Fertilized Eggs are child pornography!

[Raziaar]

At least they would be, if this is passed. To be honest I don't know the actual full implications of this, but they can't be very good.

http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/blog2/258

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-gives-fertilized-eggs-human-status/


Or has this already been posted before? It's kind of old, but I never heard it before.

You see this image? That’s a fertilized human egg. The North Dakota House of Representatives passed a bill on Feb 19th 2009 which states that this picture is considered child pornography. The vote now goes to the North Dakota Senate for a vote. If passed, it means that if you post pictures of your ultrasound on Facebook, you run the risk of having to sign up for the sex offender registry.

This bill that passed by 51-41 this afternoon declared that a fertilized egg has all the rights of any person. Sponsored by Rep. Dan Ruby, R, this effectively outlaws abortion in North Dakota.

Outlawing abortions obviously this leads to unregulated abortions, since abortions take place regardless of legality. However, having back-ally abortions is the least of womens’ concern. If the North Dakota Senate passes it as well, North Dakota would be able to prosecute women who have miscarriages as being criminally negligent.

While Ruby has has sponsored other anti-abortion bills, it is unclear his motivation for this. While North Dekota is running record budget problems, it seems odd that he’d willingly force so many unwed teenagers into motherhood, where the state will be legally obligated to support them. Additionally, he certainly cannot be using any biblical justification, because the Bible is very clear to state that until a child is alive one month out of the mother it has no value at all. (Exodus 21:22-23, Leviticus 27:6, Numbers 3:15-16.) What’s more, God has abroved of abortion and has been known to induce an abortion (Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28).

The whole situation is a bit absurd. North Dakota has opened up a can of worms they really didn’t think through.

Update: Someone put up a good list of side effects of this law Here. Where our list is a bit sophomoric, this link has actual legal implications

http://paperlined.org/academics/politics/embryonic_personhood.html

 

[Krynn72]

God damn it. I'm getting so sick of this stupid republican, religious bullshit that makes no sense. I am really starting to hate this country and more specifically, the people governing it.

 

[Viperidae]

inb4 Vegeta

How hard is it to grasp that life at that level is meaningless?

 

[DEATHMASTER]

That's what the pedophiles want you to think.

 

[jet_porkins]

Let North Dakotans vote like North Dakotans do. You can't expect a conservative state to legislate otherwise. I'm sure the conservative majority of North Dakota citizens aren't having a fit over this.

 

[Raziaar]

Well, if slavery were ever voted in I would be outraged as well. Just because people vote for shit like this doesn't make it right.

 

[VirusType2]

Good point Raz.

Seriously, this is an embarrassment.

 

[Krynn72]

Let North Dakotans vote like North Dakotans do. You can't expect a conservative state to legislate otherwise. I'm sure the conservative majority of North Dakota citizens aren't having a fit over this.

Just because one place votes it in doesnt mean everyone else should stfu and let it be. By that logic you should be alright with people having sex with 12 year olds in Tonga just because the official age of consent is 12.

 

[Raziaar]

If zygotes and beyond are ruled as having human rights... that means we classify them as humans.

Does that mean we have to update human birth rates/death rates to include this?

It would show that more humans die every year than are born every year. Wouldn't that make us an endangered species?

Man... we could take this new information and go ape shit by proposing all sorts of new regulations and restrictions on industries to protect the species!

:|

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

It would be kind of cool if humans were listed as endangered.

inb4 Vegeta

Nobody gets in before Vegeta. That's the way he likes it.

 

[PvtRyan]

Nobody gets in before Vegeta. That's the way he likes it.

ZING!

 

[Ennui]

I'm sure all 8 people in North Dakota are going to be very upset if this passes.

 

[Raziaar]

Good thing my dad owns property in the Black Hills, South Dakota rather than in North Dakota.

My embryo experimentation dreams can go on in my soon to be built mad scientist lab.

 

[Qonfused]

Nobody gets in before Vegeta. That's the way he likes it.

A+

char

 

[Vegeta897]

I did laugh a lot.

 

[Sheepo]

Who's standing up for those of us with an embryo fetish?

 

[VirusType2]

experimentation dreams can go on in my soon to be built mad scientist lab.

LOL

Being a mad scientist would be awesome.

:sigh:

 

[Eejit]

So does a miscarriage count as manslaughter or murder?
Depends on the cause?

 

[Dodo]

WTF i cant post pictures : | ... just wanted to post some nice -0.75 year old child porn..

-dodo

 

[Raziaar]

Can we get some umbilical on fetus bondage action in here?

 

[VirusType2]

So does a miscarriage count as manslaughter or murder?

Either way, isn't this incredibly unbelievable? I simply cannot fathom the logic where this is a good idea.

 

[The Monkey]

Only in North Dakota.

 

[Raziaar]

Okay... it appears that the latest talking point for conservatives and anti-abortionists is that pro-choice is equivalent to abortion.

This is literally the talking point spreading right now... things like, "Well, I don't practice slavery, but I certainly support the right to choose."

These people make me angry.

 

[Minister]

Aaaah, the American dream!