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Hello, Another useless thread from me :p
Im curious does anyone here believe in ghost, like paranormal stuff, orbs in photos, and etc. I think its pretty fascinating topic, and I review some of my old pics I find orbS but thats about it. When I was younger I used to wakeup and see skeletons hanging on the wall crucifix form very wierd stuff, spiders crawling up and down the wall. Really wierd things, at this point in my life im really undecided wether I believe them or not, sometimes when Im home alone I feel like somethings watching for me something just wanting me to come "discover" itself... I dont want to seem like an idiot to believe something that hasnt been proven to exist but look at religion but w/e
I was surfing the web came upon this video:
http://www.bartonmansion.com/res_hi_best.html

yadda yad iI know dont believe everything you see or read on the net but it scared me really the first time I saw it could be fake all I know.. anyone have a ghost storie? Something wierd happy beyond possible
 
Im kinda undecided on this topic but I generally lean twords the don't belive group.
 
I don't believe in it without hard evidence. Without evidence I see no reason to.
 
Nah. It's kind of exciting to believe thats real, but I really don't think it is. I'm sure we all have our weird spooky stories, but fear does alot of weird things to people. Seeing things for a split second or hearing things faintly can be a bi-product of fear.
 
i dont believe its a question of belief, it seems by the number of events we record, paranormal goings on are an intrinsic part of the universe, but remember their only paranormal to us,, this world existed way before we gazed eyes upon it, in the way we do. Put it this way, if the universe is thought of as a concious entity , then it knows its own ways, and therefore knows the truth of what it is, any external observation is limited, by the senses in our case, so what we believe is irrelevant ,but that doesnt exclude us from finding the truth.

but I have had a few strange experiances myself, dont want to natter though. :)
 
gh0st said:
arent i evidence enough?

I beileve in you, yet I've never seen you before so Im not sure!

I beileve in UFOs as I think I've seen one before, and also the universe is to big for just us to be the only ones in it.
 
I've not seen a single shred of evidence that would make me think ghosts exist. I've seen lots of TV shows trying to prove the existence of ghosts. I've looked at pictures of "ghosts" online. I've read about people's experiences with the paranormal.

There's about as much evidence for them as there is for Nessie or Bigfoot.
 
OCybrManO said:
I've not seen a single shred of evidence that would make me think ghosts exist. I've seen lots of TV shows trying to prove the existence of ghosts. I've looked at pictures of "ghosts" online. I've read about people's experiences with the paranormal.

There's about as much evidence for them as there is for Nessie or Bigfoot.

wrong, look up the Enfield case, and check out a TV Series called Most Haunted, also Discovery Civilisation has many programs on hundreds of incidents, and these are only the televised ones.,

Nessie is in Loch Ness only,.. these events are recorded on a global scale
 
being as its almost 1am im not going to watch the video lol. And do i believe in ghosts? not sure. But i definatly believe in aliens taht have and continue to visit/watch earth and us humans.
 
clarky003 said:
wrong, look up the Enfield case, and check out a TV Series called Most Haunted, also Discovery Civilisation has many programs on hundreds of incidents, and these are only the televised ones.,

Nessie is in Loch Ness only,.. these events are recorded on a global scale
Wrong? Those are the things I was talking about.

There is supposed to be an equivalent of Nessie in Lake Champlain that the locals call "Champ" and I've heard of another one somewhere else... and Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman of the Himalayas, Mapinguari, Sasquatch, Yowie, and Yeti (different names for the same nonexistent creature) sightings are hardly localized incidents either.

Things like ghosts, alien abductions, crop circles, mythical creatures, and the like are all reported on a global scale... but does it make them more believable? No.

I don't have a problem with UFOs. I mean, considering the size of the universe it's definately not impossible for alien life forms to exist somewhere out there... but I don't see what they are trying to learn from abducting rednecks. That is, unless they want to find our weaknesses. :O
 
I guess most people know the stuff I do and my beliefs.

I think "ghosts" is a bad word to describe otherwordly entities, people just associate fear with ghosts.

Oh, and I'm positive that video is fake. I don't like people trying to "prove" stuff like this with videos and faking all kinds of stuff just to have enough material for a 1 hour show. :|
 
Dunno, never seen a ghost, I don't see any reason to form an opinion on the matter :)
 
CrazyHarij said:
Oh, and I'm positive that video is fake. I don't like people trying to "prove" stuff like this with videos and faking all kinds of stuff just to have enough material for a 1 hour show. :|

Don't diss, I went without sleep the first time I saw one of those shows (the ones with the re-enactments of true stories) ;(
 
Bad^Hat said:
Don't diss, I went without sleep the first time I saw one of those shows (the ones with the re-enactments of true stories) ;(

Turn off the volume the next time, the music adds alot of that "spooky" atmosphere they want to convey.
 
OCybrManO said:
I don't have a problem with UFOs. I mean, considering the size of the universe it's definately not impossible for alien life forms to exist somewhere out there...

Actually, it's quite impossible that there is NO intelligent lifeform on other planets. By intelligent I mean creatures/weird things that have self-considence (sp?) and understands/uses technology in some way.
 
hmm well I believe in ghosts

Had a dream about one last night, not going into it though, scared the crap out of me lol
 
Oh look, more poor-quality images of ghosts. They had an excuse for keeping the video resolution down, but the lack of any high-res stills puts it in the hoax area.
 
The Dark Elf said:
hmm well I believe in ghosts

Had a dream about one last night, not going into it though, scared the crap out of me lol
thats funny, I always imagined ghosts and demons and such having nightmares about you :P
 
if you watch and lisen to those peoples reactions they seem genuinely suprised and frightened. The reaction of the camera man, rather than staying to film what is captured , turns away to run, the lantern the dude opening the door is holding vanishes as his arm moves forward. I guess the proof of the pudding would be to take the accounts of everyone who witnessed it.

But they do genuinely seem like their all brown panting themselves
 
but then the guys who always do these Gost documentary things seem so full of shit and into it, they are half lying to themselves.

Anyways ghost theories just annoy me, mental tricks for the most part, or hoaxes.
 
Rupertvdb said:
but then the guys who always do these Gost documentary things seem so full of shit and into it, they are half lying to themselves.

Anyways ghost theories just annoy me, mental tricks for the most part, or hoaxes.

poor rupert, if only youd experianced what I have,

mentioned it before I think, but to cut a longish story short,

on holiday in somerset, parents went out to do shoppin :P.

me and my bro where playing comp games in the lounge area at around 9:30 pm, when we both hear someone walk across the upstairs landing, talking about it always sends the hairs on the back of my kneck up :laugh: , but no one else was in the house bar me and my bro, we checked!. those orb like objects showed up on digital photo's aswell. throughout the holiday.
 
LOL, that video is not very belivable. I don't belive in Ghosts, by the way.
 
here in my country are a lot of people believe in gosht

but I will believe definitive when I see something reall whit my owns eyes
 
OCybrManO said:
There is supposed to be an equivalent of Nessie in Lake Champlain that the locals call "Champ" and I've heard of another one somewhere else...
One of my friend lives right next to Lake Champlain and claims to have seen it. When he first started talking about it I nearly burst out laughing because I thought he was joking then he told me he was serious.
 
outpost233 said:
One of my friend lives right next to Lake Champlain and claims to have seen it. When he first started talking about it I nearly burst out laughing because I thought he was joking then he told me he was serious.

will be cool live close to a place like that and see a strange thing everiday
and think about the fact to find a creatures of millions of year of the past

another questiong: do someone has send a camera to the lake ness?
 
This thread isnt meant for bashing just because you believe or you dont believe... To me the video seems somewhat legit then somewhat fake, they have it on dvd to you can order and theyll send it to you then you send them the money, not really a profit type thing. just more of a proof.
My house is 50 years old and sometimes Ill look in the hallway and swear I see something there but it just like the remnants of whatever it was . Sometimes ill be sitting here late at night an I'll get a really bad chill that seems to walk right through me. When I was younger I used to really think my house was haunted, I used to wakeup in the middle of the night see all kinds of wierd things happening around my room... I slept with my parents alot. Thats all for now :(
 
haha, I believe I had two contacts with ghosts, may sound crazy, but i really believe i did.
 
clarky003 said:
poor rupert, if only youd experianced what I have,

mentioned it before I think, but to cut a longish story short,

on holiday in somerset, parents went out to do shoppin :P.

me and my bro where playing comp games in the lounge area at around 9:30 pm, when we both hear someone walk across the upstairs landing, talking about it always sends the hairs on the back of my kneck up :laugh: , but no one else was in the house bar me and my bro, we checked!. those orb like objects showed up on digital photo's aswell. throughout the holiday.

That's a little bit weird but i still can't bring myself to believe that kind of thing, i am not questioning your sincerity it's just i cannot get over the sheer irrationality of it all, it isn't that i love reason and don't believe in anything i cannot see or touch, it is simply a case of me thinking that there is a lot of weird junk always occuring and focusing on any particular point and calling it a Ghost just strikes me as foolish, investigate the thing don't simply push some hack into the limelight claiming they have 'discovered' a ghost.
 
LOL The 'ghost' in the video looks just like some berk covered in a sheet.
 
Rupertvdb said:
That's a little bit weird but i still can't bring myself to believe that kind of thing, i am not questioning your sincerity it's just i cannot get over the sheer irrationality of it all, it isn't that i love reason and don't believe in anything i cannot see or touch, it is simply a case of me thinking that there is a lot of weird junk always occuring and focusing on any particular point and calling it a Ghost just strikes me as foolish, investigate the thing don't simply push some hack into the limelight claiming they have 'discovered' a ghost.

ah you dont fully understand the laws that govern our physically manifested universe. , first of all, work this into your clockwork,(essentially everything is energy) everything and anything you visually perceive is being constantly manifested from beyond the subatomic.

if you read a few quantum mechanical books, everything fits into place, its to do with New science, and the 'perpetual motion of the Electron, and perpetual manifestation of the surrounding universe. It derives its energy from the Zero Point domain, ... read about it, you may beable to work out the incomprehension.

New Scientists are slowley realising everthing really is an illusion, as we are only subject to our senses, which limit our superficial view of the universe. Where infact its the missing ingrediant of the unmanifested energy forms in the Zero point domain that are the missing link to the puzzle, of Electro Gravetics, and the relationship's between Gravity and Magnetisim,

Also will further our understand of Gravity , as rather than something that is created by the density of matter on a large scale comparable to us, but as a spacial curve, or fluctuation in the Vaccum of the Zero point energy domain, caused by the maifestation of collective amounts of atoms. and subatomic
particles

if you understand any of that, then your on your way,
 
that video is very fakeish looking. The "ghost" looks like a guy wearing a sheet. I have read about "zero point" energe and it looks interesting to say the least, but i dont understand it much.
 
CyberSh33p said:
only if its a movie with patrick swayze and demi moore :P

/me sucks Swayze into his Proton gun

That'll be $27.50 :cool:
 
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