Fermi delayed (March)

[Asus]

Looks like ATI prices won't be dropping just yet.

 

[unozero]

ugh gay.


depending on what prices are like i would even go with a Radeon.

 

[Sedako]

I'm still waiting for the Larrabee. It'll be nice to have some 3-way competition in the GPU market.

 

[Asus]

Intel canceled first version of larabee.
Wouldn't have competed with todays GPUs anyway. Anand's comments that "it's not until you get in the 2013 - 2015 range that Larrabee even comes into play."

 

[VirusType2]

Isn't Intel partnered with, or owner of Nvidia now? Why would they compete with themselves? Or... what?

 

[Stigmata]

AMD owns ATI but I think Intel just partners heavily with Nvidia on motherboards and such. Still, it's strange that they would do this.

 

[Asus]

They are not owned by or partnered with each other. In fact Nvidia has big issues with Intel and doesn't like them.

When AMD bought ATI they no longer made chipsets for Intel systems. Either the chipset license was pulled or was not renewed by Intel.
Nvidia was denied a license for the new Intel bus for chipsets.

FTC is on Intel's back not just for CPUs but also GPUs. (scroll to half way down)

 

[Stigmata]

Oh wow. I had no idea Intel had been such a dick.

 

[Polaris]

I'm more of an ATi guy but I'll buy this just because of it's awesome name!

 

[Sedako]

Intel canceled first version of larabee.
Wouldn't have competed with todays GPUs anyway. Anand's comments that "it's not until you get in the 2013 - 2015 range that Larrabee even comes into play."

I hope this doesn't mean that Project Offset is going to put on hold in order to coincide with it's launch. Supposedly it was going to be the game that would show off the technology.

 

[Asus]

I hope this doesn't mean that Project Offset is going to put on hold in order to coincide with it's launch. Supposedly it was going to be the game that would show off the technology.

Well, it is owned by Intel and "...the first version of Larrabee will exclusively be for developers interested in playing around with the chip."

 

[Asus]

This is more of a confirmation article about the report of Nvidia delaying Fermi til march. But check out this comment by DigiTimes.

DigiTimes claims TSMC still doesn't have enough 40-nm capacity to "supply the two GPU giants fully."

Wonder what that will mean. It is probably related to the fact that TSMC is not putting out as many working chips on 40nm (yield issues) compared to other sizes in the past. ATI has their performance cards out now. Within the month or so they will have their low end cards selling (5400,5500,5600). Does that mean there will not be a ton of production capacity left for Nvidia to buy up for their chips? Granted Nvidia has been just doing the high end as new cards like the GTX series for the last year or more (high end sells in low volumes) while the mid and low end have been old tech with new names like 8800 and 9800.

 

[Krynn72]

They edited the original article after Nvidia contacted them. Apparently its not delayed, but rather never had a release date set beyond Q1 2010.

“We are excited about the attention surrounding GF100 as it forms the foundation for the fastest and most feature rich graphics cards ever designed," said Nvidia's Bryan Del Rizzo. "Great things come to those that wait, and the wait will be over in Q1 as we have said previously. The release date has not changed since our initial comments last November."

So while the release will still probably be in march, there hasn't been any problems or delays. Its still all according to the plan (except the november delay haha)

 

[Asus]

What about this though?

Nvidia does intend to demonstrate the product at the Consumer Electronics Show later this week, DigiTimes says. But while the company was originally expected to stage a launch there, too, that schedule has reportedly slipped.

CES is Jan 7-10.
If so then that means it is a delay but this 2nd delay fits within a single quarter. For PR it's good to be vague (Q1) when your products have been slipping. Hope it doesn't slip again...

 

[barbarbarbarbar]

The Fermi paradox

 

[Krynn72]

What about this though?

CES is Jan 7-10.
If so then that means it is a delay but this 2nd delay fits within a single quarter. For PR it's good to be vague (Q1) when your products have been slipping. Hope it doesn't slip again...

Oh, idunno. I was just going by what their comment was, which seemed to imply that they never said it was intended to be released during CES.

EDIT: Ahh, your quote says "Nvidia was expected to stage a launch." Sounds like people just made assumptions on the release date.

 

[Asus]

This is fun. lol
I don't think I would be looking this stuff up other wise.
This seems to shed some light on where these dates are coming from based on tape-outs and if they failed or not.
"A tape-out is the finalization of a PCB/IC design; it is at this point that the schematics for the product are sent for manufacture."
1st missed date:

After the project slipped its original September/October launch, many believed that G300 would launch in the November/December time frame. That date was based on a July tape-out of the company’s A1 (first) G300 revision.

2nd date coming up that will probably be missed (where the CES availability expectations are coming from):

...some reports say that A2 silicon has only just taped out. In a best case scenario, NVIDIA will have A2 back by the first week of December. If A2 is any good, then the very first boards will just barely make the CES window AIBs are talking about. That means retail availability is narrowing in on February...

3rd date that is the next projection:

...but it could be as late as March if the company must spin the A3 rev.

This is where the expectations are coming from for a March date. And that article was written in Nov. So now catching back up with current rumor articles they now think A2 has failed and suspecting they are taking a crack at A3.

Guess we will have to see how many tries it takes.