Former Iran Hostages say new Iranian President was a Captor

[RakuraiTenjin]

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3541059

:flame:

 

[Icarusintel]

somehow i'm not surprised

 

[CptStern]

meh you shouldnt have overthrown the democratically elected government back in 1953 and installed a brutal dictator which eventually paved the way for a fundamentalist government ..once again your meddling will come back to bite you in the ass ...neways dont start pointing fingers as to what other world leaders are doing ...cuz ..ahem ...you do the same thing ...google Iran and Savak

 

[Feath]

Because the US made mistakes 50 years ago, they aren't allowed to take an interest in world affairs anymore?

 

[CptStern]

no, not a mistake they engineered the coup, put in a murderous dictator which led to the the rise of fundamentalism ..the CIA trained SAVAK, a death squad that killed thousands of civilians ..had they left them alone they may still have had a democratically elected government ...you cant live in the present without reflecting on the past

and how is that "taking an interest in world affairs" if anything seems to me like it's building a case for invasion

 

[Feath]

Mistake as in "bad choice" not mistake as in "accident".

 

[CptStern]

no, the wrong choice was made at the very beginning


edit: ok you changed your response ..yes I agree it was a bad choice but their involvement from the very beginning was about bad choices

 

[Feath]

mis·take
n.

1. An error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.

 

[CptStern]

mis·take
n.

1. An error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.

ya but that definition doesnt fit here ...the US at the time knew what it was doing ...sure they probably didnt foresee the eventual outcome ..but I dont believe it was a mistake ...a mistake implies an unintended outcome ...while they were in Iran every outcome was intended ..they just didnt see a rise in fundamentalism as a result of the murderous dictatorship they put into power

the hostage situation in the 80's was a direct result of the fundamnetalists trying to throw out the americans


here read this


"In March 2000, then secretary of state Madeleine Albright stated her regret that Mossadegh was ousted: "The Eisenhower administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons. But the coup was clearly a setback for Iran's political development and it is easy to see now why many Iranians continue to resent this intervention by America."

 

[Feath]

No wonder the politics forum can't have a reasonable debate if people just pick over the meanings of words all the frigging time.

 

[CptStern]

now you're being unreasonable ..I'm not picking on anything, I'm clarifying for factual accuracy

 

[Sulkdodds]

On the one hand, (let's say, uh, the right (and no I don't mean that politically)) they did it entirely purposefully.

On the other hand, it's 50 years on and it's fair enough if they've changed their minds, different presidencies and all.

On the right hand again, they've been overthrowing governments and installing dictators all through the eighties...

That hand outweighs the other, really.

 

[No Limit]

meh you shouldnt have overthrown the democratically elected government back in 1953 and installed a brutal dictator which eventually paved the way for a fundamentalist government ..once again your meddling will come back to bite you in the ass ...neways dont start pointing fingers as to what other world leaders are doing ...cuz ..ahem ...you do the same thing ...google Iran and Savak

We'll just have to "fix it" again by destroying the entire country and starting over. Sure, it might not have worked very well in Iraq but **** that; Bush never makes mistakes.

 

[Gray Fox]

He wasn't one of the captors, the people whe were one of the captors but now are in politics say that he wasn't one of the hostage takers. The reason to believe them is because they are now progressives, and he is a fundy, so they have all the reason in the world to discredit him if they could. Plus in the video the man is much taller then he is in real live. If any of you took the time to watch a real news network like the bbc instead of cnn and other garbage networks you would know that.

 

[willyd]

The reason the british and americans did get rid of Iran's democracy was because Iran was nationalizing british Oil companies. That would piss us off if any country did that.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

He wasn't one of the captors, the people whe were one of the captors but now are in politics say that he wasn't one of the hostage takers. The reason to believe them is because they are now progressives, and he is a fundy, so they have all the reason in the world to discredit him if they could. Plus in the video the man is much taller then he is in real live. If any of you took the time to watch a real news network like the bbc instead of cnn and other garbage networks you would know that.

I barely watch TV, I posted based on what former hostages said (direct quotes)