F.E.A.R. vs. HL2

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DarkClawz

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Anyone out there play FEAR yet?
I loved HL2 and want more, i was wondering how FEAR compairs to HL2 as far as fun and feel. I want another FPS that will suck me in like HL did. Please let me know what u think.
 
One: Why are you posting this on a HL2 forum? Posting stuff like this is a good way to get flamed.

Two: comparing F.E.A.R. and HL is like trying to compare a orange and a carrot. They are absolutely differant. One is a creepy horror based game, the other is a sci-fi post apoc game. One is focused on action-movie style crazyness, the other offers a more realistic combat.

Three: All-in-all its based on your own opinion. Don't let other people decide it for you!
 
I played fear weeks ago.
 
Download the F.E.A.R demo and see for yourself :p
I find both games enjoyable :)
 
just wanted to know what ppl that played HL2 and FEAR thought about FEAR

Thank you Ren.182 for your post!

everyone else, keep up the flameing...i enjoy a good flameing
 
DarkClawz said:
Anyone out there play FEAR yet?
I loved HL2 and want more, i was wondering how FEAR compairs to HL2 as far as fun and feel. I want another FPS that will suck me in like HL did. Please let me know what u think.
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fear vs hl2 is a dumb topic.

I have the game.
Perfect? No.
Scary? Far too much!
Good? I think so.

The best part is the action. The scary is too scary for me :(. Graphics are far from perfect, but they have some features that kick ass (smoke sparks debris decals).

.bog.
 
i will be getting Fear.
just wondering...who got the Director's Cut edition? its about 20 bucks more.
 
I found the graphics on FEAR to be amazing imo, i just whacked em on highest and was blown away, and it scares the living shit out of me, don't think ive ever been soo scared of a game other then Resi Evil series. but this is a lot more tense, i have to take breaks from playing it :(
 
HL2 vs shoe laces.

But seriously, personally, I love both games to death. The singleplayer on both were extrodinary in their own ways. I bought both of them, and they were well worth my money <3
 
Aye, well worth the money, i really dislike it when people download games though -.-

A couple of mates Downloaded FEAR and i basically told em where to f*** off too for a few days while i get over my anger for them doing such a crappy thing !!!
 
I've played both the demo and the entire version from a mate, and i have to say i love the look of the game, looks fantastic, rapes my computer and his to pieces, loving that. The slow-mo is great, so is the AI, and the scary bits (which shook me up :( ) and the little things, like when the phone falls off the hook and you can here it saying 'please hang up the reciever and try again'. Nice touch.

But overall i do prefer HL2, which is why i post here (well kinda) because its just got everything, the physics, the maps, the puzzles, the character and story involvement.

Of course FEAR has those things too, they just don't appeal to me as much, who knows why. But both games are brilliant in their own right, comparing them and saying which is best feels dirty.
 
F.E.A.R. wins against Half-Life 2 in only one aspect - graphics.
 
I'm currently playing through fear, and imo HL2 is far better.

HL2: MUCH greater interactivity with the environment. with the grav gun and jus t being able to pick up anything and toss and break it is good. plus there's more than just enemies to interact with in hl2, verses nothing but troops in the whole place. FEAR has good physics like hl2, especially when dealing with enemies, but while there are lots of objects lying around in FEAR, you can't do a single damn thing with ANYTHING. you might be able to bump into something or shoot it around, but thats about it. and the phone messages around the game are a poor attempt to mimic the DOOM3 PDA story advancement or even humor like the classic NOLF2 documents in file cabinets (awesome game if you haven't played them, the NOLFs).

for FEAR, i do like the physical presence of your character. you can see your legs and shoulders at times like crouching, and certain positions limit your movment, and you actually have to (gasp) grab ladders. i like this feature, and i think it is sorely lacking in HL2. melee strikes on all weapons and being able to do jump kicks and stuff is also a + for FEAR.

HL2 also has more different experiences like vehicles and different environments. FEAR is nothing but offices and warehouses.

HL2 weapons are much more polished. I just like them better a bit. though I kind of like the semi-ironsight thing on FEAR. hl2 could stand to have that. I don't really dig the FEAR shotty gibbing enemies at close range, thats just too much of a stretch for me, a shotty does not do that. Its one thing to have enemies go flying or knocked around by shotties and high power weapons (also unrealistic) which all games do, but exploding into chunks from some buckshot... NOTHING beats playing with enemies with the blue grav gun in hl2. maybe its just the gun buff in me, but the hl2 .357 is one of the absolutely nices looking real world weapon models made by a game dev team and not a gun expert.

FEAR has better sound effects and stuff like wall destruction. the really sharp sounds and debris flying everywhere makes battles so nuts and surreal in FEAR, but i find myself having to use the bullet time SO much that it kind of takes away from the fights.

I have to use the bullet time so much because they enemies are so lightning quick and accurate with their weapons that its borderline cheating cuz even when you shoot them first, i've seen their weapons discharge in compelety different directions than at me and I am still hit by it. I've also encountered a bug a few times where the FEAR soldiers can suddenly see me, and shoot me directly through the entire map. i'm talkign through walls, crates, through the ground, buildings, everything. i had to run for my life and barely get past them to a point where they coudlnt' "hack" anymore.

enemy AI. FEAR enemies are more intelligent in my opinion, that or they are just way more aggressive and retreating and charging and divign through windows etc... especially running from my nades. so FEAR wins the AI battle.

FEAR has some skin tingling moments, but they taper off and are far more rare later in the game. it does become just the standard shooter between these moments, which isn't bad really, its still a great shooter. hl2 has its creepy moments, fast zombies rushing and shrieking at me still gets to me, i hate the damn fast and taurantula headcrabs.

Overall: while FEAR is a great game, it doesn't match up with HL2 in a number of categories. HL2 hands down winner.
 
there is no way on God's green Earth that you could even attempt to classify these games together, just not humanly possible :borg:
 
If you could only play one of these games for a month straight what would it be? Including SP and MP.

HL2 Alllllll the way
 
HL2 is better IMO, but they are very different games. One thing that pissed me off in FEAR was that headshots become less effective once enemies are on guard, WTF?
 
ríomhaire said:
HL2 is better IMO, but they are very different games. One thing that pissed me off in FEAR was that headshots become less effective once enemies are on guard, WTF?
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POINT BLANK SHOTTY \0/
 
ríomhaire said:
HL2 is better IMO, but they are very different games. One thing that pissed me off in FEAR was that headshots become less effective once enemies are on guard, WTF?
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yeah, lol. i had to debate which to take out by suprise cuz that easy drop won't happen a second time.
 
finally got my "Director's Cut" DVD edition and will be installing in a bit :D
i think this games comparasion is a little nutty.
having played the demo of Fear and completed HL2, both games are great in their own unique way.
 
Dr. Freeman said:
finally got my "Director's Cut" DVD edition and will be installing in a bit :D
i think this games comparasion is a little nutty.
having played the demo of Fear and completed HL2, both games are great in their own unique way.
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Install it NOW. Both are good games and worth the money. There are a couple places in FEAR that will creep you out but I wont ruin them.

Just wait until you get to the end. It is damn good.
 
POINT BLANK SHOTTY \0/
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Aye, nothing better then running flat out at a soldier on FEAR with the shotty and watching hsi head fly off or his body explode :)
 
I liked FEAR, but not as much as HL2. Some of my thoughts.

FEAR graphics are great. Some textures are amazing, the special effects are probably the best ever seen, and dynamic lights and shadows just make it all better. Particle effects are beyond awesome. All sorts of dust and stuff filling the air during firefights is great, and firefights do look outstanding visually, especially if grenades or slow-mo are used.

FEAR is a system resource hog. Even if you can run HL2 on Medium, FEAR might need Low graphics and struggle in a few places. You really want at least a 2.6 GHz CPU, 1 GB RAM and a GeForce 5700 if you're to have good performance, but in fact, you video card should be the GF 6600 or better. It's a very computer-intensive game.

The AI is, I would say, the strongest point of FEAR. HL2 Combine AI sometimes has strokes of brilliance, the FEAR AI is like that most of the time - retreating, flanking, taking cover, working in squads, hiding to ambush you, etc. It really does not use scripting, and there are awesome moments with it. The particle and special effects plus the AI make firefights in FEAR extremely enjoyable.

Enemy and level variety. In FEAR, you'll not encounter a lot of different enemy types. In fact, you'll be fighting against clone soldiers most of the time, and they are nearly identical, except that some are tougher and have a slight visual difference, such as different helmets. There's also the armored soldier that pops up here and there, and these two types will account for 95% of your fights. There are some 3 other enemy types, but those appear in 2-3 places each anyway.

Level variety in FEAR isn't as great as HL2. If HL2 has the strikingly different places like Nova Prospekt, the Coast, Ravenholm and City 17, FEAR is less diverse. It barely has any outdoor action, and the few outdoor environments there are are mostly small. You'll instead spend most of your time in residental blocks, offices or research labs. This is not to say that the level design is bad, but if you're looking for great diversity, you'll not have it.

The story. Without spoiling anything, well, the story itself isn't too bad, but I have to admit I didn't like how it was told. A minor thing is that while you can use laptops to access data, you in fact send the data elsewhere and then you're told, by radio, what it was. I much preferred to read it myself in Doom3. Also, I found that I could guess most of the plot points correctly before they were actually revealed, but this may vary with you. Anyhow, I have no objections about the story itself - it's just the presentation of it that I found a bit lacking.

Physics aren't implemented as well as HL2, or I'm just spoiled by it. You can't really affect most objects, like the shelves or cardboard boxes in offices. You can shoot them and the occasional object will move, but there's no kicking or throwing them around freely, not environment manipulation freedom like HL2.

Scariness. This one is completely subjective. It all depends on what specific people find scary - hellish visions, sights of gore, strange sounds, enemy ambushes, zombies on fire, etc. It's simple enough to see - some were very scared by Doom3, others by Ravenholm in HL2, others by FEAR. How FEAR tries to create fear is by messing with your head and creating a sense of dread. Whether you find the things in the game scary depends on you, though.

All in all, I think FEAR is definitely worth to be played through at least once. You should download the demo. First, it will give you a good sense of how the full game might run on your machine, second, you'll get a feel for how the game plays. The demo is composed of different parts of places actually found in the game, including firefights and the scary moments. If you enjoy the demo, you'll enjoy the full game.
 
Half-Life 2's AI structure is pretty similar to F.E.A.R.'s. I have no doubt that if they (Valve) would spend more time on it (the AI), and hire Angry Lawyer, HL2's AI would outrun F.E.A.R.'s AI.

And no, I'm not brown-nosing. :p
 
This reminds me of the time when i said the Half-Life 2 was better than Halo 2 in a halo forums. Actually, you have it easy, nobodys making fun of you. But i wish i could play FEAR, but my computer sucks donkey nuts. I couldnt run the demo.
 
HL2 AI has a big weakness that could be easily remedied. Combine work far better when they're assigned to a squad. The problem is, in many places in the game, they haven't been all put on the same squad. If they were, that would make them more effective.

Another respect where FEAR AI beats HL2 AI is retreating. The Combine AI knows how to retreat, but they will almost always then go back and fight. That is, if you know the Combine retreated behind a corner, you can stay there, your gun pointed at the corner, and in 95% of situations, the Combine will come out soon. In FEAR, the soldiers would sometimes run away somewhere, hide, and absolutely stay there.

That said, HL2 AI is second-best I've seen in a FPS game. And the original HL wasn't so good - there were a couple of tricks that the marines would fall for every time.
 
Hey, hey, hey! Let's not forget HL1 was made in 1998. Or maybe you know an FPS made with better AI somewhere in the nineties?
 
I wasn't joking. HL2 is a fun game and all, but an equivalent dollar value's worth of sandwiches could keep you alive for over two weeks in cases of famine.
 
hi,

Fear looks good and so does hl2 both are linear, both have great story lines. Both are replayable.

This post isn't about which is better but i want to know how good multiplayer is in both games.
(don't have fear, hl2 is running on my on internet-connected p.c)

matt
 
iMMuNiTy said:
Hey, hey, hey! Let's not forget HL1 was made in 1998. Or maybe you know an FPS made with better AI somewhere in the nineties?
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Well, I was referring to the fact that some people quote the HL1 AI as being superior to the HL2 AI.
 
FEAR is a great game, buy it. It's the best game I played since HL2.
 
Yeah i agree, as for FEARS multiplayer, it is good if you enjoy an all out frag fest tbh, its fast, nowhere near as fast as quake or anything similar, but still pretty fast with some fun gamemodes.
 
We will see what game is still being spoken about in a years time.
 
Are F.E.A.R and Half Life-2 the games to really compare to each other?

I find they're highly different from each other
 
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