Former judge warns of dictatorship

[Mr-Fusion]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/former-judge-warns-of-dictatorship/2006/03/13/1142098401305.html

"It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."

Just a heads up! Yes it's just the beginnings nothing may ever come of it. But it certainly doesn't hurt to reminded about these things every now and then.

"All that is required for EVIL to succeed is for good men to do nothing"

Evil is ever gnawing away at everything you/we/I/me/ have fought for, so be wary of it.


That is all for today.

 

[Razor]

I don't understand who she is speaking out against, Bush and his cronies. I also don't understand if she was for or against the courts decision to allow Terry Schiavone to die.

 

[$kelet0r]

I don't understand who she is speaking out against, Bush and his cronies. I also don't understand if she was for or against the courts decision to allow Terry Schiavone to die.

the latter is irrelevant - she was speaking out against the religiously influenced conservatives who threaten the american judiciary constantly when things dont go their way - like petulant children really

 

[kirovman]

the latter is irrelevant - she was speaking out against the religiously influenced conservatives who threaten the american judiciary constantly when things dont go their way - like petulant children really

The UK government's been acting that way with the ID card vote in the House of Lords thing.

 

[15357]

"All that is required for sucess, prosperity, safety, and security to grace our society, is by shutting up, doing nothing, and conforming."

Edit: That really is a real quote, btw.

 

[$kelet0r]

All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing

Check and mate.
Now king me :E

 

[CptStern]

hey wait a minute! where do I put the king again?


I've been saying this for awhile, the neo-cons are perverting the justice system for their own goals ..witness the recent abortion in south dekota ..not too mention proposed legislation in other states ..take georgia for example:

these are pending laws:

Abortion Bans Throughout Pregnancy

Anti-Choice License Plates

Attacks on Contraception

Biased Counseling and Mandatory Delay

Refusal to Provide Medical Services

Restrictions on Young Women's Access to Abortion

Restrictions on Young Women's Access to Family Planning

Separate Legal Status for Embryos and Fetuses

Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers (TRAP)


alabama:

Refusal to Provide Medical Services

Restrictions on Low-Income Women's Access to Family Planning

Restrictions on Medical Records Privacy

Separate Legal Status for Embryos and Fetuses

Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers (TRAP)


Arizona:

Anti-Choice Clinics

Insurance Prohibition for Abortion

Restrictions on Young Women's Access to Abortion

Restrictions on Young Women's Access to Family Planning

Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers (TRAP)


Iowa:

Abstinence-Only

Affiliation Ban

Counseling Ban/Gag Rule

Restrictions on Low-Income Women's Access to Abortion

Restrictions on Young Women's Access to Abortion

Separate Legal Status for Embryos and Fetuses


http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/cho...our_state/bill-tracker/state.html?state=IA#a0

 

[Mr-Fusion]

"All that is required for sucess, prosperity, safety, and security to grace our society, is by shutting up, doing nothing, and conforming.".

And thus dies art, music, freedom of the press, being able to walk down the street and shine my rear end at the man (ok i'd probably get arrested for that anyway) and overall freedom. You have the nations testicles placed in a gigantic vice that is given a big old squeeze. Eventually these testicles will explode from the pressure.

Shutting up, doing nothing...conforming. Oh dear. How that has inhibited mankinds growth for so long. We'd be hundreds of years more advanced scientfically if people in the dark ages didn't conform so blindly to the catholic churches primitive beliefs.

Conform all you want numbers boy!

 

[kirovman]

The anti-contraception drive thing in America is a ploy in order to increase the population of the US, so that they will have the manpower to fight off India and China.

True story - I read it on the back of a cereal box.

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

"All that is required for sucess, prosperity, safety, and security to grace our society, is by shutting up, doing nothing, and conforming."

Edit: That really is a real quote, btw.

Which maniac said that?

 

[gick]

You have the nations testicles placed in a gigantic vice that is given a big old squeeze. Eventually these testicles will explode from the pressure.

I wish you hadn't said that. ;(

 

[Razor]

The anti-contraception drive thing in America is a ploy in order to increase the population of the US, so that they will have the manpower to fight off India and China.

True story - I read it on the back of a cereal box.

Supposedly, the French were going through a population crisis years ago so what they did was put a load of porno movies on at 10pm on the terrestrial tv channels...9 months later, the French population's birthrate went up .

But i would have to agree with Stern, these people are bad people.

 

[15357]

And thus dies art, music, freedom of the press, being able to walk down the street and shine my rear end at the man (ok i'd probably get arrested for that anyway) and overall freedom. You have the nations testicles placed in a gigantic vice that is given a big old squeeze. Eventually these testicles will explode from the pressure.

Shutting up, doing nothing...conforming. Oh dear. How that has inhibited mankinds growth for so long. We'd be hundreds of years more advanced scientfically if people in the dark ages didn't conform so blindly to the catholic churches primitive beliefs.

Conform all you want numbers boy!

Art and music? Why? ok, cartoons that incite certain... feelings would be.... restricted. But nothing more.

Freedom of the press? The press's main concern is money, not bringing truth to the public as they pretend to.

I agree, religion is a societal evil.

Not, that I'm against democracy and liberty and whatnot but just pointing something out.

And Frenzy, I forgot.

 

[Razor]

Art and music? Why? ok, cartoons that incite certain... feelings would be.... restricted. But nothing more.

Freedom of the press? The press's main concern is money, not bringing truth to the public as they pretend to.

I agree, religion is a societal evil.

Not, that I'm against democracy and liberty and whatnot but just pointing something out.

And Frenzy, I forgot.

Definately agree, the press are there for the money and not for the truth...well, most of them are.

The best places to get news from is generally the BBC as they're a non-profit organisation.

 

[theotherguy]

Freedom of the press? The press's main concern is money, not bringing truth to the public as they pretend to.

I would recommend watching "good night and good luck" A good movie about the 50's communist witch hunt that has alot of parallels with today's issues.

would you prefer to be force fed complete lies by the government? Would you prefer that all opinions be squashed out and sent to jail just because some guy lucky enough to be in power doesnt agree with them? What if the opinions being squashed down are your own? Sure, a large number of people in the media don't care what they present and censor it anyway, but somehow or another there will always be someone printing, screaming, writing and shoving the truth in our faces...the people who really care.

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Art and music? Why? ok, cartoons that incite certain... feelings would be.... restricted. But nothing more.

Freedom of the press? The press's main concern is money, not bringing truth to the public as they pretend to.

I agree, religion is a societal evil.

Not, that I'm against democracy and liberty and whatnot but just pointing something out.

And Frenzy, I forgot.

Greenday would be burnt at the stake. A song named American idiot? My my, that would be way over the line under a dictatorship. So many great pieces of music would never be made.

"Halls of justice painted green, money talking?"

"Independence limited
Freedom of choice
Is made for you my friend
Freedom of speech
Is words that they will bend
Freedom with their exception"

Prophetic lyrics from metallica, that would be banned under a dictatorship.

Michael Moore documentaries would be banned and Moore imprisoned for treason.

I could go on and on. Anything that makes people question the power would be locked away to help society "shut up, do nothing and conform".

 

[15357]

Greenday would be burnt at the stake. A song named American idiot? My my, that would be way over the line under a dictatorship. So many great pieces of music would never be made.

"Halls of justice painted green, money talking?"

"Independence limited
Freedom of choice
Is made for you my friend
Freedom of speech
Is words that they will bend
Freedom with their exception"

Prophetic lyrics from metallica, that would be banned under a dictatorship.

Michael Moore documentaries would be banned and Moore imprisoned for treason. -AWESOMENESS!

I could go on and on. Anything that makes people question the power would be locked away to help society be "Safe, Secure, Stable, and Prosper".

edited.

 

[Razor]

Well, at the end of the day, Communist Russia and Capitalist America were the same things exactly, if you disagreed with the government, you were labelled a communist/capitalist and you'd be victimised by the general public as they'd be lead to be you're a bad person. Just like Jews in Nazi Germany and blacks in America.

 

[CptStern]

edited.

who determines what constitutes a Safe, Secure, Stable, and Prosperous nation? the government? and how do they insure that it will be Safe, Secure, Stable, and Prosperous ..by locking away people who didnt fit in to what they consider Safe, Secure, Stable, and Prosperous? how would minority rights be protected if you cant speak out against official government policy? ..it sounds like you're advocating a fascist dictatorship

 

[15357]

who determines what constitutes a Safe, Secure, Stable, and Prosperous nation? the government? and how do they insure that it will be Safe, Secure, Stable, and Prosperous ..by locking away people who didnt fit in to what they consider Safe, Secure, Stable, and Prosperous? how would minority rights be protected if you cant speak out against official government policy? ..it sounds like you're advocating a fascist dictatorship

Economy+
Political Stability through military might
National Security through military might
Safety through police.

Unity through Strength,
Strength through Collaboration.


Ok, i think i do need to revaluate my beliefs. Perhaps I am a fascist after all.

Damn you politics forum.

 

[CptStern]

Economy+
Political Stability through military might
National Security through military might
Safety through police.

Unity through Strength,
Strength through Collaboration.


Ok, i think i do need to revaluate my beliefs. Perhaps I am a fascist after all.

Damn you politics forum.

that all sounds like buzz words to stir up the masses with nationalism ..in practicality it doesnt work because it just turns into totalitarianism

 

[theotherguy]

Economy+
Political Stability through military might
National Security through military might
Safety through police.

Unity through Strength,
Strength through Collaboration.


Ok, i think i do need to revaluate my beliefs. Perhaps I am a fascist after all.

Damn you politics forum.

yep, that's facism alright, or at least what fascists tell their people. In reality its Economy+Political Stability through police repression and forced labor

National "Security" through balming scapegoats, exporting people who disagree, and making war on everything that moves. "Safety" through destruction of independent thought and violent and brutal police repression.

Unity through propaganda.
Strength through single-minded worship of the leader. Never mind if his actions are evil or against human rights.

 

[Lemonking]

you dont know what fascism is.