FOXnews reports what sweidsh media wont!

[h00dlum]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139614,00.html
(be sure to check out the video if you dont want to read)

Its always fun to read about your country from another countrys point of view. In this case the news is true but the swedish news would never report something like this. Things like this will be covered up imediatly.
When this segment was showed on the swedish news the anchormen made a huge deal afterwards trying to explain how nothing of this was true. The high unemployment of imigrants is a huge problem in sweden and cost billions every year but you never hear about it in the media.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Thats why letting them into countries is a bad idea, just causes trouble. Just cause they screwed up they're own country doesn't mean others want them doing the same. Like leeches they are.


Harsh but who cares

 

[MadHatter]

Thats why letting them into countries is a bad idea, just causes trouble. Just cause they screwed up they're own country doesn't mean others want them doing the same. Like leeches they are.


Harsh but who cares

I strongly agree with Dark Elf here. Sad thing is it's not just Sweden that's having the same problems. Perhaps Sweden is currently experiencing it more than other countries, but in all, this is really a European dilemma -- not just a Swedish dilemma. The UK, France, Germany, Italy, Eastern Europe and etc. are all experiencing heavy influxes of muslim immigrants. Europe's dilemmas with muslim immigration are the equivalent of the US's Mexican and South American immigration dilemmas.

You want to know the real fawked up part of all of this? Europe is getting to the point where it's TOO liberal. There's absolutely nothing wrong with liberal, however, there is such a thing as being TOO liberal just as there is being TOO conservative. The US is doing the same thing, too; both the US and Europe have taken this ultra-liberal stance for immigration issues. Both let anyone into their country(ies) -- regardless if they're illegal and whether or not they pose a threat -- and these people often refuse to blend in with society. They're Admitted extrance in swarming throngs that are often overwhelming. Some of them milk the country they're in for what it's worth and skip on out (well, that's what happens here in the states, not sure about Europe).

I hate sounding so xenophobic, discriminating and cruel. Though, I think of it in this way: At times, if you aren't discriminating and cruel, then you'll have nothing to be discriminating and cruel for.

Basically, this is a European matter. If Europe doesn't watch herself, she'll become a bunch of muslim states full of religious people. Also, here's something that'll raise a brow: In time, Europe might even be bred out -- and I do mean in that way. Haha, kind of scary, isn't it? The way things are in Europe right now, I have a bad feeling you're going to see more 'Swedens' in the future if things don't change.

 

[MadHatter]

I couldn't edit my post anymore.

Europeans aren't having children; European families are generally smaller than others. Muslims and arabs do not practice birth control. Thus is why I pointed something out above. So, my European friends, if you don't want things to change, then ya better start having children. :naughty: :smoking:

 

[MAx]

What's scary aint the slight possibility of muslims "breeding out Europe", it's the folks believing this propganda.

Seriously folks, fox news is INCREDIBLY propagandish...how can you think that the big bad muslims could "out breed" the western countries? That's just fear-breeding on it's highest level.

 

[The Dark Elf]

I couldn't edit my post anymore.

Europeans aren't having children; European families are generally smaller than others. Muslims and arabs do not practice birth control. Thus is why I pointed something out above. So, my European friends, if you don't want things to change, then ya better start having children. :naughty: :smoking:

Well with all the suicide bombers from those countries, can you imagine how quickly they'd all vanish off the face of the earth if they did practice birth control?


*sits flicking sparks into a barrel full of flammable liquid*

 

[Sprafa]

You can learn this on Swedish school, there's no need for FoxNews.

 

[MadHatter]

What's scary aint the slight possibility of muslims "breeding out Europe", it's the folks believing this propganda.

Seriously folks, fox news is INCREDIBLY propagandish...how can you think that the big bad muslims could "out breed" the western countries? That's just fear-breeding on it's highest level.

It's not propaganda. Europe's birthrates are shitty and I'd like to see you deny it. A country or people's future, success and development are extremely relative to their demographics and birthrates. It's a proven historical fact. The Romans are a solid example. Populaces that have healthier and abundant birthrates tend to 'gobble up' other populaces that are weaker. It's big fish, little fish. Sometimes the weaker and smaller populace isn't 'gobbled up' and things become rather segregated and tensions ensue. There are historical examples of this, too.

Expect to see a lot of racial, religious, etc., tensions in Europe in the future.

 

[Eg.]

the thing is, arabs are the fastest growing demographic in europe, and everywhere they go they cause trouble. there i said it. we had a foreign exchange student from france over last year, and it took a while, but we made her admit that most of the racism in france comes from mulsims. they move into a nation, and then deface the religious buildings/sites/monuments without regard. and since europe is "progressive" doing anything about it is seen as racist, thuis making the problem worse.

since europe wont do anything about the problem, roits and regiluos flare ups are always going to happen. example; that theo van go(sp?) guy, he made a movie about islam, and then got stabbed. now the netherlands have gotten serrioulsy pissed off and are actually doing something. last i heard they closed off their borders and prepared for deportations(a lot)

 

[MadHatter]

the thing is, arabs are the fastest growing demographic in europe, and everywhere they go they cause trouble. there i said it. we had a foreign exchange student from france over last year, and it took a while, but we made her admit that most of the racism in france comes from mulsims. they move into a nation, and then deface the religious buildings/sites/monuments without regard. and since europe is "progressive" doing anything about it is seen as racist, thuis making the problem worse.

since europe wont do anything about the problem, roits and regiluos flare ups are always going to happen. example; that theo van go(sp?) guy, he made a movie about islam, and then got stabbed. now the netherlands have gotten serrioulsy pissed off and are actually doing something. last i heard they closed off their borders and prepared for deportations(a lot)

I agree.

 

[CptStern]

this is exactly the sentiment that fueled Kristallnacht



racial hatred is on rise and this time it's arab against christian

 

[MadHatter]

Well with all the suicide bombers from those countries, can you imagine how quickly they'd all vanish off the face of the earth if they did practice birth control?


*sits flicking sparks into a barrel full of flammable liquid*

I just don't understand the suicide thing. I mean... I know why they do it, but I can't bring the same mentality to myself... Oh well, that must be a good thing!

 

[The Dark Elf]

I just don't understand the suicide thing. I mean... I know why they do it, but I can't bring the same mentality to myself... Oh well, that must be a good thing!

well it all comes down to religion doesn't it.. They blow themselves up in the name of God.. Personally I see it that they know what they are doing is wrong, and blowing themselves up is just an excuse to not get in trouble for it.

More do it the better really, don't need people who think like that on the planet, as others have said, they come along, cause riots and hatred then move onto the next country and do the same...


... wow that thread about HL2 being inspired by 9/11 is beginning to make sense - Muslims = Combine only without the cool hardware

 

[drolo]

this is exactly the sentiment that fueled Kristallnacht

racial hatred is on rise and this time it's arab against christian

It was the jews in '33 - '44
It's the muslims today !

Fanatism, radicalism is not a matter of religion, race or nationality !
You can see it everywhere, in all kinds of nations, religions and races:

You have christian, jewish and musim fundamentalists.
The first reside mainly in the US (also in Yurop)
The second reside mainly in the West Bank and jewish saddlements near te GAZA strip, but also in Yurop and the US
The third can be found everywhere in the world.

There are also those kinds of fundamantalists which serve to a higher goal : These are known as -Al Qeida- and their motives are not of religious nature and their matter is not to serve islam.

 

[Shad0hawK]

What's scary aint the slight possibility of muslims "breeding out Europe", it's the folks believing this propganda.

Seriously folks, fox news is INCREDIBLY propagandish...how can you think that the big bad muslims could "out breed" the western countries? That's just fear-breeding on it's highest level.

ROFL!

i see denial.

 

[Gray Fox]

Wow, that video is seriousely exagerating the situation, european country's just need better intergration laws, people need to do tests before beeing allowed to come in to a country and stay, they have to spread the immigrants around not let then all live in the same area,that doesn't help intergration, they need to learn more about moslims and there culture(atleast the politicoins), or else these kind of video's are going to be believed by people and interpeted the wrong way.
Now I live in rotterdam and 2/3 of the population here is foreign or has a foreign parant(s), and it's pretty fine here, not that many probelems, the most hate for these poeple and support for radical parties comes from folks of small towns in Netherlands, you can compare it to the terrorist dilemma in the US, the state of NY which has been the hardest hit by the terrorist and yet they voted for the democrats mostly, while the central US states voted for republicans mostly. But to say you the truth those the immigrants here in Rotterdam speak Dutch better than those Londsdale mother****ers.
I myself am from Bosnia, and I am also quit right wing on this issue, but this video is overreacting. I've been trough a war and I am so glad that this country accepted me and I don't mind addapting to Dutch culture, I see it as if someone lest you in to their house you have to respect them, like I said I am for stricter immigration laws i don't like people here who use the freedom of speech to spread the word of intolarence like some imams but also some native polititions, one reason why there is conflict with some muslims is simply because the uninployment rate is high and because a lot them who are second generation never been to their home countries and seen what kind of a effect radical islam or some other religion has on a country and they belief the radical imams. And because there are a lot of poeple from like the ivory coast that really have a good reason to immigrate, but they are beeing stopped while at the same time radicals can come in, i hate it when some immigrant here complains that Holland sucks, because I have to think of all the Bosnians than really wanted to come here because of the war but couldn't so I just want them to stfu, while the yare just economic immigrants( I do understand that this is prejudice but I can't help it, I've been trough some really bad shit and like the fact that I was allowed to live here and I certainly don't give in to it but try to listen to the other parties side)
For me not the murder of Theo van Gogh was a shock but the reaction to his movie, the fact that a lot of people where so shocked by mere superficial looks of it ( like in US where the rightwing is outraged by gaymarriage, but doesn't mind the killing of thousends of innocent people in Irak) anyway al ot of muslims didn't even try to discuss the message in it, which was a shame cause it made some good points, well maybe some moslims tried to discuss it but they were not heard, the media concantraded on the radicals.
The birth rate can be stoped by having some kind of economical punishment if you have more than two kids, and by doing what Ayaan Hirshi Ali wants( she is a hated muslim poilitician, but to me she is quit moderate, I don't understand why so many moslims hate her.) Oh yeah and people do need to realize that a lot of muslims were beeing suppresed in their believes in their country, where dictators were so beeing a little radical about their believes is normal and we should try to reach out to them,

Anyways the video is just panic spreading, although the muslim communities have a part to blame on themselves and their sterdiness and unwillingnes to adopt.

BTW if you wanna see the movie I was talking about that Theo( the guy that was murderd by an Islam extremist ) and Ayaan made, go here and cliclk on 200k, not 500 unless you have some stupid realplayer pass
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2655656?htv=12

 

[Eg.]

this is exactly the sentiment that fueled Kristallnacht



racial hatred is on rise and this time it's arab against christian

but the jews didnt do anything, and it is kristallnact, muslims are burning chirstian sites

 

[Gray Fox]

but the jews didnt do anything, and it is kristallnact, muslims are burning chirstian sites

He? What do you mean exactly, in that news report from FOX I only read/saw that a mosque was set a blaze, and that stones were beeing trown at the firemen, although they failed to clarify who trew the stones immigrants or the natives.

 

[Eg.]

the thing is hes saying the sentiment towards the arabs is like that of nazi germany to the jews, but the jews werent burnig down german churches or defacing religious sites as the arabs are today

 

[RRunner]

The avarage birth rate in sweden for caucasian is 1,5, so for every man and woman there is 1,5 kid, so the caucasians are minimizing themselfs by 0,5 pr generation. This is why they will be bred out, not because non caucasians breed more, but because caucasians breed less. And sweden needs more people, or else the Economy will grow worse, their will be no one to take care of the old etc etc. So in a way Sweden need immegrants and non Caucasians to fill up the human quota, or caucasians need to breed more kids. These are the only ways.

 

[Gray Fox]

The avarage birth rate in sweden for caucasian is 1,5, so for every man and woman there is 1,5 kid, so the caucasians are minimizing themselfs by 0,5 pr generation. This is why they will be bred out, not because non caucasians breed more, but because caucasians breed less. And sweden needs more people, or else the Economy will grow worse, their will be no one to take care of the old etc etc. So in a way Sweden need immegrants and non Caucasians to fill up the human quota, or caucasians need to breed more kids. These are the only ways.

The bwst would be 2 kids per man and woman, but just having more is useless, the aging problem in western countries where there are more and more old poeple and less newborn would only be postponed if they just bread more, and then later generations would have even more probelems than we now, just have to bare the burden for a little while, the immigrants only help if the yadapt to the culture of the country because they might as well die, just taking immigrants is also not a solution.

 

[MadHatter]

The avarage birth rate in sweden for caucasian is 1,5, so for every man and woman there is 1,5 kid, so the caucasians are minimizing themselfs by 0,5 pr generation. This is why they will be bred out, not because non caucasians breed more, but because caucasians breed less. And sweden needs more people, or else the Economy will grow worse, their will be no one to take care of the old etc etc. So in a way Sweden need immegrants and non Caucasians to fill up the human quota, or caucasians need to breed more kids. These are the only ways.

Yeah, that's my point. Don't know if I confused you or anyone else.... Sorry.

Thanks for summarizing what I was trying to say, though.

By the way, I hear muslims refuse to marry non muslims and the only way muslim men marry European women is if they convert the woman. Is this true? I'm not exposed to this like you fellow Europeans, so I thought I'd ask you how common it is.

 

[RRunner]

By the way, I hear muslims refuse to marry non muslims and the only way muslim men marry European women is if they convert the woman. Is this true? I'm not exposed to this like you fellow Europeans, so I thought I'd ask you how common it is.

This is true, as is true about jews, and the swedish curch etc. You have to be a member of the organization your are marrying into.

I think its a question of time, now young and old immegrants find it hard to get a jobb, mainly because the have difficulties with the language, second the intolerance. Now these 2 are linked, if you do not feel welcome, you will not have the motivation to adapt to the culture. Mistakes have been made when it comes to integrasion, poor communities have been sponsored by the government to take immegrants (making a 1 time money deal for accepting immegrants, then being held back because these people find it hard to get a jobb).
This creates ghettoes, ghettoes creates intolerance both ways. This also afflicts the money for schools. their by lowering the standard of learning, making the problem worse. Rich communities sees this, their by fighting to accept immegrants, creating larger ghettoes. This needs to be adressed, you have to take integration seriously, and just do it.
I dont mind a multicultured community, this prevents inbreeding mentaly and physicaly BMHO, The world is a multicolored place, a place of many different sexualities, religions, political views, and i dont mind being a part of that, nor have it surround me.

The only thing i would mind, is if my daughter brought home a boyfriend with his pants down by his knees, wearing a sock on his head, saying wazzup dad. Fack that shit would freak me out!

 

[drolo]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139614,00.html
(be sure to check out the video if you dont want to read)

Fox is not a source . You could also quote the german 'BILD - Zeitung' instead.

FOX is a propaganda machinery.

 

[The Monkey]

Yes, I live three kilometres away from "Rosengrad"(it's Rosengård) in Malmö. It is a big problem, yes. My grandparents live very near Rosengård and every night teenagers come to thier neighbourhood from Rosengård and mess around. Thank god they live on the 6th floor. No wonder there are so much racism in Sweden.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Fox is not a source . You could also quote the german 'BILD - Zeitung' instead.

FOX is a propaganda machinery.

that is one of the more ignorant statements i see on this board.

it is usually made by people who think cnn, bbc, abc, cbs etc. are actually "objective".

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

My god...


Alot of people here really hate muslims don't they eh...



Well some of the nicest human beings I have known are muslim so please try not to generalise to the degree of being allmost racist. Its kind of depressing.


The more we as a society are prejudice against muslims the more they will hate us. People just don't seem to understand that there are good and bad people all arround the world.


Bah... Racism makes me mad. Dont make me mad please... I'm stressed enough as it is.

 

[Gray Fox]

Yeah, that's my point. Don't know if I confused you or anyone else.... Sorry.

Thanks for summarizing what I was trying to say, though.

By the way, I hear muslims refuse to marry non muslims and the only way muslim men marry European women is if they convert the woman. Is this true? I'm not exposed to this like you fellow Europeans, so I thought I'd ask you how common it is.

That depends on how religiouse the muslim is, there are more then enough moslims here that merry Dutch woman and don't convert them, as far as I know you only need to be converted to marry in a Mosque( maybe not, I'm sorry I don't know for sure if there can be a merriage in a mosque but I think all you get my point), but most of them merry in city hall, it's only moslims who don't want to marrry someone out of their religion, but the same go's for jews and christians like RRunner said, fortunatly most poeple don't mind the religion of their spouse.

Oh yeah and I apologize if I seemed intolerant or prejudice in my posts towards muslims, soem of my best friends are muslims to

 

[CptStern]

that is one of the more ignorant statements i see on this board.

it is usually made by people who think cnn, bbc, abc, cbs etc. are actually "objective".

really? compare these 2 headlines from the same day (Thursday, April 3, 2003) :

foxnews: Report: Lynch Was Shot, Stabbed in Fierce Struggle With Iraqi Captors


now compare it an article on the CNN website from that same day:


Rescued POW has first surgery No evidence of gunshot or stab wounds found


how is fox"news" headline not propaganda? was lynch "shot" and "stabbed"? at this point there was no evidence that she was, actually german doctors who first saw her reported saying she appeared to have sustained her injuries in a vehicle accident

 

[OCybrManO]

Yeah, when they make a stupid mistake like that they make it seem like nothing and move on... sometimes without even admitting the error. Now, if another news channel makes a similarly stupid mistake they publicly retract their statements and/or remove the people that made them... but the people on FOX bitch about it and try to brew it into a full-grade "scandal" to ruin the other network's reputation in the hope that the people that fall for it will turn to FOX for news instead.

The ways in which the media, corporations, and the government are in bed with each other goes far deeper than FOX. Both of the major parties are involved. FOX is just the most obvious example of what is gradually happening to the media as a whole. Whether they are leading this change or just ahead of the curve is beyond my knowledge... but it's bad either way. It's going to take a lot of support from the people to change where our country is headed (and has been for quite some time)... so, basically, we're ****ed. I really hate to say it, but, the more I look around the more I see how a group like the Nazi Party could take over a country. Once the government controls the media... the government controls the people and not the other way around, as it was intended.

 

[MAx]

ROFL!

i see denial.

And I see silly abbreviations, and no backing up for your (also) silly assertion.


I checked some of your posts lately, and weird as it may be, you had the abbreviation "rofl" in atleast 75% of them.


But, back to the topic at hand, how am I in denial?

And please...no "rofl you're such a left wing radicalist ROFL!!!"

 

[Scotchy]

Modern fundamentalist and extremist islamic cluture are the problem, not all arabs or all muslims. It's a matter of human rights for the fundamentalists (circumcision of women for example) that people like Theo Van Gough were speakign out against and lookig to change. And we all know the point of the extremists; the end of all other religions and non religions by death or conversion.

Of course it's wrong to generalize about a whole group of people (Like fundametalist muslims or christians... I know a number of fundamentalist chritians who dont go about any form of opression... and im relatively sure that fundamentalist islam has similar people), but when a certain demographic share a trait in a majority of cases, it's worthy of attention.

Now I'm getting all gibbered up here... but my basic idea was this:

Al-Qaeda is a cult. Living leader (Osama beleives himself to be a prophet, though the quaran plainly states than Mohammed was the last prohpet and there will be no more), demands sacrifices with rewards in the afterlife (suicide bombers are told that killing infidels guarantees them 70 virgins in the afterlife... not a very good deal for the islamic women or gay terrorists I think).

Just thought I would assert that, since no news agency or commentator (even a FOX guy) has yet to put those facts together with the requirements of a cult and come to that conclusion.

 

[m00b]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139614,00.html
(be sure to check out the video if you dont want to read)

Its always fun to read about your country from another countrys point of view. In this case the news is true but the swedish news would never report something like this. Things like this will be covered up imediatly.
When this segment was showed on the swedish news the anchormen made a huge deal afterwards trying to explain how nothing of this was true. The high unemployment of imigrants is a huge problem in sweden and cost billions every year but you never hear about it in the media.

Ahhhem... Actually I live in Malmo.
Swedish media does report about these things very often.
But Fox interprets the news to serve its own anti-muslim agenda.
Sure there are immigrants but far from all are muslim and most of them (~80%) have jobs.
The school they are reffering to is in a part of the city that poor ppl live in, and of course you wont see rich swedes live there will you?

And give me a break. We all know that Foxnews is a radical far right propaganda tv. Something in style of "gestapo tv". Fox hate everyting liberal (human rights, freedom) so since Sweden is very humanitarian country they hate it.

If you arent a right wing lunatic i suggest not to watch it and get your brain washed.
There is no "sudden influx of Muslim immigrants". Whatta idiots these ppl are.

 

[MadHatter]

Ahhhem... Actually I live in Malmo.
Swedish media does report about these things very often.
But Fox interprets the news to serve its own anti-muslim agenda.
Sure there are immigrants but far from all are muslim and most of them (~80%) have jobs.
The school they are reffering to is in a part of the city that poor ppl live in, and of course you wont see rich swedes live there will you?

And give me a break. We all know that Foxnews is a radical far right propaganda tv. Something in style of "gestapo tv". Fox hate everyting liberal (human rights, freedom) so since Sweden is very humanitarian country they hate it.

If you arent a right wing lunatic i suggest not to watch it and get your brain washed.
There is no "sudden influx of Muslim immigrants". Whatta idiots these ppl are.

Holy, half-digested testicles, this post is speckled with irony and lack of sense.

 

[CptStern]

Holy, half-digested testicles, this post is speckled with irony and lack of sense.

you really should stop with the ball-munching, it'll give you indigestion

 

[MadHatter]

you really should stop with the ball-munching, it'll give you indigestion

Yeah, and don't make me spit them up into your cereal and castrate you with your own plastic spoon. That's all I would need, right, is a plastic spoon?

 

[CptStern]

ballmuncher :E

 

[MadHatter]

ballmuncher :E

Awww, don't be jealous 'cause I have a pair(s). :imu:

 

[CptStern]

wow is that what passes for witty repartee these days? I guess even the sloping brow set has their day in the sun

 

[MadHatter]

As if you're one to talk.