Female legislators propose slew of anti-viagra legislation

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The bill introduced by Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner on March 2 targets men’s access to Viagra and other erectile dysfunction drugs known as PDE-5 inhibitors.

Her measure would require that men undergo a psychological assessment before being prescribed the medication and a cardiac stress test every 90 days while on the drug as well as the patient signing a form that he understands the side effects.

In a news release on her website, Turner said: “The men in our lives, including members of the General Assembly, generously devote time to fundamental female reproductive issues. The least we can do is return the favor. … By implementing more intensive screenings before prescribing the medication and requiring outpatient educational services, we can do more to prevent the potential side effects linked to PDE-5 inhibitors.”
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In Illinois, state Rep. Kelly Cassidy sponsored an amendment to a bill forcing women to get ultrasounds before an abortion that would force men who want Viagra to watch a graphic video of the drug’s potential side effects.
In Virginia, state Sen. Janet Howell pushed an amendment to the state’s ultrasound bill that required all men seeking Viagra to get a rectal examination.
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Every time I feel bad about my country, all I have to do is look at America.
 
I hope this means less Viagra and Cialis commercials.
 
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How common/severe are the side effects of Viagra? I could see this being a valid measure if it's riskier than is commonly known. We all know there are doctors that like to prescribe things because they get kickbacks.
 
Maestro said:
How common/severe are the side effects of Viagra? I could see this being a valid measure if it's riskier than is commonly known. We all know there are doctors that like to prescribe things because they get kickbacks.
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Here's a website that shows the side effects of it. Out of nearly four thousand patients, less than two percent had an adverse effect from the drug, and the most common one was a headache. These results can be seen from any other pharmaceutical. Unless this woman, this legislator, wants to limit access to every other prescriptive medicine on the planet, she better stop this nonsense.
 
Shem said:
Unless this woman, this legislator, wants to limit access to every other prescriptive medicine on the planet, she better stop this nonsense.
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You realize this is just joke legislation to highlight assinine anti-abortion laws dreamed up by men, right?
 
Yeah, I think her whole point is centered around the fact that this kind of legislation is absurd.
 
You know what would be hilarious? If this gets passed into law anyway.
 
That's shit. That's just completely ****ing sick. I mean, the whole idea that some women don't have to listen to that crap because their abortions are for, like, better reasons or something......that's just completely....****ed. It's like they're openly coming out and saying "yeah we're not doing this for your health or benefit, it's purely just to punish you for not complying to our morality". It's awful.

Seeing this crap just makes me completely doubt that abortion will ever be legal here in Ireland, since our country is so heavily influenced by the States. It makes me really sad.
 
The idea that women who get abortions are selfish and immoral is ingrained very hard in these people's minds. Even women who get abortions themselves. Read this if you want to be flabergasted:
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

They simply don't see women who go for abortions on the same level as humanity. They are no good reasons if someone else is doing it. It's absolutely disgusting.
 
The best way to stop idiotic legislation is to make further mockery of the legal system. AMIRITEGUYS?! This immature, silly response to a serious issue is why the public ends up being apathetic in politics.
 
To be fair, it seems like they've tried to address these issues in a calm, reasonable, logical fashion, without much success.

I'm not saying this is any kind of way to get things done, it's just that I can understand why someone living in the US who opposes this level of invasion into the private lives of women might be feeling rather at their wits' end these days.
 
KiplingsCat said:
To be fair, it seems like they've tried to address these issues in a calm, reasonable, logical fashion, without much success.
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They were getting a lot farther than this is going to get them. This will do more harm than good.
 
Like I said, I don't know whether or not this is well-advised (in fact, I would agree with you; it probably isn't)...I can just understand why some people feel like serious politics and debate are getting them nowhere. That may or may not be true, it's just an understandable sentiment.

Recourse to humour seems like a last-resort response to me. And some of the stuff your GOP have been saying would put me in a last-resort frame of mind. It's bullshit, some of the stuff they're saying. All this stuff about vaginal ultrasounds and that article BadHat linked to. It almost deserves a non-serious response, because I tremble for the future if this stuff starts getting taken seriously too often.

But I also take your point that perhaps the safest thing for the non-mental politicians to do would have been to continue with their more serious, less attention-grabbing tactics.
 
sixteenth said:
What is this? ****ing highschool?
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At this point, comparisons to highschool are a compliment. For years, it's been easier for me to interpret Congress' actions as those of children on a unsupervised recess playground than those of rational, considerate adults.
 
Tagaziel said:
http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

I recommend this fantastic book to gain insight into a conservative Christian right-winger mind. Or any right winger in general.
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Interesting. One should note though (and the book linked explicitly states) that this includes any "zealot" or "alarmist" type. I used to be in an environmental student group which obviously had its fair share of liberal arts hippie types. Fun people, but a lot of them were pretty mindless also, getting basic scientific facts wrong. There was a Yale study that found that the people the people most alarmed by climate change thought that the ozone hole was somehow related to climate change. (It's not).
 
I did find that interesting, he spends most of his time addressing right-wing authoritarians in the US, but the same type of people with opposite views were found in Russia and he also mentions left-wing authoritarians like you describe dfc05. It's a fascinating view into the mind of people who make up these groups.
 
When I commented on how dumb santorum and views about abortion are at work I was literally attacked by my co-workers.
"Well at least he has Morals"
"It's Murder and he's defending human life"

I've never been surrounded by so many Idiots.**** Retail.
 
KiplingsCat said:
Like I said, I don't know whether or not this is well-advised (in fact, I would agree with you; it probably isn't)...I can just understand why some people feel like serious politics and debate are getting them nowhere. That may or may not be true, it's just an understandable sentiment.

Recourse to humour seems like a last-resort response to me. And some of the stuff your GOP have been saying would put me in a last-resort frame of mind. It's bullshit, some of the stuff they're saying. All this stuff about vaginal ultrasounds and that article BadHat linked to. It almost deserves a non-serious response, because I tremble for the future if this stuff starts getting taken seriously too often.

But I also take your point that perhaps the safest thing for the non-mental politicians to do would have been to continue with their more serious, less attention-grabbing tactics.
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I'm not in total disagreement but sometimes you have to show them just how stupid they are by mocking their ideas. for far too long people with common sense have allowed this sort sort of idiotic hate filled rhetoric to go unchallenged because it's often associated with religious dogma. enough's enough. it's time to chew bubble gum and kick ass. if we let the zealots spew their zealotry unhindred the stupids will feel galvanized and push harder for their ideas to gain respectability. "you cant bash my beliefs because they're my personal beliefs" is a crock of shit. if it's stupid or illogical it should be pointed out not ignored
 
CptStern said:
enough's enough.
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Yeah, this. I guess I'm in favour of anything that gets this message across effectively. This bullshit is going too far.

(Personally, I don't know how I would go about getting that message across if I was a US politician, beyond throwing a tantrum and flinging abuse/bits of my lunch/sharp objects at the GOP, though. I guess that's why I'll never be a diplomat.)
 
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