in personally, but it I can imagine it might be cool in practice. Or volunteer with one of the orgs Monkey suggested. Just realise that you're worthwhile and that there's no reason you can't go out and muck about in society just like anyone else.

/hypocrisy
 
raziaar said:
Ever wake up and feel that deep empty feeling?
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maybe you have stomach parasites?




in all seriousness you need to make your life worth living; you need real meaning in your life. like a direction or a career etc ..real goals will help you give you meaning
 
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