Executions - 1995 Documentry *Graphic!*

I take it there are real snuff shots in there? I'm not sure I'd be comfortable watching that.
 
Stop being pussies and watch it!

Any supporter of the death penalty should watch this. If they still support it afterwards they're not right in the head.
 
This objective documentary on the death penalty and state sponsored killing looks at the social, political and moral impact of these methods of death.
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A perfect example of a wrongful understanding of objectivity that is so common these days. Nearly everything in the process of making a documentary is a subjective decision, whether it's what footage to show, who to interview, manuscript for the narrator, and even the decision to make the documentary in the first place.
 
Well that's depressing... I don't know if I'll be watching the rest...
 
I was watching it and eating a snack at the same time. Also this was very depressing, I need Sponge Bob or something with rainbows in it now
 
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The Monkey said:
A perfect example of a wrongful understanding of objectivity that is so common these days. Nearly everything in the process of making a documentary is a subjective decision, whether it's what footage to show, who to interview, manuscript for the narrator, and even the decision to make the documentary in the first place.
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That quote doesn't say they were trying to be objective. Also nothing can be objective if all if you go by your criteria.
 
The part that really pissed me off was the stoning of women. People are messed up honestly, not much else to say. It's really disturbing what people do to their own race.

And before some idiot chimes in saying "LLOL UR ST00PID NATURE IS WORZE CUZ THEY KILL ALL THE TYME"...no animals do not kill for the fun of it, they do not kill because of emotional reasons, they do not kill because of political reasons..they kill for food to ensure their own survival.

Being killed based on your politcal, physical or religious standings is just disturbing, not to mention many serial killers who kill for the fun of it on top of all that.

Humans are a double edged sword. We're very smart but we're also very stupid. We need to control our testosterone levels seriously. If we do indeed survive natural disasters then the next big hurdle to overcome is our own self destruction, which sadly seems to be coming closer and closer.
 
AKIRA said:
animals do not kill for the fun of it, they do not kill because of emotional reasons,
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Hahahah. Akira has not owned a goddamn cat.

AKIRA said:
And before some idiot chimes in saying "LLOL UR ST00PID NATURE IS WORZE CUZ THEY KILL ALL THE TYME"...no animals do not kill for the fun of it, they do not kill because of emotional reasons, they do not kill because of political reasons..they kill for food to ensure their own survival.
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Well, rest assured no one is making that argument here, but your argument against your made up... argument, isn't very good either.
Your argument for your made up argument should be that Animals cannot comprehend moral choices on the same level that Humans can.

Look at this, arguing against an argument for someone else's non existent argument. ****ing Half-Life2.net.
 
ZT said:
Hahahah. Akira has not owned a goddamn cat.



Well, rest assured no one is making that argument here, but your argument against your made up... argument, isn't very good either.
Your argument for your made up argument should be that Animals cannot comprehend moral choices on the same level that Humans can.

Look at this, arguing against an argument for someone else's non existent argument. ****ing Half-Life2.net.
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I am not arguing mysef, I said before anyone chimes in..but either way, I think my reasons are valid. You're right, animals can't comprehend moral choices, and that is why they don't kill for their own emotional satisfaction, they kill for defense or food. They don't kill out of spite or anger or revenge or any of the other reasons I mentioned earlier.

EDIT: Sometimes animals kill for the sake of breeding rights, but I'd put that under "for their own survival".
 
Remus said:
Stop being pussies and watch it!

Any supporter of the death penalty should watch this. If they still support it afterwards they're not right in the head.
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Not really true. There are some people who I think need to die, but that doesn't mean I'd be able to stomach watching a human body mutilated by the execution(if it's a violent death).
 
I like the big smiley face in the title.

[Has made a valid contribution]
 
AKIRA said:
yes, you believe a freaking brain-dead journalist who knows nothing about animals. No matter how much you train a wild animal, they're still wild. They can see anything as a threat and can attack without warning.
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They also attack when they are angry or jealous... why is that so hard for you to swallow?

You seem to follow in some fuzzy fantasy that animals don't kill out of arbitrary emotions just like we do. The difference is that most humans have a greater understanding as to why killing someone is wrong, therefor we don't hold animals to the same moral standards.
To say that animals don't kill out of emotions, anger, spite, for fun is to.... belittle nature.
Not to mention that fear is an emotion, and animals kill out of fear all the goddamn time.

And yes, animals kill for fun.
Have you ever watched a cat smack the shit out of a crying baby bird until it dies?
 
If you've ever owned more than one domesticated dog at a time, you'd clearly see they can get jealous.

But it could be pack-climbing behaviours that I simply mistake for humanised behaviour.

EDIT: Also, should try and keep this on-topic. D:
 
He started it with his imaginary argument, what was I supposed to do man?
 
cats kill for fun cuz they already have a constant supply of food so they dont need to hunt but do it for the fun of it
 
Remus said:
Stop being pussies and watch it!

Any supporter of the death penalty should watch this. If they still support it afterwards they're not right in the head.
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I guess I'm not right in the head.

Since most of the executions shown here are by guillotine or some other brutal method of killing, I don't think it really applies to the death penalty found in the United States.
 
Krynn72 said:
That quote doesn't say they were trying to be objective. Also nothing can be objective if all if you go by your criteria.
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That's my point. Pretty much nothing outside of maths can be objective. And why do you say that they weren't claiming to be objective?

"This objective documentary..."

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The Monkey said:
That's my point. Pretty much nothing outside of maths can be objective. And why do you say that they weren't claiming to be objective?

"This objective documentary..."

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Then make a documentary with maths. Jeez, lazy people these days...
 
Cat's kill because of natural instinct.

If you want to see humanised behaviour in an animal, look at Orcas.
 
The Monkey said:
Pretty much nothing outside of maths can be objective.
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But only spontaneous, randomly manifested math! Because otherwise the very act of a person doing the math renders it subjective!
 
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