God vs. Bush?

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I thought this was pretty funny... :)
 
stop to appreciate it.
this is going to anger the republicans, the religious, and the religious republicans ;)
 
Well I e-mailed God about this a few minutes ago but i havn't gotten a reply back yet.

If that's the case then the repulicans are gonna hafta start spending a lot more money catoring to the religion people :-O!
 
Thats really funny
And pretty messed up
Someone here should
Find out if thats true

If its really true
Thatd be freaky
 
God and Bush are on the same sides. Haven't you seen those conferences? He's always talking to God about how stem cell research, birth control, and gay marriages are wrong. He KNOWS what God wants for this country.
 
God and Bush are on the same sides. Haven't you seen those conferences? He's always talking to God about how stem cell research, birth control, and gay marriages are wrong. He KNOWS what God wants for this country.
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and how now the republican convention says that "jesus is the official spokesperson of the republican party"

(or some prominent republican i think)

Hell we don't need seperation of church in state... phh what a old archaic law that as and has no useful purpose in today's "free" religion society :rolling:
 
If that's the path of the eye then they endured less brunt force of the hurricane than those around them (besides enterring and exitting) ;]. Maybe THAT is a sign ;].
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
If that's the path of the eye then they endured less brunt force of the hurricane than those around them (besides enterring and exitting) ;]. Maybe THAT is a sign ;].
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besides entering and exiting...

and still you can interpret it as a sign since florida ended up being the decisive winner for bush in the end, and god is seeking revenge on those damn old people :p
 
I live in Florida and I gotta say getting hit by 4 hurricanes really sucks.
 
Ikerous said:
Democrats get the hippie vote.
You're thinking of rednecks
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I'm a redneck and I didn't vote for Bush.... :frown:
 
aeroripper said:
Well I e-mailed God about this a few minutes ago but i havn't gotten a reply back yet.
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Yeah, that's how it was when I e-mailed Gabe.
 
I'd just like to point out one thing.... no where in the constitution does it say anyhtign about a seperation of church and state.
 
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
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The first amendment.
 
SidewinderX said:
I'd just like to point out one thing.... no where in the constitution does it say anyhtign about a seperation of church and state.
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Um.....what?

The first amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
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What rock have you been living under? :p
 
Neutrino said:
Um.....what? :LOL:

The first amendment.
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I don't see where it says that there must be a separation of church and state...please correct me if I'm wrong tho.
 
Tr0n said:
I don't where it says that there must be a separation of church and state...please correct me if I'm wrong tho.
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To paraphrase it basically says that no law shall be made concerning religion.

How exactly is that not a seperation of church and state?
 
Neutrino said:
To paraphrase it basically says that no law shall be made concerning religion.

How exactly is that not a seperation of church and state?
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Damn our fore fathers for making the constitution confusing!!! :p
 
Jmechy said:
The first amendment.
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
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I still don't see where it says that the government and a curch must be seperate. It says that all American's have the right to practice whatever religion they wish, and that the Government cannot pass a law that deals with a religion, such as banning it or forcing certian rules on it.

It does not say that the Government cannot be related in some way to a church.



(keep in mind that i'm just playing devil's advocate... I'm jewish and stongly opposed "church & state" )
 
The government consists of many members of churches. There is nothing wrong with that as long as they leave their religious agenda at the door and remain considerate of people of other religions and atheists. The problem arises when some politicians try to make their religious beliefs into laws (like Bush). That violates the first amendment. The "state" in "separation of church and state" means the laws of the state... not the politicians that make up the state.

Also, they don't want churches to officially endorse a specific candidate/bill... because many people blindly follow the will of the church. The people must exercise their own free will. Otherwise, church officials would have too much political power (it would be equivalent to allowing them to vote a few hundred times). It is also illegal to use church money to help a candidate either by donations or by funding favorable ads. It still happens, but it's not supposed to.
 
OCybrManO said:
The government consists of many members of churches. There is nothing wrong with that as long as they leave their religious agenda at the door and remain considerate of people of other religions and atheists. The problem arises when some politicians try to make their religious beliefs into laws (like Bush). That violates the first amendment. The "state" in "separation of church and state" means the laws of the state... not the politicians that make up the state.

Also, they don't want churches to officially endorse a specific candidate/bill... because many people blindly follow the will of the church. The people must exercise their own free will. Otherwise, church officials would have too much political power (it would be equivalent to allowing them to vote a few hundred times). It is also illegal to use church money to help a candidate either by donations or by funding favorable ads. It still happens, but it's not supposed to.
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And how many laws do we have that were first influenced by some kind of religious belief?
 
Yakuza said:
And how many laws do we have that were first influenced by some kind of religious belief?
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every morally-related law in existence.
 
SidewinderX said:
every morally-related law in existence.
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Some or all of them may very well have been influenced by religion, but there are many non-religious moral arguments and theories that can also be used to create or support those laws. Basically I'm saying that though they were probably influenced by religion, I do not think they should have been as there are better ways to justify them in my mind.

Just the general basis of democracy that all people are equal is reason enough for the creation of most of those laws.
 
SidewinderX said:
every morally-related law in existence.
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I don't think you need to be religious to live by a code of morals and ethics.
 
Exactly what "laws" did Bush try to put through about forcing religion? The executive branch doesn't even pass laws- congress does.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Exactly what "laws" did Bush try to put through about forcing religion? The executive branch doesn't even pass laws- congress does.
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Well, from his statements Bush has pretty much admited to basing some decisions on religious principles, something I think no president should do.

But to name something specific, he's in support of the amendment for the ban on gay marriage and has been pushing for it to be passed.

To me that is a clear case of violating the 1st amendment and the seperation of church and state.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Exactly what "laws" did Bush try to put through about forcing religion? The executive branch doesn't even pass laws- congress does.
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yes, the executive branch doesn't pass amendments, no said they did.

The exutive can publicly voice his support for a bill or proposed amemdment, such as the gay marrige ban.
 
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